Speaking of threadlocking.

[Holmes]

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no shi!t!

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Being the son of a Neo-Nazi will do wonders for one\'s agenda.


Holmes

[franki]

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Being the son of a Neo-Nazi will do wonders for

one\'s agenda.




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I didn\'t know that. I thought he was

just a hardcore catholic. They used to be pretty anti-semitic as well in the past..

[Kari]

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no shi!t!

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Being the son of

a Neo-Nazi will do wonders for one\'s agenda.


Holmes

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You

know.. I\'m not sure he THINKS his dad is neo-nazi.

[Holmes]

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I go to films for escape.

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Then this might be a film you\'ll want to escape

from.


Holmes

[bjf]

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Is he actually against jews like the nazis were or

did he try to make a film which has a strong relation with how he was raised ?

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Good question. What if his father what if his father took is beliefs beyond the religio and

more geered toward extremism?

What do you answer then?

Sometimes religion is open to interpretation, like how

there are extremists in the Muslim faith that are into jihad.

However, other Muslims interpret thing very

differently.

[Kari]

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Being the son of a Neo-Nazi will do wonders for one\'s agenda.






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I didn\'t know that. I thought he was just a hardcore catholic.

They used to be pretty anti-semitic as well in the past..

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His dad

says the Jewish Holocaust was exaggerated greatly. And, that the Jews and the Masons are conspiring to control the

world. Which is weird, since for a long time te Jews couldn\'t join the Masons.

[CJ01]

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And, that the Jews and the Masons are conspiring to

control the world.

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idiots conspired to rule the world.
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[Kari]

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And, that the Jews and the Masons are conspiring to control the world.



<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\"> I always had the impression that psychopaths and idiots conspired to

rule the world.
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No, they\'re (the psychopaths and idiots) the ones that WON.

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[bjf]

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Being the

son of a Neo-Nazi will do wonders for one\'s agenda.




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I

didn\'t know that. I thought he was just a hardcore catholic. They used to be pretty anti-semitic as well in the

past..

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His dad says the Jewish Holocaust was exaggerated greatly.

And, that the Jews and the Masons are conspiring to control the world. Which is weird, since for a long time te Jews

couldn\'t join the Masons.

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Yes, it takes someone special to

pull out of a situation like that. Children are taught to believe that there parents are right.

The same goes

for choosing your religion, political views, etc.

Many people end up mimicing their parent belief because that is

what is right\", and if you can step back, take a look at all the options with an open mind, then you can truely

say your beliefs are your own.

Problem is, it is difficult for people to have an open mind when their beliefs

have been shaped.

[Kari]

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Being the son of a Neo-Nazi will do wonders

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I didn\'t know that. I thought he

was just a hardcore catholic. They used to be pretty anti-semitic as well in the past..

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His dad says the Jewish Holocaust was exaggerated greatly. And, that the

Jews and the Masons are conspiring to control the world. Which is weird, since for a long time te Jews couldn\'t

join the Masons.

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Yes, it takes someone special to pull out of a

situation like that. Children are taught to believe that there parents are right.

The same goes for choosing

your religion, political views, etc.

Many people end up mimicing their parent belief because that is what is

right\", and if you can step back, take a look at all the options with an open mind, then you can truely say your

beliefs are your own.

Problem is, it is difficult for people to have an open mind when their beliefs have been

shaped.


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Sorry.. I was raised by a southern-Baptist-fundie,

quasi-nazi. No sympathy, here.

[Rakesh]

Well

without antisemitism we can\'t deny that 1)ethnical jews do tend to be nasaly challenged 2)historical romans were

of the blonde blue eyed sort (those genes dissapeared over time though, as fair haired genes always

do).
Furthermore, the bad hygiene thing isn\'t so far from truth either. Unlike the rest of the world, the romans

actually had a bath once in a while. It\'s not just the jews, everywhere outside the empire was a bit...rugged.

[Elana]

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Well without antisemitism we can\'t deny that

1)ethnical jews do tend to be nasaly challenged 2)historical romans were of the blonde blue eyed sort (those genes

dissapeared over time though, as fair haired genes always do).
Furthermore, the bad hygiene thing isn\'t so far

from truth either. Unlike the rest of the world, the romans actually had a bath once in a while. It\'s not just

the jews, everywhere outside the empire was a bit...rugged.

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This

clean, fair skinned, blonde haired, blue eyed, small nosed Jew begs to differ.

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Adgenda....not accuracy

[CJ01]

It´s because

of such bizarre notions and hatred feelings that hatred keeps going. It´s taught and passed on from one generation

to the next, so how can it end? It´s just not healthy.
A parent who does this to his child ain´t doing them a

favour but is it the parents fault, or the previous one in Mels case?Another aspect to speculate about.

[franki]

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Well without antisemitism we can\'t deny that

1)ethnical jews do tend to be nasaly challenged 2)historical romans were of the blonde blue eyed sort (those genes

dissapeared over time though, as fair haired genes always do).


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blahh, what a bunch of %%%%

[Elana]

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Well without antisemitism we can\'t deny that

1)ethnical jews do tend to be nasaly challenged 2)historical romans were of the blonde blue eyed sort (those genes

dissapeared over time though, as fair haired genes always do).
Furthermore, the bad hygiene thing isn\'t so far

from truth either. Unlike the rest of the world, the romans actually had a bath once in a while. It\'s not just

the jews, everywhere outside the empire was a bit...rugged.

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If

you know anything about the Jewish religion, you will know that cleanliness is intertwined with many traditions.

Think Kosher...think Mikvahs.....Jews were not any less clean than the Roman\'s. That is ridiculous. Who told you

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[CJ01]

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Unlike the rest of the world, the romans actually

had a bath once in a while.

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value hygene very highly

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Has anyone seen Mels new movie The Passion of Christ?

I wouldn\'t mind

going but I hate movies with subtitles.

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Not going. Too much

diversion from both history AND the Bible. Much more violent than the gospels would indicate (I have read the Bible,

but am not a believer, BTW). Too anti-Jewish (the Romans did it, and Pilate was a nasty, not a reluctant nice).



Most of all, I\'m not gonna pay that little actor to proslityze me (spelling?).

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I will see it. I am curious to see how accurate it is. As being violent; Roman crucifiction

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[OCP]

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And because of that it will only contribute to the

myths....I\'ve had to endure sh!t from christians who didn\'t have the story straight because of those myths.

Portraying events falsely in a movie that millions will see is a huge diservice.

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Which myths are speaking of? I agree that the \"church\" has created alot of myths about

Jesus over the centuries, but I am curious which ones made it into the movie.

[Holmes]

The actual

crucifiction wasn\'t even the half of it.


Holmes

[OCP]

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Unfortunately it has already flared up quite a bit

of hate. One Baptist church put up a huge sign that read \"The Jews killed our Lord.\" There have been several

incidences already of blatant anti-Semitism.

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That is just plain

sad.

[Rakesh]

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blahh, what a bunch of %%%%

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Not really. I have history, you have only feelings.

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blahh, what a bunch of %%%%

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Not really. I have history, you have only feelings.

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You have

history? Please provide some links or sources.

[Rakesh]

Umm do you

really need scientific proof that the Jews tend to have significant noses?
And the other half about romans

originally being fair haired, that is also a known thing.
Does it mean anything about anybody\'s superiority or

inferiority? No. I don\'t know which part of this appeared as \"%%%%%\" to Franki.

[CJ01]

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2)historical romans were of the blonde blue eyed

sort (those genes dissapeared over time though, as fair haired genes always do).


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class=\"post\"> okay but where´s some proof? I want to know about this, for evolutionary reasons, not religious

mind [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] And don´t tell me that you got your info from the movies

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[OCP]

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Unfortunately it has already flared up quite a bit of hate. One Baptist

church put up a huge sign that read \"The Jews killed our Lord.\" There have been several incidences already of

blatant anti-Semitism. On a brighter note, many Jewish and Christian groups have got together to discuss the issue

and bring the truth to the table.

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Elana\'s right. BTW-- the

baptist church\'s own congregants made the church take the sign down. NUMEROUS reviewers are pointing out the

anti-Jewish content AND the historical distortion that blames the Jews.
(A couple of reveiwers also noted that the

\"Jews\" in the movie mostly seemed to have hooked noses and crooked teeth, while the \"Romans\" were more

attractive and hygienic). We\'re getting into Renaissance Shylock stereotypes, here. YIKES!

I think that will

bite Mel in the butt, in very short order.


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My wife is Jewish

and she is seeing it today. I am very interested to hear her comments and see her reaction.

[Elana]

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Umm do you really need scientific proof that the

Jews tend to have significant noses?

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I am Jewish. I don\'t

have a big nose. Neither does anyone in my family. Did the Roman\'s have smaller noses then Jews?

[CJ01]

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Umm do you really need scientific proof that the

Jews tend to have significant noses?

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\"> that is bollocks

[franki]

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No. I don\'t know which part of this appeared as

\"%%%%%\" to Franki.

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All of it. You have been saying the same

old crap people have repeated for ages. There might be a bit of truth in it, but it is just really OLD.

[Elana]

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Umm do you really need scientific proof that the Jews tend to have

significant noses?

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Yeah...it\'s pretty sad [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

[OCP]

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[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] Yes and no. On an aesthetic level, unbelievable.

However, the

perspective was pretty f*cked up. Pinning it all on the Jews (and thus exonerating the Romans) didn\'t sit too

well. At all.


Holmes

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True true, after all Pilate could have

stopped it and it was the Romans who actually did the crucifiction.