Amendment Banning Gay Marriage?!?!?!

[CJ01]

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What does it say about the voters when someone who

is pregidous and who sexually assaults women is elected?


<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\"> I don´t

like men who assault women but in his `defence´ he ain´t the only one that´s for sure

[Kari]

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What does it say about the voters when someone who is pregidous and who

sexually assaults women is elected?

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It says that they\'re

star-struck airheads. Among other things.


Holmes

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Well, he

only sexually assaults women who he thinks can\'t fight back. NOT the A-list actresses. He assaults waitresses and

make-up and script girls, and starlets. Some A-listers-- like Candy Bergman-- campaigned hard against him.

[Kari]

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What does it say about the voters when someone who is pregidous and who

sexually assaults women is elected?


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women but in his `defence´ he ain´t the only one that´s for sure

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You are WAY too right about that!

[bjf]

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What does

it say about the voters when someone who is pregidous and who sexually assaults women is elected?


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You are WAY too right about that!

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And because a man will still win elections big time despite way too many

accusations about that, the signal that gets sent is that such acts are acceptable, and there will continue to be

part of our society with way too many grabby men who are not treated like the degenerates and pieces of sh!T that

they are.

People like that should not be taken seriously, be in leadership positions. Society has to send a

message that it is unacceptable, but I guess, based on the election, it is.

[franki]

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What does it say about the voters when someone who

is pregidous and who sexually assaults women is elected?


<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\"> I don´t

like men who assault women but in his `defence´ he ain´t the only one that´s for sure

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You are WAY too right about that!

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And

because a man will still win elections big time despite way too many accusations about that, the signal that gets

sent is that such acts are acceptable, and there will continue to be part of our society with way too many grabby

men who are not treated like the degenerates and pieces of sh!T that they are.

People like that should not be

taken seriously, be in leadership positions. Society has to send a message that it is unacceptable, but I guess,

based on the election, it is.

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Men are men and they make mistakes.

I don\'t say what Arnold did is right, but I do think that we tend to be overly politically correct on things like

this.

[Holmes]

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And because a man will still win elections big time

despite way too many accusations about that, the signal that gets sent is that such acts are acceptable, and there

will continue to be part of our society with way too many grabby men who are not treated like the degenerates and

pieces of sh!T that they are.

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That is the awful truth.


Holmes

[bjf]

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Men are men and they make mistakes. I don\'t say

what Arnold did is right, but I do think that we tend to be overly politically correct on things like this.




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Making a mistake is different then repeatedly doing something

over and over again. That is not a \"mistake\".

I do not think people are P.C. enough about this, or

otherwise, he would not have been elected.

To me it is a serious act against a women, but I\'ll respect your

stance on the issue.

[OCP]

You

guys can discuss this. I am out of this one. Enjoy! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[bjf]

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You guys can discuss this. I am out of this one.

Enjoy! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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Okay,

just mae sure Elana gets her royalties on that one. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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[CJ01]

[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] It would have been simpler if Pancho had used just another one of

his polls but the again,not as interesting as this discussion has been

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[Quorum]

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The bottom line is that this proposed amendment is

unconstitutional. Even if Bush somehow got everyone in congress and every individual state to support this, the

Supreme Court should easily declare this unconstitutional because there is no way a country can support such an

amendment with no logical base but only a religiously moral issue.

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Therein lies the rub: if this got passed by Congress and ratified by the states, the Supreme

Court couldn\'t do anything about it. That\'s the reason that clowns like Bush and his right-wing base are

supporting this. They worry that the Supreme Court is going to strike down the Defense of Marriage Act, a regular

law that passed in 1996, so they want something that can\'t be struck down.

Seriously, when anyone can

articulate one specific, concrete, imminent harm - other than mere generalities - that gay marriage would cause to

either their own marriage OR to the institution of marriage itself, I\'ll join SRH and others in opposing it,

notwithstanding that I\'m gay myself. Thousands of gay couples have now been married in San Francisco, and a few

in New Mexico and now even in a small town in New York, and you\'ll notice that no, the sky has clearly not

fallen, nor has western civilization come crashing down as the right-wing as-----s have been warning. And

I\'m not holding my breath either. Personally, I always thought that civil unions were a perfectly acceptable

alternative to marriage for gay couples, but the arguments that have been made gay marriage, so far, are proving to

be so full of s--t that now I\'m getting more and more convinced that there really is no other alternative. I

have a feeling that as more people take an honest look around and notice that what Rosie O\'Donnell did at city

hall a few days ago has absolutely no negative impact whatsoever on either them or the institution of marriage,

they\'ll feel the same way.

Just my two cents . . . Thanks for reading

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[Kari]

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What does it say about the voters when someone who is pregidous and who

sexually assaults women is elected?


<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\"> I don´t like men who assault

women but in his `defence´ he ain´t the only one that´s for sure

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You are WAY too right about that!

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And

because a man will still win elections big time despite way too many accusations about that, the signal that gets

sent is that such acts are acceptable, and there will continue to be part of our society with way too many grabby

men who are not treated like the degenerates and pieces of sh!T that they are.

People like that should not be

taken seriously, be in leadership positions. Society has to send a message that it is unacceptable, but I guess,

based on the election, it is.

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Men are men and they make mistakes.

I don\'t say what Arnold did is right, but I do think that we tend to be overly politically correct on things like

this.

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Our governor makes a lot of \"mistakes\" and doesn\'t

seem to learn from them. If he worked for a corporation, demanding that a waitress stick her fingers in her vagina,

and then up his nose, would get him fired. So would throwing the make-up girl to the floor of an elevator, stopping

the thing between floors, and attempting to rape her. Then, there was the gang bang at Gold\'s gym. He gets away

with the stuff, because he\'s a movie star (rather than an actor).

The stuff he does ranges from sexual

harassment to full-out violent sexual assault-- not \"mistakes.\" I CANNOT believe you would condone this, under

the guise of \"political correctness,\" Franki. Attempted rape is not JUST \"politically incorrect.\" Some of

these women have had their livelihoods threatened, when they tried to file criminal complaints.

The guy is

notorious and unrelenting. He\'s also a lousy governor. I live here. You don\'t.

Now, I\'m outta here,

because I\'m angry and disgusted.

Have a nice day. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

[franki]

Hey, I don\'t say it is ok what he did, nor can i verify it, but judging by all the press attention for this it

seems people are aware of these problems already. BTW, I cant believe he can actually become governor when he

really attempted rape.. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

[Kari]

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Hey, I don\'t say it is ok what he did, nor can i

verify it, but judging by all the press attention for this it seems people are aware of these problems already.

BTW, I cant believe he can actually become governor when he really attempted rape..

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Yeah.. and I

can\'t believe that O.J. got off, either. Or, that a passel of our drugged out celebs aren\'t in jail or

treatment. Or, that James Brown was FINALLY charged with wife beating, when the cops have hitherto always looked the

other way. Welcome to Hollyweird.

Good bye.