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    STRIPPING 101 (from http://www.tuscl.com/)

    The Basics for Newbies
    By

    Celeste
    FIRST THINGS FIRST!
    So you have decided to give it a go. Good for you! Now to get started you first need

    to find a club that you like. In order to do this you will probably need to enlist the help of a male friend. Most

    clubs will not let you in without a male escort. Go to as many clubs as you can so that you find one you like best.



    Go to the clubs around 10pm so you are able to see how busy it gets. Thursday-Saturday nights are the busiest.

    Watch how the girls dance on stage. Make note of the music played and the girls attire. Usually the club allows a

    big variety of music and costumes. Some cater to certain types of crowds though so be aware of that.

    Next check

    out the VIP section where the girls give dances. Get some dances for yourself to see what type of contact is

    allowed. You\'ll be able to see other girls dancing in the room and just (subtley) watch what is going on. Some

    clubs allow alot more contact that others and you want to be comfortable while giving a dance (should you choose

    that club.)

    Talk to the girls that work there. Find out the tip out rates ( how much you have to pay to work

    there each night). Ask them how the management treats their employees. Talk to the manager yourself and see how they

    talk to you and treat you.

    Once you have found a couple clubs you like then find out what night their amatuer

    contest is (if they have one). That is the easiest way to audition. Make sure you are on time, with your makeup and

    hair fully done. Bring in some CD\'s with music that you like just in case they don\'t have what you want. Bring

    an extra outfit and pair of shoes, in case they want you to start that same night.

    Most importantly,

    PRACTICE!!!!!!!!!!! It is hard to get used to new shoes so make sure you break them in. Grab a mirror and your

    favorite songs and dance in front of the mirror so you can see what looks best. You want to look sexy so be sure to

    practice going from step to step. If you are doing floor work (laying down, etc.) be sure to get into a standing

    position smoothly and vice versa. Click here for Exotic Dance Lessons. They sell instructional exotic dance videos

    and books for exotic dancers.
    APPEARANCE
    You have to look your best at all times. You are portraying a fantasy.

    You want to be every part the lady and seductress. So let\'s touch on some things.

    HAIR: Do something special.

    Don\'t just wash and go. Curl it or straighten it. Get the frizz out, get your roots covered up, etc. Use fragrant

    shampoos and conditioners or scented hairsprays. But don\'t overboard. Guys like to feel girls hair a lot so just

    make it touchable.

    NAILS: Be clean. Do a quick inspection before you leave for work. Take care of any dirt or

    chipped nail polish. Get manicures and pedicures. You\'ll be surprised how many guys will want to massage your

    feet so keep them soft with lotion and pedicures.

    MAKE-UP: This can be tricky. You want to do your makeup darker

    than usual because the clubs are pretty dark inside but you don\'t want to end up like Tammy Fae Baker either!! Do

    your blush and eyeliner and lipstick a bit darker. Or if you prefer then use a heavy gloss instead of lipstick.

    Always carry powder for the shiney spots that show up after a heavy dance session in the VIP or onstage.



    PERFUME: Use it sparingly. Choose a subtle scent. The last thing a guy wants is to go home to his wife smelling

    like another woman. So use light scents or body sprays and lotions.

    BODY: Go tanning or use a bronzer. It makes

    a world of difference in the black light. It makes you look healthier. Exercise. You are making money based on

    appearance so take the time to make sure you look good. Use clear deodorant for sure!! Carry breath mints. \"Nuff

    said.

    CLOTHES: This is the fun part of the job! Be creative. Wear stuff that you are comfortable in. Try new

    colors, experiment with new things. Thigh highs and garters are good accessories. To start off, I suggest getting 2

    pairs of shoes. Black and white. They go with everything. Make sure to get slip guards. That is so important! Start

    off with a low heel (4 inches) until you get used to dancing in them. Get 4 thongs. 2 black and 2 white because they

    wear out fast since you wash them every night. I would say to start with about 4-6 outfits. Half should match the

    black and half the white. Pink, white, baby blue, etc. go with white. Black, dark blue, red, etc. go with black.

    Most girls carry a small purse with them. You can put your money in it, mints, powder, etc. Go to lingerie stores

    and tell them you are a dancer. They will usually give you a discount. Save all your receipts to use on your taxes.


    MUSIC
    Pick music that you are comfortable with but also go with the crowd. If it is mostly older white men then

    don\'t bust out with hard core rap. If you got a hip hop crowd then don\'t start playing country. You are

    performing for the crowd and generally the more they like the music the more money you will make in tips on stage. I

    usually try to do a slow song and a fast song for my set. Sometimes you only get to pick one song so make it count!!


    ATTITUDE
    This will make or break you so pay attention!

    STAGE: Give lots of eye contact. Smile and wink and

    make every guy feel as if you are dancing just for him. It makes the guy feel special and he is more willing to tip

    you if you are having fun. Never look bored or unsure of yourself. Guys like confidence and like a girl who is fun

    to be around. If you look like you don\'t want to be there then they won\'t want to be there either and there

    goes your money.

    FLOOR: Before you sit down, always ask if you can join him. He may have another girl he is

    waiting for. Never order a drink without him offering. It is rude and guys hate it. Always wait for him to ask. Ask

    his name and ask him about himself. Act interested. Touch his arm and make him feel important. Don\'t glance

    around the room or socialize with other girls. Talk to him for at least 2-3 songs before asking for a dance. Always

    be sure to say thank you for the dance or the drink or whatever. Show respect. You will gain more long term

    customers this way. After you give a dance always walk with him back to his table to say goodbye and thank you. If

    he is leaving then walk him to the door. Guys remember that kind of stuff and it makes a big difference. Trust me.

    No matter how tempting it is, don\'t complain about your night or your problems. Guys come in to get away from

    that. Don\'t lie and tell them you need the money for your car, rent, sick kids, etc. Every guy sees through that

    and it makes you look very bad. Act like a lady and you will get treated like one.

    GOOD LUCK AND HAVE FUN!



    Celeste

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    </font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
    STRIPPING 101 (from

    http://www.tuscl.com/)

    The Basics for Newbies
    By Celeste
    FIRST THINGS

    FIRST!
    So you have decided to give it a go. Good for you! Now to get started you first need to find a club that you

    like. In order to do this you will probably need to enlist the help of a male friend. Most clubs will not let you in

    without a male escort. Go to as many clubs as you can so that you find one you like best.

    Go to the clubs around

    10pm so you are able to see how busy it gets. Thursday-Saturday nights are the busiest. Watch how the girls dance on

    stage. Make note of the music played and the girls attire. Usually the club allows a big variety of music and

    costumes. Some cater to certain types of crowds though so be aware of that.

    Next check out the VIP section where

    the girls give dances. Get some dances for yourself to see what type of contact is allowed. You\'ll be able to see

    other girls dancing in the room and just (subtley) watch what is going on. Some clubs allow alot more contact that

    others and you want to be comfortable while giving a dance (should you choose that club.)

    Talk to the girls that

    work there. Find out the tip out rates ( how much you have to pay to work there each night). Ask them how the

    management treats their employees. Talk to the manager yourself and see how they talk to you and treat you.

    Once

    you have found a couple clubs you like then find out what night their amatuer contest is (if they have one). That is

    the easiest way to audition. Make sure you are on time, with your makeup and hair fully done. Bring in some CD\'s

    with music that you like just in case they don\'t have what you want. Bring an extra outfit and pair of shoes, in

    case they want you to start that same night.

    Most importantly, PRACTICE!!!!!!!!!!! It is hard to get used to new

    shoes so make sure you break them in. Grab a mirror and your favorite songs and dance in front of the mirror so you

    can see what looks best. You want to look sexy so be sure to practice going from step to step. If you are doing

    floor work (laying down, etc.) be sure to get into a standing position smoothly and vice versa. Click here for

    Exotic Dance Lessons. They sell instructional exotic dance videos and books for exotic dancers.
    APPEARANCE
    You

    have to look your best at all times. You are portraying a fantasy. You want to be every part the lady and

    seductress. So let\'s touch on some things.

    HAIR: Do something special. Don\'t just wash and go. Curl it or

    straighten it. Get the frizz out, get your roots covered up, etc. Use fragrant shampoos and conditioners or scented

    hairsprays. But don\'t overboard. Guys like to feel girls hair a lot so just make it touchable.

    NAILS: Be

    clean. Do a quick inspection before you leave for work. Take care of any dirt or chipped nail polish. Get manicures

    and pedicures. You\'ll be surprised how many guys will want to massage your feet so keep them soft with lotion and

    pedicures.

    MAKE-UP: This can be tricky. You want to do your makeup darker than usual because the clubs are

    pretty dark inside but you don\'t want to end up like Tammy Fae Baker either!! Do your blush and eyeliner and

    lipstick a bit darker. Or if you prefer then use a heavy gloss instead of lipstick. Always carry powder for the

    shiney spots that show up after a heavy dance session in the VIP or onstage.

    PERFUME: Use it sparingly. Choose a

    subtle scent. The last thing a guy wants is to go home to his wife smelling like another woman. So use light scents

    or body sprays and lotions.

    BODY: Go tanning or use a bronzer. It makes a world of difference in the black

    light. It makes you look healthier. Exercise. You are making money based on appearance so take the time to make sure

    you look good. Use clear deodorant for sure!! Carry breath mints. \"Nuff said.

    CLOTHES: This is the fun part of

    the job! Be creative. Wear stuff that you are comfortable in. Try new colors, experiment with new things. Thigh

    highs and garters are good accessories. To start off, I suggest getting 2 pairs of shoes. Black and white. They go

    with everything. Make sure to get slip guards. That is so important! Start off with a low heel (4 inches) until you

    get used to dancing in them. Get 4 thongs. 2 black and 2 white because they wear out fast since you wash them every

    night. I would say to start with about 4-6 outfits. Half should match the black and half the white. Pink, white,

    baby blue, etc. go with white. Black, dark blue, red, etc. go with black. Most girls carry a small purse with them.

    You can put your money in it, mints, powder, etc. Go to lingerie stores and tell them you are a dancer. They will

    usually give you a discount. Save all your receipts to use on your taxes.
    MUSIC
    Pick music that you are

    comfortable with but also go with the crowd. If it is mostly older white men then don\'t bust out with hard core

    rap. If you got a hip hop crowd then don\'t start playing country. You are performing for the crowd and generally

    the more they like the music the more money you will make in tips on stage. I usually try to do a slow song and a

    fast song for my set. Sometimes you only get to pick one song so make it count!!
    ATTITUDE
    This will make or break

    you so pay attention!

    STAGE: Give lots of eye contact. Smile and wink and make every guy feel as if you are

    dancing just for him. It makes the guy feel special and he is more willing to tip you if you are having fun. Never

    look bored or unsure of yourself. Guys like confidence and like a girl who is fun to be around. If you look like you

    don\'t want to be there then they won\'t want to be there either and there goes your money.

    FLOOR: Before

    you sit down, always ask if you can join him. He may have another girl he is waiting for. Never order a drink

    without him offering. It is rude and guys hate it. Always wait for him to ask. Ask his name and ask him about

    himself. Act interested. Touch his arm and make him feel important. Don\'t glance around the room or socialize

    with other girls. Talk to him for at least 2-3 songs before asking for a dance. Always be sure to say thank you for

    the dance or the drink or whatever. Show respect. You will gain more long term customers this way. After you give a

    dance always walk with him back to his table to say goodbye and thank you. If he is leaving then walk him to the

    door. Guys remember that kind of stuff and it makes a big difference. Trust me. No matter how tempting it is,

    don\'t complain about your night or your problems. Guys come in to get away from that. Don\'t lie and tell them

    you need the money for your car, rent, sick kids, etc. Every guy sees through that and it makes you look very bad.

    Act like a lady and you will get treated like one.

    GOOD LUCK AND HAVE FUN!

    Celeste

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    /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    There are classes available, and vids, too. FUN!

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    When I gain ~20 lbs. I want to know how to become a male escort for these women...

    [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

    Hell, where\'s the stripper FAQ for men?

    [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] Anyone want to see me dance?

    [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]


    *Chirp* *Chirp*


    Okay, nevermind...

    [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

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    Default Re: just trying to help you ladies out :wink:

    </font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
    When I gain ~20 lbs. I want to know how

    to become a male escort for these women... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

    Hell, where\'s

    the stripper FAQ for men? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] Anyone want to see me dance?

    [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]


    *Chirp* *Chirp*


    Okay, nevermind...

    [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

    <hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    Oh, I have a

    good story about that. An LAPD cop was out on disability with a back injury. He was busted for insurance fraud, when

    he was caught working as a Chippendale\'s dancer. Dumb bastard!&lt;g&gt;

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    Ladies pay attention! this is important stuff if you want a man and wan to get laid. More important than

    pheros!!!!

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    </font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
    Ladies pay attention! this is

    important stuff if you want a man and wan to get laid. More important than pheros!!!!

    <hr

    /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    Seriously... there are some very good classes, at least one instructional

    vid (which I own) around. This is a good thing to learn. You\'re hearing it from an ex-dancer.

    Non-dancers,

    who take this sort of instruction, not only learn to strip; they also learn how to walk across a room and rivet

    every eye.

    What I mean, is.. seduction is fun, but there are also other benefits-- poise, confidence, and grace,

    among them.

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    </font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
    Ahh, the timeless art of

    seduction...

    http://www.allposters.com

    /gallery.asp?aid=85097&amp;item=290667


    <hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    Yes, but elegant,

    old-style stripping is a graceful art form.

    I REAALY wish the old Pink Pussycat schools were still around.

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    Dancing in front of a mirror is something only somebody with unhealthy self confidence can do and get

    away without permanent consequences[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
    I\'ve seen the best dancers

    turn to neurotic nerds when they see themselves dancing [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
    Just go

    out there and do it. Ok the first few times the people around you will think something funny about you. And who

    cares? THEY are the discophile monkeys who take it too seriously, YOU are the cool freeminded person making fun of

    them in their own way [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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    </font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
    Dancing in front of a mirror is

    something only somebody with unhealthy self confidence can do and get away without permanent

    consequences[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
    I\'ve seen the best dancers turn to neurotic nerds

    when they see themselves dancing [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
    Just go out there and do it. Ok

    the first few times the people around you will think something funny about you. And who cares? THEY are the

    discophile monkeys who take it too seriously, YOU are the cool freeminded person making fun of them in their own way

    [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

    <hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    But. I\'m

    talking about old-fashioned Gypsy Rose Lee type strip tease. Very elegant, Very feminine. Very ladylike, actually.

    Theee\'s a styleto it, so training is worthwhile.

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    Default Re: just trying to help you ladies out :wink:

    </font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
    I\'m talking about old-fashioned

    Gypsy Rose Lee type strip tease. Very elegant, Very feminine. Very ladylike, actually.

    <hr /></blockquote><font

    class=\"post\">

    Isn\'t that more of a burlesque show.... not really like your average strip clubs today. Do

    burlesque shows still exist in the U.S.?

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    Ahhhh, [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img] memories...

    <font

    color=\"blue\">[Homer]</font>
    You could close down Moe\'s
    Or the Kwik-E-Mart
    And nobody would

    care
    But the heart and soul of Springfield\'s in our Maison Derriere
    <font color=\"blue\">[Belle]</font>


    We\'re the sauce on your steak
    The cheese in your cake
    We put the spring in Springfield
    <font

    color=\"blue\">[Dancer 1]</font>
    We\'re the lace on the nightgown
    <font color=\"blue\">[Dancer

    2]</font>
    The point after touchdown
    <font color=\"blue\">[Belle &amp; Dancers]</font>
    Yes, we put the

    spring in Springfield
    <font color=\"blue\">[Belle] </font>
    We\'re that little extra spice that makes

    existence extra-nice
    A giddy little thrill at a reasonable price
    <font color=\"blue\">[Rev Lovejoy]

    </font> Our only major quarrel\'s with your total lack of morals
    <font color=\"blue\">[Dancer 1] </font>

    Our skimpy costumes ain\'t so bad
    <font color=\"blue\">[Dancer 2] </font> They seem to entertain your

    dad
    <font color=\"blue\">[Belle &amp; Dancers] </font>
    The gin in your martini, the clams on your

    linguine
    Yes, we keep the in Springfield
    <font color=\"blue\">[Wiggum, Krusty &amp; Skinner] </font> We

    remember our first visit
    <font color=\"blue\">[Mayor Quimby] </font> The service was exquisite!
    <font

    color=\"blue\">[Mrs Quimby] </font> Why, Joseph, I had no idea!
    <font color=\"blue\">[Mayor Quimby]

    </font> Come on now, you were working here!
    <font color=\"blue\">[Grampa &amp; Jasper] </font>
    Without

    it, we\'d have had no fun
    Since the March of 1961!
    <font color=\"blue\">[Bart] </font> To shut it

    down now would be twisted
    <font color=\"blue\">[Jimbo, Dolph &amp; Kearney] </font> We just heard this

    place existed
    <font color=\"blue\">[Dancers] </font> We\'re the highlights in your hairdo
    <font

    color=\"blue\">[Apu] </font> The extra arms on Vishnu!
    <font color=\"blue\">[Dancers] </font> So,

    don\'t take the
    <font color=\"blue\">[Men] </font> We won\'t take the
    <font

    color=\"blue\">[All] </font> Yes, let\'s keep the in Springfield!

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    </font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
    </font><blockquote><font

    class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
    I\'m talking about old-fashioned Gypsy Rose Lee type strip tease. Very

    elegant, Very feminine. Very ladylike, actually.

    <hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    Isn\'t that

    more of a burlesque show.... not really like your average strip clubs today. Do burlesque shows still exist in the

    U.S.?

    <hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    Yes, some places. It\'s being rediscovered as an art

    form, and training is being offered, some places.

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    I want to learn belly dancing. Maybe I could later segue into something more blatantly erotic, but I

    always thought belly dancing would be fun. Good exercise too. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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    I want to learn belly dancing. Maybe I

    could later segue into something more blatantly erotic, but I always thought belly dancing would be fun. Good

    exercise too. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

    <hr /></blockquote><font

    class=\"post\">

    Belly dancing is what got me my 24 inch waistline, and flat belly. I was a profesional

    bellydancer in So. CA nightclub shows for over 20 years. I quit a couple of years ago. Got bored with long drives

    late at night. My stage name is Anbreen.

    YES! DO it! It\'s GREAT for your body, you get to play dress-up, it

    will make you strong and graceful, and your self-confidence will go through the ROOF!

    Three pieces of advice--

    1) practice,practice,practice, 2) start dancing before audiences-- even just family, as soon as you can. You improve

    faster that way., 3) get or make yourself a costume as soon as you can. The costumes are designed to emphasize the

    sound AND feel of the movement, so you\'ll also improve faster through kinesthetic feedback.

    Two funny

    stories-- one about a stage name, and one about an obnoxious audience mamber.

    Stage name-- one of the dancers

    used \"Khara,\" for along time. Actually, Revlon also named a perfume that. Til they found out it means sh#t in

    Arabic. It means \"joyous\" in Greek, but you gotta be careful cross-culture.

    Obnoxious-- one night, I went off

    stage, and was dancing in the audience to the second beledi (fast section of music).

    I was in a show at a hotel.

    A guy stuck his key in my costume, and asked me to meet him after the show. I thought to give the key to the desk,

    on my way to the dressing room, after my routine.

    As I was on my way to the dressing room, a second guy

    approached and propositioned me. I gave him the first guy\'s key. I always hoped the first guy would be in bed

    with a bottle of champaign, when the second guy came in. &lt;g&gt;

    Oh! One other thing-- an important part of the

    dance is the veil work. getting hold of a three-yard piece of cloth and just playing with it really helps to develop

    technique, even before you take instruction.

    BTW-- I just judged a big bellydance contest in Long Beach. My 14th

    year of judging. It was FUN! We also got a lot of TV coverage (slow news week?). &lt;g&gt;

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    </font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
    BTW-- I just judged a big bellydance contest in

    Long Beach. My 14th year of judging. It was FUN! We also got a lot of TV coverage (slow news week?). &lt;g&gt;



    <hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    Yep. No hostages taken this week.

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    I want to learn belly dancing. Maybe I could later segue into something more

    blatantly erotic, but I always thought belly dancing would be fun. Good exercise too.

    [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

    <hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    Belly dancing

    is what got me my 24 inch waistline, and flat belly. I was a profesional bellydancer in So. CA nightclub shows for

    over 20 years. I quit a couple of years ago. Got bored with long drives late at night. My stage name is Anbreen.



    YES! DO it! It\'s GREAT for your body, you get to play dress-up, it will make you strong and graceful, and

    your self-confidence will go through the ROOF!

    Three pieces of advice-- 1) practice,practice,practice, 2) start

    dancing before audiences-- even just family, as soon as you can. You improve faster that way., 3) get or make

    yourself a costume as soon as you can. The costumes are designed to emphasize the sound AND feel of the movement, so

    you\'ll also improve faster through kinesthetic feedback.

    Two funny stories-- one about a stage name, and one

    about an obnoxious audience mamber.

    Stage name-- one of the dancers used \"Khara,\" for along time. Actually,

    Revlon also named a perfume that. Til they found out it means sh#t in Arabic. It means \"joyous\" in Greek, but

    you gotta be careful cross-culture.

    Obnoxious-- one night, I went off stage, and was dancing in the audience to

    the second beledi (fast section of music).

    I was in a show at a hotel. A guy stuck his key in my costume, and

    asked me to meet him after the show. I thought to give the key to the desk, on my way to the dressing room, after my

    routine.

    As I was on my way to the dressing room, a second guy approached and propositioned me. I gave him the

    first guy\'s key. I always hoped the first guy would be in bed with a bottle of champaign, when the second guy

    came in. &lt;g&gt;

    Oh! One other thing-- an important part of the dance is the veil work. getting hold of a

    three-yard piece of cloth and just playing with it really helps to develop technique, even before you take

    instruction.

    BTW-- I just judged a big bellydance contest in Long Beach. My 14th year of judging. It was FUN! We

    also got a lot of TV coverage (slow news week?). &lt;g&gt;

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    Kari,

    Do you ever dance in Pasadena? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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    I want to

    learn belly dancing. Maybe I could later segue into something more blatantly erotic, but I always thought belly

    dancing would be fun. Good exercise too. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

    <hr

    /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    Belly dancing is what got me my 24 inch waistline, and flat belly. I was a

    profesional bellydancer in So. CA nightclub shows for over 20 years. I quit a couple of years ago. Got bored with

    long drives late at night. My stage name is Anbreen.

    YES! DO it! It\'s GREAT for your body, you get to play

    dress-up, it will make you strong and graceful, and your self-confidence will go through the ROOF!

    Three pieces

    of advice-- 1) practice,practice,practice, 2) start dancing before audiences-- even just family, as soon as you can.

    You improve faster that way., 3) get or make yourself a costume as soon as you can. The costumes are designed to

    emphasize the sound AND feel of the movement, so you\'ll also improve faster through kinesthetic feedback.



    Two funny stories-- one about a stage name, and one about an obnoxious audience mamber.

    Stage name-- one of

    the dancers used \"Khara,\" for along time. Actually, Revlon also named a perfume that. Til they found out it

    means sh#t in Arabic. It means \"joyous\" in Greek, but you gotta be careful cross-culture.

    Obnoxious-- one

    night, I went off stage, and was dancing in the audience to the second beledi (fast section of music).

    I was in

    a show at a hotel. A guy stuck his key in my costume, and asked me to meet him after the show. I thought to give the

    key to the desk, on my way to the dressing room, after my routine.

    As I was on my way to the dressing room, a

    second guy approached and propositioned me. I gave him the first guy\'s key. I always hoped the first guy would be

    in bed with a bottle of champaign, when the second guy came in. &lt;g&gt;

    Oh! One other thing-- an important part

    of the dance is the veil work. getting hold of a three-yard piece of cloth and just playing with it really helps to

    develop technique, even before you take instruction.

    BTW-- I just judged a big bellydance contest in Long Beach.

    My 14th year of judging. It was FUN! We also got a lot of TV coverage (slow news week?). &lt;g&gt;

    <hr

    /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    Kari,

    Do you ever dance in Pasadena?

    [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

    <hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    Used to,

    sometimes. Mostly Long Beach and O.C., though. Also, L.A.

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    BTW-- If you live around Pasadena and get motivated to enroll in bellydance lessons, I recommend

    Kamala. She\'s one of the best in the business, and a VERY nice person. Her kid students have walked off with

    trophies at the LOng Beach contest three years running.

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    BTW-- If you live around Pasadena and get motivated

    to enroll in bellydance lessons, I recommend Kamala. She\'s one of the best in the business, and a VERY nice

    person. Her kid students have walked off with trophies at the LOng Beach contest three years running.

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    I am in an MBA program at the moment, so no belly dancing for me. I ask

    because there is a resturant in Pasadena called Burger Continental that has belly dancers perform at times. I

    thought you might have performed there. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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    BTW-- If you live around Pasadena and get motivated to enroll in bellydance

    lessons, I recommend Kamala. She\'s one of the best in the business, and a VERY nice person. Her kid students have

    walked off with trophies at the LOng Beach contest three years running.

    <hr /></blockquote><font

    class=\"post\">


    I am in an MBA program at the moment, so no belly dancing for me. I ask because there is a

    resturant in Pasadena called Burger Continental that has belly dancers perform at times. I thought you might have

    performed there. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

    <hr /></blockquote><font

    class=\"post\">

    I have performed there. But,it\'s been awhile. I think Kamala, in fact, is there now.

    My

    friends and I eat there, a lot (LOVE the Jerualem salad!). And, my friend, John Bilezikjian use to perform there.



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    BTW-- If you

    live around Pasadena and get motivated to enroll in bellydance lessons, I recommend Kamala. She\'s one of the best

    in the business, and a VERY nice person. Her kid students have walked off with trophies at the LOng Beach contest

    three years running.

    <hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">


    I am in an MBA program at the moment, so

    no belly dancing for me. I ask because there is a resturant in Pasadena called Burger Continental that has belly

    dancers perform at times. I thought you might have performed there.

    [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

    <hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    I have

    performed there. But,it\'s been awhile. I think Kamala, in fact, is there now.

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    Is she the blonde? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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    BTW-- If you live around Pasadena and get

    motivated to enroll in bellydance lessons, I recommend Kamala. She\'s one of the best in the business, and a VERY

    nice person. Her kid students have walked off with trophies at the LOng Beach contest three years running.

    <hr

    /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">


    I am in an MBA program at the moment, so no belly dancing for me. I ask

    because there is a resturant in Pasadena called Burger Continental that has belly dancers perform at times. I

    thought you might have performed there. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

    <hr

    /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    I have performed there. But,it\'s been awhile. I think Kamala, in fact,

    is there now.

    <hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    Is she the blonde?

    [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

    <hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    Kamala\'s

    brunette. But, the other dancer, there, who performs on alternate days is a very nice, and very pretty blonde. Her

    stage name is Shira.

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    BTW-- If you live around Pasadena and get motivated to enroll in bellydance

    lessons, I recommend Kamala. She\'s one of the best in the business, and a VERY nice person. Her kid students have

    walked off with trophies at the LOng Beach contest three years running.

    <hr /></blockquote><font

    class=\"post\">


    I am in an MBA program at the moment, so no belly dancing for me. I ask because there is a

    resturant in Pasadena called Burger Continental that has belly dancers perform at times. I thought you might have

    performed there. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

    <hr /></blockquote><font

    class=\"post\">

    I have performed there. But,it\'s been awhile. I think Kamala, in fact, is there now.



    <hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    Is she the blonde?

    [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

    <hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    Kamala\'s

    brunette. But, the other dancer, there, who performs on alternate days is a very nice, and very pretty blonde. Her

    stage name is Shira.

    <hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    I have seen Shira. I will look for the

    brunette. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

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    BTW-- If you

    live around Pasadena and get motivated to enroll in bellydance lessons, I recommend Kamala. She\'s one of the best

    in the business, and a VERY nice person. Her kid students have walked off with trophies at the LOng Beach contest

    three years running.

    <hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">


    I am in an MBA program at the moment, so

    no belly dancing for me. I ask because there is a resturant in Pasadena called Burger Continental that has belly

    dancers perform at times. I thought you might have performed there.

    [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

    <hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    I have

    performed there. But,it\'s been awhile. I think Kamala, in fact, is there now.

    <hr /></blockquote><font

    class=\"post\">

    Is she the blonde? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

    <hr

    /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    Kamala\'s brunette. But, the other dancer, there, who performs on

    alternate days is a very nice, and very pretty blonde. Her stage name is Shira.

    <hr /></blockquote><font

    class=\"post\">

    I have seen Shira. I will look for the brunette.

    [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

    <hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    Tell her

    Kari/Anbreen says \"hey!\" So does Vicky.

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    BTW-- If you live around Pasadena and get

    motivated to enroll in bellydance lessons, I recommend Kamala. She\'s one of the best in the business, and a VERY

    nice person. Her kid students have walked off with trophies at the LOng Beach contest three years running.

    <hr

    /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">


    I am in an MBA program at the moment, so no belly dancing for me. I ask

    because there is a resturant in Pasadena called Burger Continental that has belly dancers perform at times. I

    thought you might have performed there. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

    <hr

    /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    I have performed there. But,it\'s been awhile. I think Kamala, in fact,

    is there now.

    <hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    Is she the blonde?

    [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

    <hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    Kamala\'s

    brunette. But, the other dancer, there, who performs on alternate days is a very nice, and very pretty blonde. Her

    stage name is Shira.

    <hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    I have seen Shira. I will look for the

    brunette. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

    <hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    Tell

    her Kari/Anbreen says \"hey!\" So does Vicky.

    <hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    And THAT, my

    friends, would be the best pick-up line (if she was single, of course)...

    [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

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    BTW-- If you live around Pasadena and get motivated to enroll in bellydance

    lessons, I recommend Kamala. She\'s one of the best in the business, and a VERY nice person. Her kid students have

    walked off with trophies at the LOng Beach contest three years running.

    <hr /></blockquote><font

    class=\"post\">


    I am in an MBA program at the moment, so no belly dancing for me. I ask because there is a

    resturant in Pasadena called Burger Continental that has belly dancers perform at times. I thought you might have

    performed there. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

    <hr /></blockquote><font

    class=\"post\">

    I have performed there. But,it\'s been awhile. I think Kamala, in fact, is there now.



    <hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    Is she the blonde?

    [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

    <hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    Kamala\'s

    brunette. But, the other dancer, there, who performs on alternate days is a very nice, and very pretty blonde. Her

    stage name is Shira.

    <hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    I have seen Shira. I will look for the

    brunette. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

    <hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    Tell

    her Kari/Anbreen says \"hey!\" So does Vicky.

    <hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    And THAT, my

    friends, would be the best pick-up line (if she was single, of course)...

    [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

    <hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    Pancho, who

    cares if she is single....The question is ,..\"is she willing? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]


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    BTW-- If you live around Pasadena and get

    motivated to enroll in bellydance lessons, I recommend Kamala. She\'s one of the best in the business, and a VERY

    nice person. Her kid students have walked off with trophies at the LOng Beach contest three years running.

    <hr

    /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">


    I am in an MBA program at the moment, so no belly dancing for me. I ask

    because there is a resturant in Pasadena called Burger Continental that has belly dancers perform at times. I

    thought you might have performed there. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

    <hr

    /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    I have performed there. But,it\'s been awhile. I think Kamala, in fact,

    is there now.

    <hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    Is she the blonde?

    [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

    <hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    Kamala\'s

    brunette. But, the other dancer, there, who performs on alternate days is a very nice, and very pretty blonde. Her

    stage name is Shira.

    <hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    I have seen Shira. I will look for the

    brunette. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

    <hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    Tell

    her Kari/Anbreen says \"hey!\" So does Vicky.

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    OK, I will. I am

    ther once a week. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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    nice person. Her kid students have walked off with trophies at the LOng Beach contest three years running.

    <hr

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    I am in an MBA program at the moment, so no belly dancing for me. I ask

    because there is a resturant in Pasadena called Burger Continental that has belly dancers perform at times. I

    thought you might have performed there. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

    <hr

    /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    I have performed there. But,it\'s been awhile. I think Kamala, in fact,

    is there now.

    <hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    Is she the blonde?

    [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

    <hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    Kamala\'s

    brunette. But, the other dancer, there, who performs on alternate days is a very nice, and very pretty blonde. Her

    stage name is Shira.

    <hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    I have seen Shira. I will look for the

    brunette. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

    <hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    Tell

    her Kari/Anbreen says \"hey!\" So does Vicky.

    <hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    My stage-name is

    Princess Banana-Hammock [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

    [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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    BTW-- If you live around Pasadena and get motivated to enroll in bellydance

    lessons, I recommend Kamala. She\'s one of the best in the business, and a VERY nice person. Her kid students have

    walked off with trophies at the LOng Beach contest three years running.

    <hr /></blockquote><font

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    I am in an MBA program at the moment, so no belly dancing for me. I ask because there is a

    resturant in Pasadena called Burger Continental that has belly dancers perform at times. I thought you might have

    performed there. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

    <hr /></blockquote><font

    class=\"post\">

    I have performed there. But,it\'s been awhile. I think Kamala, in fact, is there now.



    <hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    Is she the blonde?

    [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

    <hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    Kamala\'s

    brunette. But, the other dancer, there, who performs on alternate days is a very nice, and very pretty blonde. Her

    stage name is Shira.

    <hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    I have seen Shira. I will look for the

    brunette. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

    <hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    Tell

    her Kari/Anbreen says \"hey!\" So does Vicky.

    <hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    OK, I will. I am

    ther once a week. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

    <hr /></blockquote><font

    class=\"post\">

    Oh! And, congratulate her on her student winning Tonya\'s contest-- again. Tell her that Kari

    mentioned it to you. THEN, try to explain how you met me. ROFL!!


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