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    Mike,

    Your thinking of stank

    people, not "THE STANK".

    Read the 5 pages worth of history and theory in the thread and then the sometimes

    atrocious yet fantastic and amazing "THE STANK" will reveal itself to you in a sudden apiffany.

    Or if your old

    enough, and you weren't completely stoned, you might remember a brief comeback in THE STANK during the rise of the

    hippies.

    Some were stank, but some were "STANKEN".

    Us guys didn't ALWAYS have Alberto VO-5 and Dial after

    all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Nardoni
    I bet

    the wives of you married men would have a differant take on this , or should i say only single guys with no wife

    /girlfriend would ever get away with such an experiement. LOL
    I don't even want to think about what my SO

    would say, it would certainly be colorful. If the shoe was on the other foot, I know what I would say...over the

    phone or from another room. Yuck!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kardz
    Us guys didn't ALWAYS

    have Alberto VO-5 and Dial after all.
    Yes, but there was always patchouli oil!!
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    Hygene is very inportant.Daily

    bathing isnt a bad idea.But what comes into question is the soap that we use.As a matter of practice when I

    shower,most of the time I dont use soap.Hot water should be enough for daily grunge as long as you dont work as a

    ditch digger or sovel manuer for a living.Soap showers a couple times a week and the rest of the time its just hot

    water.This is usualy sufficent to remove any unpleasant things from your body while not unnecessarily drying the

    skin or washing away things that your body produces that are actualy good for your skin.

    In ages past,soap was

    nonexistant or at the very least very rare.But bathing was common.In Japan,people bathe quite alot.But soap isnt

    usualy used.In ancient Rome,soap was very rare but bathing was considered esential.Nature made this wonderful stuff

    called water for us to use for a variety of purposes.Cooking,cleaning,drinking,boating,wet t-shirt contests and so

    forth.There is no reason to be afraid of it.Just use it for what it was meant for.

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    Here is an experiment:

    The

    next time one of you have smelly armpits, and I do mean that strong, ammonia stink that no one could like;

    take a long, hot water shower and scrub your skin with a coarse cloth or loofa sponge. Use no soap during your

    shower.
    Rinse your pits thoroughly. Then put on clean clothes. You can apply a drop of sandalwood under each

    pit, if you want your good smell to last.

    Whenever I have done this, my armpits have smelled fine afterwards,

    even if they stank noticeably before.
    That is because that strong, ammonia-like stink that most of us associate

    with pits is water soluble. I'd even like to see the famously musky Belgareth (meant as a compliment, of

    course! Musky people usually have better natural luck with women.) try this after a workout, since the one

    stank experiment he reported here apparently omitted the shower and scrub part (He just put on fresh clothes

    after a workout, IIRC). The key is to take the shower and exfoliate, not just neglect your hygiene.

    Then smell

    your pits. Are they mildly musky, or do they smell bad? Please report back.
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    DST have a

    point.

    Sometimes at the gym, when I had done a great workout (weightlifting, boxercise or aerobic) I forget

    my soap, so I just shower with water (no loofa though, just my hands) and the smell goes away. Usually I *do* use

    deodorant so maybe my voice dont count, but hey!, I tried anyway!

    LoL

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    Now that you put it that way

    doc, I can recall more than one time when I've worked out then taken a swim and seemed fine for a few hours at

    least. I'm not sure just how musky I really am but it seems reasonable as I have a lot of body hair which would

    retain pheromones better than smooth skin, I think. I've also been using diluted Sandalwood in my pits for over a

    year at your suggestion. It works fine but the pure oil irritates my skin.

    The relationships are mentioned other

    places but I've been working out regularly almost all my life, take supplements that increase testosterone (among

    other things) and am self confident. They all play their part and unless I quit the othr things I do it would be

    almost impossible to tell you which piece played the greater role.
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    I shower everyday, sometime twice a

    day and I don't always use deodorant.
    2 weeks ago I had a romantic encounter with a Asian female and she told me

    that she had two request. The first is that I shave the hair in my pubic area and the second is that I use

    deodorant.
    I found the second comment interesting so I asked her if I had any funky pit smell before the sex and

    she said no.

    I haven't had any negative comments from any other women before or since.
    Could it be that

    she had certain sensitivity or maybe she was smelling a little Edge that I sprayed on in the

    AM?



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    There is a difference between

    not using deodorant when you soap shower everyday and not using it when you use only hot water and foster a healthy

    bacteria balance.

    Also there is a cultural difference. It doesn't apply to all Asian women, however.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DCW
    I shower everyday,

    sometime twice a day and I don't always use deodorant.
    2 weeks ago I had a romantic encounter with a Asian female

    and she told me that she had two request. The first is that I shave the hair in my pubic area and the second is that

    I use deodorant.
    I found the second comment interesting so I asked her if I had any funky pit smell before the sex

    and she said no.

    I haven't had any negative comments from any other women before or since.
    Could it be that

    she had certain sensitivity or maybe she was smelling a little Edge that I sprayed on in the AM?





    DCW
    I would guess it was possible perspiration getting on her if she says there was no BO smell. But

    that's just a guess if she's mentioning deoderant.

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    The small percentage of women who

    may be turned on by stink , Is hardly enough to convince me that this is something too even consider . I remember in

    junior high , We had a girl, and boy who smelled bad , And the hell they were put thru probably haunts them to this

    day lol.

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    I hear you. But we're talking

    about two different things, if that makes sense.
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    I've noticed when I am not feeling

    well my pits can really reek. And just using water has little impact. I have to soap up at least three times and let

    it "sit and work" for a while between rinsings. Regular bacteria-generated pit stink may be different.

    I don't

    recall any situation where a female commented one way or another on my "BO," and it's been too long fo rme to

    recall how I reacted to a woman's up close BO.
    The opposite of love isn't hate.
    It's apathy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rbt
    I've noticed when I

    am not feeling well my pits can really reek. And just using water has little impact. I have to soap up at least

    three times and let it "sit and work" for a while between rinsings. Regular bacteria-generated pit stink may be

    different.

    I don't recall any situation where a female commented one way or another on my "BO," and it's been

    too long fo rme to recall how I reacted to a woman's up close BO.
    Wow! So I am not the only one that has

    noticed such thing. Really, whenever I am feeling sick (by the way, including hangovers), it is just disgusting. And

    yes - it is not easy at all to get rid of the smell. Also, the reek, when being ill, comes really fast, whereas I

    could spend a day (probably even two - I do not remember the last time I did not take a shower in two days, though)

    without smelling bad at all, when I am well.

    About BO and women, though, there is a guy in my class, who really

    stinks. It is disgusting. It seems as if he never washes his clothes or hisself. All the boys are running from him

    and opening the windows, whereas the girls do not even seem to notice it! Most of his deskmates are girls, she talks

    to a lot of girls during the schooldays and has a lot of girlfriends. Are the girls not able to smell it? Does it

    not seem that bad to them? Are his natural pheromones that powerful, that girls just want to be near him, despite

    the smell?

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    It's true -- the stink when

    you're sick or "toxic."

    But if you have built up a healthy colony or healthy skin bacteria you willl have more

    resistance even to that stink, as your bacteria will absorb it and transform it to something benign.

    Still, if

    your skin situation gets too toxic or rancid (from inappropriately balanced bacteria), it can be good to cleanse

    and start over.

    Your friend is releasing pheromones that repel other men and attract women. That is good for

    him, but not others. Some do that more than others. I know someone like that, too; a former coworker. He stinks,

    but is with a different hot woman every time I see him. It's for some a fine line to walk. But if you have good,

    soap-free hygiene, you can get the best of both worlds. I know it's hard to believe. People always bring up

    the example of someone they know who stinks, never bathes, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrSmellThis
    He stinks, but is

    with a different hot woman every time I see him.

    Maybe that's why he's with a different

    woman everytime.

    I find that water isn't enough to get rid of my bacteria in the arm pits, and the funky

    smell stays.

    However, I think I might have some sort of unbalanced PH or something. Stuff just seems to

    convert on me.
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    * bjf: What else are you doing

    with your pits, though?? Again, the object is NOT to get rid of bacteria.

    * Another hint: Brush your teeth

    after your last meal of the day, and then just rinse your mouth out with water until you eat another meal. Saliva

    and natural mouth bacteria is not a problem, and will enhance attraction for a healthy person. It is usually enough

    to rinse your mouth with water (adda drop of organic peppermint or clove EO to make a drinkable mouthwash, if

    desired), except after the last meal of the day. Flossing is still important. It's about removing food, not

    disinfecting. You can also brush without toothpaste after other meals. My attraction goes up with musky breath.
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    I am lifting my underarms and letting

    the shower head hit directly at both points. I'll use my hand to scrub like I would if I had soap.

    I see

    your point about just using water for your breath, as our mouth can have a lot of pheromones. However, that's

    threading into some dangerous territory. And Flossing would then become extremely important as you incidated.

    Without the floride levels toothpaste have, you are going to get cavilties at a much higher rate if you don't

    really remove the food well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bjf
    I am lifting my

    underarms and letting the shower head hit directly at both points. I'll use my hand to scrub like I would if I had

    soap.

    I see your point about just using water for your breath, as our mouth can have a lot of pheromones.

    However, that's threading into some dangerous territory. And Flossing would then become extremely important as you

    incidated. Without the floride levels toothpaste have, you are going to get cavilties at a much higher rate if you

    don't really remove the food well.
    Try avoiding deodorant, exfoliating, sweating, and using sandalwood (or

    similar earthy EO) daily. Also you have to run the water on it and scrub a while for your pits, like 30 sec per pit.

    A brief rinse doesn't do it, and with practice you can smell when you've rinsed enough while still in the shower.

    Maybe you need a sauna or strong workout first, to give your pores a cleanse. Good luck.

    Teeth: Again the

    logic is often upside down: Having a healthy bacterial balance in your mouth ought to reduce cavities, as the

    unhealthy bacteria would be outnumbered and controlled.

    The point is to reduce leftover food particles and

    sugars, not bacteria per se. If you haven't eaten since your last brush, you don't need to brush. Water with

    peppermint EO is all you need in the AM if you brushed after dinner. A clean mouth naturally attracts good bacteria.

    Then you get your sexy mouth smell too.

    I hate when my girlfriend brushes her teeth just before making out with

    me. It takes away part of the intoxicating effect that gets me going.

    You can get an alcohol free flouride rinse

    if your drinking water isn't flouridated. Yes, flossing is important in this scheme.

    Peppermint EO, but only

    the organic variety, is great for this system. Up to three drops per glass of water works great, and you can drink

    the mouthwash as a bonus for your stomach odor and digestion.
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    This sounds interesting, but I have to

    ask a simple question other that DST has anyone else had any "positive results" using this method.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DCW
    Ok excuse my ignorance

    but I am told that \"some\" Europeans (not all) don\'t shower as frequently as we do here in North America.
    So

    those who travel to Europe how do u find the members of the opposite sex? I know this is a loaded question but what

    the hell.
    Very true. As an American I lived over there for about 1.5 years and I can tell you in the

    buses some folks smelled like total A$$. I couldn't wait to get off at times.

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    Anyone here read "Cultivating

    male sexual energy" by Mantak Chia? Just on a precursory note, it's a tai chi/chi kung on how to circulate the male

    energy and cultivate multiple orgasms. Worth reading.

    Anyways, I remember now that he was advising that when

    showering, if you have to use soap, only use it on your feet, privates and face. I can't recall if he used the word

    pheromones, but it was driving at the same point.

    DST, I recall some thread I read you suggesting to use Pheros

    as deodorant. I loved this thread and decided to recommit to the non-soap path. I used some pheros as deoodorant

    today. Works well, and the smell stays even after a hot shower (without soap). Again, I guess you would suggest that

    using pheros would blend or maximize one's own pheromones correct?
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    Hmm, I have noticed something

    that to my mind seems quite weird. Using a fairly cheap crystal deodorant, I am OK for pretty much the whole day -

    no sweat or anything. Few weeks ago I ran out of my deodorant and this time decided to buy quite an expensive Hugo

    Boss deodorant. But about half a day after applying, I already stink (!) and definitely have to take a shower again.

    Well, I often take a shower more than once a day, but when I am using the Hugo Boss deodorant, this is a MUST.

    Is

    it possible that for my body, a crystal deodorant is just the best, whereas a regular deodorant does not do much? Or

    is it that Hugo Boss would not be good? I doubt that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by junglesitar
    Anyone here

    read "Cultivating male sexual energy" by Mantak Chia? Just on a precursory note, it's a tai chi/chi kung on how to

    circulate the male energy and cultivate multiple orgasms. Worth reading.

    Anyways, I remember now that he was

    advising that when showering, if you have to use soap, only use it on your feet, privates and face. I can't recall

    if he used the word pheromones, but it was driving at the same point.
    Yes, he was one of the influences

    on stank theory from the beginning. Very successful with women if I recall.
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    A quick on topic note: I normaly

    just use shampoo for my hair and plain water for everything else - but there is no way I'm doing any roman type

    stuff even though it was a joke (mostly) I wanted to comment that if a chick were to go down on you and smell hot

    sweaty poo shes gunna get in the car and leave and on the trip home shes going to call ALL of her friends and tell

    them of the horror.


    That being said ~ my last girlfriend would put her nose in my armpits when she was in

    cowgirl position and she would even lick them sometimes - she really got off on the smell, I had to ask her what the

    deal was and she said that instead of being repulsive she wanted more of the smell. - - I would like to avoid the

    folowing description because it sounds over dramatic however I dont know how to:,. With her nose in my pit she

    reminded me of a wild animal, the way she was lost in the moment and humping with a lot of strength like she was in

    a trance.


    Take that with salt if you need to but it's an honest report on her behavior.



    Pongo

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