Anti Perspirant and Deodorant use.
I read
somewhere that women are attracted to the nautral underarm smell of some men.
Anyone ever tried showering but
skipping the use of deodorant or using some crappy brands like EXE or such.
I had a date and the girl I was with
had a slight underarm BO (I said slight) it kinda made me horny so thats why I\'m asking.
Note I\'m a firm
believer in showering everyday so I\'m not saying you should go a week without a bath jusk possible skipping
commecial deodarants and anti-perspirants.
DC
I drink coffee regularily
and it makes me sweat more than without coffee. I wonder if that is a good thing?
Originally Posted by Knuuttipukki
'mone-wise, I couldn't say Knuuttipukki. However, like with most things it is probably best enjoyed in
moderation since there are likely to be many pro's and con's. Personally, I try not to drink it as I do know it
can be partly responsible for low serotonin levels in the brain, causing anxiety, stress, apathy and perhaps
eventually depression if you are pre-conditioned. That's not to say you cant drink coffee and be perfectly happy,
as many people I know do so at their leisure and to their pleasure.
"Some days will stay a thousand years, some pass like the flash of a spark...who knows where all our days go?"
With reference to the
stenchmeister plan; Should I drip dry to preserve natural 'mones? Or is drying myself with a towel OK after
showering?
"Some days will stay a thousand years, some pass like the flash of a spark...who knows where all our days go?"
I'm curious, is DST still of that
advice? I'd like to hear from him too.
Yoel
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I actually heard of a guy in my
school who doesn't ever shower or goes weeks without showering, no deoderant at all, and he has all the girls all
over him. Some are very attracted to him, some are very turned off.
I guess you don't hang"If I could make my whole
clothed body constantly smell like my crotch, ass and pits normally do, which is sweet, woody and musky, I would
gladly do so, and am confident I would get positive reactions from people."
with Asian women much! The acceptence of certain types of human body odor differs depending on culture and race. I
live in Hawaii (you sweat like a pig year round!) and one nearly universal remark I've heard from girlfriends and
family is how offensive body smells of white and black men are to them. In fact the word gag is oft mentioned.
Incidentally, many Asians don't use deodorants or anti-perspirants (I don't seem to need it and it irritates my
pits). Whatever, most Asian women here insist their men are well scrubbed.
With all that said, I had a black
girlfriend whose pussy had a slight BO smell, something Asian women seem to lack. Whatever it was it drove me wild
and the slightest whif made me like the Rock of Gibraltar.
"I'm just a dirty hornytoad" -Gegogi
The Tantric Master from whom I
learned this lives in Asia. I've been laid in Hawaii, and by my share of Asian women. One of my most recent lovers
was Asian. Asians tend to love some kinds of musky smells and be less enamored with others; but not to reject these
smells all together. Nothing could be further from the truth.
You have to manage your external body
chemistry, and not just be unclean. Some don't seem to get the difference at all, and still think you have to wipe
out everything natural, and smell sanitary, like the back of a damn ambulance.There are a lot of factors to
consider, as I've said over and over.
Yet people over the years here sometimes retort with simplistic
statement like "That's BS. I hate smelly people -- they suck," (-- nothing personal, as I don't remember or care
who all said stuff like that.); as if this actually makes a point. Replying to that by repeating myself is a waste
of time, given all that I've written on this.
Even though there are different preferences; and different things
and degrees work for different people; no sane, informed, and objective person could think I was just full of shit
on this.
To update my thinking, the only thing I've changed is that I now acknowledge that phero
buildup from not washing off applied pheromones is the main downside; and must be considered. (Pheros is
an exception here) If you wear -mones on your wrist only, or on clothes, you can take off the mones without
stripping your body oils. Basically, you need to wash your application points just to avoid phero buildup.
DrSmellThis (creator of P H E R O S)
Forgive me for asking, but why is
Pheros an exception?
Jeez, do I bite, that you'd want "forgiveness" for asking? I
appreciate the question, Snoop!
I said that because Pheros has a balance of many things and no
abundance of any one chemical. So you don't get the buildup. That doesn't mean there'd never be buildup with
longer term use.
DrSmellThis (creator of P H E R O S)
I guess I wasn't just looking for
a "search the forums!" answer
It's so hard to do a search on Pheros because you always end up with a
billion threads on "pheros", short form for pheromones, rather than "Pheros" with a capital P. Like earlier, I was
searching for the pheremone contents of Pheros, and.. well I guess you could can smell what the next question is!
Sorry, thought I'd answered
your question.
I don't know the exact pheromone content. I did post copulin content once here (it was the
equivalent of a part of a drop of EW per bottle, maybe 2/7 (?), but I forget what I came up with -- I bet bjf
knows), but I'd have to redo the math. I don't know the -mone content for the other mones. All the mones sold at
love scent with the exception of b-nol and A1 are in there, but at like 1/100 the concentration of other products
sold here. So there are just trace amounts of the familiar ones. I just wanted to round out the profile, and make
the effect more human, not to get anyone "hits" from any individual -mone. Plus there are countless analog mones in
there, some as raw individual substances from the fragrance industry, and some as a part of a natural musk complex.
Then the essential oils themselves, which were heavily loaded on the aphrodisiacs, etc., also contain analog
pheromones in certain amounts. Plus, EO's are "psychoactive" in other ways. For instance, valerian is extremely
relaxing, and almond is intoxicating, but not necessarily due to "pheromones" per se, depending on your
definition of "pheromones".
I have actually written quite a bit on many various ingredients in Pheros
since April of this year (when the beta was released), so it's a shame your searches haven't turned up anything.
You can always search for the "Big News" and "Story of Pheros" threads. I do wish I had all my posts on
Pheros in one place, but am glad the "partial ingredient list" is spread out -- I never intended to just list
all the 150 ingredients anyway. Perfumers don't do that.
Mods or Webbie, can you do complex searches here, say
for my name and Pheros?
DrSmellThis (creator of P H E R O S)
I didn't say you were stuffed with poop. I merely"Even though there are
different preferences; and different things and degrees work for different people; no sane, informed, and objective
person could think I was just full of shit on this."
repeated what my female friends and family have said about the horrid body odors of tourist men...
Sure they do, but it's fairly rare among East Asians, e.g., Koreans (whom I mainly know). I know a"I've danced with a few
Asian women who don't use deoderant. Despite what Gegogi says, they DO have BO. I don't get off on it at
all."
Japanese woman with major BO--smells like a man's armpit after working out--but it's not as common as other races.
And, yes, it grosses me out. She's a great musician, so that sort of makes up for it.
Day one of the plan and and
although it's early doors, things seem OK.
I had a good workout and sweated a lot...hopefully I can keep this up
daily to try and get some toxins out of my system. Then, I showered thoroughly using a heavy cotton flannel to scrub
myself, steering clear of the soap. The only thing I did was wash my hair, but even then I reduced the amount of
shampoo as I've noticed if I don't shampoo for even one day, my head becomes seriously itchy. This, I do not find
natural, and I suspect my body has forgotten how to condition my head due to the constant application of unnecessary
shampoo. I dried myself with a towel and then applied 6 sprays of my experimental SPMO:TE mix @ 2.5:1 ratio. (I say
2.5:1 ratio but I mean 2.5 parts 'nol to 1 part 'none and not 2.5 parts SPMO to TE liquid...) Couple of sprays to
the 'pits, 2 (1 each side of neck), 1 spread between wrists and 1 on chest.
I went to visit a female friend of
mine about an hour later. She immediately commented that I smelled "gorgeous" and "What is that scent you're
wearing?" I just told her it was a standard musk fragrance. All day she couldn't stop sniffing me and kept on
demanding to "have another sniff of that stuff" She later hugged me when I went home and said it was just another
excuse to get a whiff of the aroma. I'm not interested in her, and neither her in me, we are truly just friends but
I've never seen her act like that before. I was pleased to get that kind of reaction.
I realise the smell of
the musk oil is the big thing here, but I did have a heavy workout, showering without soap just an hour or so
earlier. If you truly stink I don't think any fragrance is gonna hide the fact to a woman...they're like
bloodhounds. I know it's just one day but I'm feeling good about this recipe. I'll watch out for phero build up
from the natural 'mones and of course any really unpleasant stankification.
Going out tonight so I'll have
another bash at it!
"Some days will stay a thousand years, some pass like the flash of a spark...who knows where all our days go?"
Another day on the prog.
Same idea as before, workout, shower...no soap. No adverse reaction from anybody. Friends have seemed fine so far.
Staying in close proximity, no sign of anything bad at all. I'll keep going 'till I see a bad reaction
"Some days will stay a thousand years, some pass like the flash of a spark...who knows where all our days go?"
Your friends may tolerate a bad odor better than your relatives (who are less inclined to be
polite) or strangers (who are more likely to try to get away from you).
So far, I've had good results
with ladies (strangers too). Haven't spent much time with the family last couple of days. Might do so soon to watch
for a reaction.
"Some days will stay a thousand years, some pass like the flash of a spark...who knows where all our days go?"
You could just ask someone you
trust. Tell them you're experimenting with a trantric hygiene method (which you are). I just hope you guys who do
this sort of thing still wash your hands with soap and water. Remember, a lot of disease (flu, cold, stomach virus,
etc.) is passed around by hand contact. Rinsing with hot water once a day isn't going to prevent that. And
something like only 40-60% of American men practice good hand hygiene on a daily basis.
I discovered this thread only
today.
Like DrSmellThis, I have not used anti-persp or deodorant in 10 years. I shower with body wash every day.
I do not eat wheat or mammals. And many women have commented (even before I began playing with commercial
pheromones) that I smell good!
what is wrong with wheat?
Just a quick curiosity here.
You know, in Italy we usually eat pasta once or twice a day, and
I've never heard anyone complain about it before...or say it's unhealthy for that matter. I mean, _everyone_ eats
pasta here, and bread too.
So what's wrong with wheat?
Yoel
אני להיות לא באמת יהודי
A few people actually develop a condition which makes it impossible for
their bodies to digest wheat. I forget what it is called, but it is somewhat known throughout America.
On the
other hand, Americans tend to go their own ways about foods and other health matters. If one were to accept all the
hoopla at face value, one would have to conclude that the typical American should be diagnosed ADD (Attention
Deficit Disorder), has cancer, will likely develop diabetes, has no hair, needs Viagra or the equivalent in order to
have sex, cannot tolerate milk, etc.
We just like to make a really big fuss about our health problems. We also
complain about the price of gasoline with no intention of car-pooling or even the least amount of concern for the
fact that it costs about twice as much in Europe as it does here.
To be absolutely clear:
I
eat absolutely no wheat. That means not only no bread or pasta, but no battered greasy fried food, and not even soy
sauce, which often contains wheat.
I am not officially "gluten intolerant", but ceasing all wheat both made my
digestion much nicer and decreased the little bit of body fat I once had. I occasionally have some rice or oats, but
no corn, rye, or family (such as beer).
bjf,
I assume there is a
great deal of individual variability in the response to wheat (although it seems fattening disproportionate to its
nominal caloric content for everyone). My digestion and well-being are Much (!) better since I eliminated all (!!)
wheat a few years ago. Try the experiment for two weeks (but it must be 100% avoidance of wheat), and see if you
benefit.
what typical foods have wheat in it
(sorry, I'm dumb).
There is wheat and there is
wheat. A lot of so-called "wheat-based" foods are baked with enriched flour. Natural wheat foods are much
different.
Body odor is caused by the conversion of chemicals on the skin through bacterial interaction. If you
can keep the bacteria on your skin to a minimum, you'll have minimal body odor. There are people whose feet are so
rank, they have to spray themselves with disinfectants on a regular basis. I knew one guy, when I was a teenager,
whose feet were so bad the people he lived with insisted he spray them with a germicide every day (and he had to
spray his boots, too).
But, again, we don't notice our own body odors nearly as much (or as well) as other
people do. You have to rely on the feedback other people give you to know if you're doing okay. And you have to
keep in mind that different factors such as geography, social groups, situations, seasons, etc. come into play, as
well.
I have, for example, danced with many women. Some of them are really rank. Others smell great. And many
more are pretty neutral (to a man, at least -- but I have a poor sense of smell even compared to most men). Some of
those women (including Asians) have strong body odors if they go dancing straight from the gym, but on other
occasions (when they have had a chance to shower) they smell great or not at all. I don't know how much or what
kind of cleansing chemicals they use (soap, body wash, nothing).
A Chinese lady I know introduced me to a single
friend of her (another Chinese woman) a few months ago. The single friend was beautiful, and I was surprised she
was still looking after six months for someone to date. She was obviously being picky. But when I danced with her,
her BO was strong enough that the experience was unpleasant for me. I never danced with her again. And I only
lusted after her from afar....
Friendly1 et al,
I do not
eat any wheat, whether the bio or McWheat versions.
My experience with pheromones - to
much Anone cause more BO reactions that Anol and ARone - so if you want to avoid the stinky issue minimize the Anone
under the OD BO levels if that becoems and issue.
That said some women find a lot of Anone offensive others
are all over me - guess it comes down to what the majority find they cant tolerate - it comes down to
expeirence.
Im finding more than 6 sprays of perception is causing some neg reactions so ive settled in the
3-5 area - its fairly hot where i am (over 30c quite a bit) therefore to much cause me to sweat more. So minimize
that and Anti persperant in none pheromone applied areas helps as well.
I decided to give the less soap
more me plan just to see if I would get any positive benefits or at the least no negative ones. Rather than go
completely into, I decided to try a minimalist approach (as in a semi-soaper). I am still using shampoo, and I still
use soap to clean the face and the genitals, but I am just using water to rinse off everyday and exfoliating twice a
week. As far as Deodorant is concerned I quit using a roll-on antipersperant and deodorant and switched to a spray
on deordorant only and have reduced the amount I use to just one spray per armpit. Its been 3 days and so far
nothing negative (I have always worked out for at least 1 hour day minimum of 3 days per week). I will let you all
know what happens after a few more days.
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