The super sexual :o (but still friendly) mix

[pico]

OK:
MIX 1= SOE : NPA/m : NPA/w : PI at 6:2:2:1
MIX 2= WAGG : NPA/m : NPA/w : PI at 4:2:2:1

I have a feeling

these are killer mixes

time for testing, I get npa/w in a few days!
any thoughts?!

[bjf]

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OK:
MIX 1= SOE : NPA/m : NPA/w : PI

at 6:2:2:1
MIX 2= WAGG : NPA/m : NPA/w : PI at 4:2:2:1

I have a feeling these are killer mixes

time for

testing, I get npa/w in a few days!
any thoughts?!

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Number 2

doesn\'t seem right. Don\'t think you need that much wagg at all.

[Skyy]

geee MIX 2 looks very similar to my old mix [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]

[Holmes]

That\'s a really good mix.


Holmes

[CJ01]

Why do you want to use both NPAs pico? Any particular reason?

[bigdog]

I agree. I choose SOE in lieu of NPA/W. Or even better jsut use less NPA and save some $. I think those

that getting the women version are wasting money.

[OCP]

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I agree. I choose SOE in lieu of NPA/W.

Or even better jsut use less NPA and save some $. I think those that getting the women version are wasting money.



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Why? Is NPA/w basically SOE under another name?

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[bigdog]

No. I just think the nol &amp; other ingredients in SOE would work better attracting women than a

product like NPA/W which is designed to attract men

[CJ01]

here we go again...... it doesn´t matter which version you use! Moners need to understand this.
I´m

just thinking that picos suggested mixes may be too strong. Very heavy on the none. Do you reckon that you need a

good amount of none pico? Remember that SOE also contains rone and rone enhances the effects of nol and none. SO

when mixing with strong none products such as both NPAs or PI it would be a better idea to go lighter on these. If

you need more you can always increase the dose.

[pico]

Ok in reply:

to bjf: wagg works wonders in neutralising the none and making it friendly. Do you

think 4 is unneccessary?? I\'ver used lots of wagg before always with good results

holmes: which mix is really

good...thanks for the compliment

CJ01: well npa/m and npa/w really complement each other (apparently from what

i\'ve read) at 1:1 ratio. npa/w contains another secret ingredient that npa/m doesn\'t, and with Bruce\'s new

wacky wednesday thing, I\'ve ordered two bottles of npa/w (i\'ve got 5 bottles of npa/m already!!!)

bigdog:

npa/w is very different from SOE, and npa is relatively cheap, especially with the current wacky wednesday offer

(will you please stop tempting me bruce! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

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[pico]

OK: here are the percentages of mix 1,
that is, 6 SOE : 2 Npa/m : 2Npa/w : 1Pi
None =

44.6%
Nol = 44.3%
Rone = 11.1%

these were calculated with the pheromone mix calculator (i assumed npa/m

and npa/w had the same amount of none.

so as we can see, this mix is very well balanced, with equal amounts

of nol and none, and a small amount of rone.

I will be able to test this mix in a few days....oh yeah! bring

it on [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

CJ, you said that rone enhances the effect of none

and nol. Well I could use a different ratio by upping the SOE slightly....
also I use soe gel packs, and 6 drops

of SOE equals 1 gel pack.
Therefore I will make the mix of 2Npa/w:2Npa/m:1Pi and use three drops of this per

application with a whole SOE gel pack.
what do you think? does this sound right? thanks a million...

[CptKipling]

The second person to post that mix this week! (unless posted it before)

[bjf]

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Ok in reply:

to bjf: wagg works

wonders in neutralising the none and making it friendly. Do you think 4 is unneccessary?? I\'ver used lots of wagg

before always with good results



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Pico, in some of the

reading I have done, it seems like some people were thinking at a certain point adding a lot is pointless. Some

even believe in adding a dab or two - less than a drop - to their mix.

In my experimentations with it, it

really is hard to understand what is doing what, there are so many variables. But I\'m still inclined to believe

it is better as a smaller component of the mix, though I am sure mxes with it as a base can get good hits too.




Also, the calculator is all wrong about Lacroy products, as they are only half none.

[Skyy]

Do a search under me, frenchie or proteus We have experimented tons with npa/w and it has proven

results (for us anyways) A 1:1 ratio is best with added WAGG, I used to use PI/m but found out by adding an extra

dab or 2 or 3 of NPA/m is better than using PI/m,

Right now my killer mixes with restuls are:

1 spray of Heat,

1 spray of Te/w (On upper chest) 1 dab of heat on chin with 2 drops of AE/M (behind ears)

Also

Heat &amp; Te/w

1 spray to each pit plus 2-3 drops of WAGG

[CptKipling]

WAGG is very hard to use in a complex mix; NPA and WAGG is ok; NPAm/w and WAGG is ok; but anything else

is more complicated.

I think there is too much WAGG aswell, 2 or 3 would be better.

[Skyy]

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WAGG is very hard to use in a complex

mix

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Im not sure what you meant by this, but I guess at either



A) your suggesting its best applied separately
B) or your like me and dont like the wagg+nol combo?

I did

try the wkm version with wagg minus the SoE mixed up and I wasnt to happy with the results

I really like wagg,

but I cant have it applied anywhere within direct breathing range, and when its all mixed up you almost have to hit

the pulse points in neck/chin area

[Skyy]

IIRC Npa/w contains A LOT less none from the male version

[OCP]

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Do a search under me, frenchie or

proteus We have experimented tons with npa/w and it has proven results (for us anyways) A 1:1 ratio is best with

added WAGG, I used to use PI/m but found out by adding an extra dab or 2 or 3 of NPA/m is better than using PI/m,




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I think I understand, but to be clear are you saying that 3 dabs

of NPA is better than 1 drop of PI/m? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[bjf]

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IIRC Npa/w contains A LOT less none

from the male version

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Definitely!!!

[bigdog]

I just don\'t see WAGG and NPA/w as being very successful attracting women sexually. I have had

better success with SOE with women than WAGG. WAGG seems more to make guys comfortable, and often too comfortable,

with me. With friends I use WAGG but not at bars. TE,NPA,AE much better for me attracting women sexually. Also

adding SOE at times.

[Skyy]

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Do a search under me, frenchie or proteus We have experimented tons with

npa/w and it has proven results (for us anyways) A 1:1 ratio is best with added WAGG, I used to use PI/m but

found out by adding an extra dab or 2 or 3 of NPA/m is better than using PI/m,


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I think I understand, but to be clear are you saying that 3 dabs of NPA is better than 1 drop

of PI/m? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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For

me yes, I used to love PI that was untill i started experimenting with lacroys products. npa/te is proven for raw

sexual hits.

[OCP]

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Do a search

under me, frenchie or proteus We have experimented tons with npa/w and it has proven results (for us anyways) A

1:1 ratio is best with added WAGG, I used to use PI/m but found out by adding an extra dab or 2 or 3 of NPA/m is

better than using PI/m,


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I think I understand, but to be clear

are you saying that 3 dabs of NPA is better than 1 drop of PI/m? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]



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For me yes, I used to love PI that was untill i started

experimenting with lacroys products. npa/te is proven for raw sexual hits.

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What do you think of 1 drop PI/m and 3 dabs of NPA/m with either SOE or WAGG? Too much NONE?

[CJ01]

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CJ, you said that rone enhances the

effect of none and nol. Well I could use a different ratio by upping the SOE slightly....
also I use soe gel

packs, and 6 drops of SOE equals 1 gel pack.
Therefore I will make the mix of 2Npa/w:2Npa/m:1Pi and use three

drops of this per application with a whole SOE gel pack.
what do you think? does this sound right? thanks a

million...



<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\"> pico, a different ratio is a good idea but I´d start

without the PI. NPA is very strong none already plus the èxtra´ingredients and PI seems almost pointless, PI/w

would be better I reckon. Do let us know when you tried whatever mix though.
I hope you got the unscented SOE.

I´d start with half a pack and if you feel you need more you can use the rest to freshen up and also spread it well.

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[Skyy]

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Do a search under me, frenchie or proteus We

have experimented tons with npa/w and it has proven results (for us anyways) A 1:1 ratio is best with added WAGG,

I used to use PI/m but found out by adding an extra dab or 2 or 3 of NPA/m is better than using PI/m,


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I think I understand, but to be clear are you saying that 3 dabs of NPA is

better than 1 drop of PI/m? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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For me yes, I used to love PI that was untill i started experimenting with lacroys products.

npa/te is proven for raw sexual hits.

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What do you think of 1 drop

PI/m and 3 dabs of NPA/m with either SOE or WAGG? Too much NONE?

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well 4 dabs = 1 drop so just do 1 drop of npa with whatevr u like then.

I cant say if its to

much or to little, we each have our own limits along with different body chemestry.

What mix have you used which

yielded you with the best results application wise?

[bjf]

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CJ, you said that rone enhances the effect of none and nol. Well I could use

a different ratio by upping the SOE slightly....
also I use soe gel packs, and 6 drops of SOE equals 1 gel pack.


Therefore I will make the mix of 2Npa/w:2Npa/m:1Pi and use three drops of this per application with a whole SOE

gel pack.
what do you think? does this sound right? thanks a million...



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class=\"post\"> pico, a different ratio is a good idea but I´d start without the PI. NPA is very strong none

already plus the èxtra´ingredients and PI seems almost pointless, PI/w would be better I reckon. Do let us know

when you tried whatever mix though.
I hope you got the unscented SOE. I´d start with half a pack and if you feel

you need more you can use the rest to freshen up and also spread it well.

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Yea,

sometimes whipping up all sorts of products has diminishing returns.

My guess with Lacroy\'s 1:1 ratio is

that they wanted a minimum amount of secret ingredients on you say if you choose to wear .005 none. However, for

people choosing to wear .015 none, having .015 secret ingredients isn\'t necessarily beneficial. You may not need

all those secret ingredients and someone once posted something from Lacroy saying it was easy to OD on the secrets

and no more than four dabs of TE was needed (which is way less than a spray, so why did they put it in a spray?).



However, if they made it a 3:2 ratio or a 2:1 ratio of none:secrets for the .015 none scenarios, than guys

who prefer to wear less - ie .005 none - may not get the minimum amount of the secret ingredients Lacroy felt was

necessary to keep the aggression signal of none in check.

Many forum members (many who wear .015) have taken

to using another none source that is pure in combination with Lacroy products because they do not like the 1:1

ratio.

The above theory is the only case that I can think of where both parties are on legitimate ground for

believing in their ratio.

[CptKipling]

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WAGG is very hard to use in a complex mix

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Im not sure what you meant by this, but I guess at either

A) your suggesting its best

applied separately
B) or your like me and dont like the wagg+nol combo?

I did try the wkm version with wagg

minus the SoE mixed up and I wasnt to happy with the results

I really like wagg, but I cant have it applied

anywhere within direct breathing range, and when its all mixed up you almost have to hit the pulse points in

neck/chin area

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Both, actually.

I have decided that it is

often better to mix all of your aggressive products (NPA, PI, other -none products) separately from your

friendly/comforting products (WAGG, SPMO[mainly because of scent clashes], SOE[sometimes], V-5[sometimes], AE[very

occasionally, usually with SOE]). This is probably be because you wouldn\'t find them in the same places in

nature.

Aggressive products go best in/on: pits, crotch, chest, below ears/jawline/chin, hair etc.



Friendly/comforting products go best: Between wrists, neck, jaw, nape of neck etc.

I also get the feeling

that WAGG doesn\'t get much of a \"voice\" in more complex mixes. My opinion, best dabbed on or in simple mixes

with -none products.