If you gain 5
lbs of solid muscle in a month then you are doing really good. 10 to 15 lbs sounds unreasonable unless you are
really boosting your testosterone (ie with anabolic steroids). All those supplements may make a marginal
difference.
I just decided
what my new bodybuilding stack for the next month or so is going to be and I thought I would share it with you guys.
I was wondering, what supplements do you guys take?
I expect to gain about 10-15 pounds of muscle within the
next month or so with my high intensity training and this
stack.
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Mass Attack
Stack
Morning
• R-ALA (before meal)
• Fuel Injection V-12 (before meal)
• Vitamin B12
• NoX3 (3 Tablets)
• CLA Powder 4g
• Fish Oil Powder 4g
• Prolabs Pro Complex Protein
• Vitamin B5 Complex*
• BCAA Tablet (1800mg)
• Zinc Tablet*
• Tablets (1800mg)
(Non-Workout Days)
Lunch
• R-ALA (before meal)
Afternoon
• Prolabs Pro Complex
Protein
• Vitamin B5 complex*
• NoX3 (3 Tablets)
Dinner
• R-ALA (before
meal)
Pre-Workout
• ZMA HP
• BCAA tablets (1800mg)
• Nox3 (1 Tablet)*
• Fuel
Injection V-12
Post-Workout
• Glutamine 10g
• Prolabs Pro Complex Protein (1/2
Serving)
Before Bed
• ZMASS PM
• Micellar Matrix Protein
• Glutamine 10g
• Fish
Oil Powder 4g
• CLA Powder 4g
• Multi-Vitamin
• Vitamin B5
Complex*
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Supplemental Facts
R-ALA - Main ingredient
in Glucorell. Keep insulin levels low, keeps me from putting on excess carbs as fat and puts them towards my muscles
instead
Fuel Injection V-12 - Fuel Injection V12 is one of the next generations in creatine products. The
birth of V12 from SAN Nutrition represents what is the most versatile ergogenic and physique altering product ever
formulated.
Vitamin B12- It is also required for proper digestion, the synthesis of proteins, and the
metabolism of carbohydrates and fats. Required for healthy nerve fibers. Plays important role in energy production,
immune and central nervous system function, and in Folic Acid metabolism. Prevents the accumulation of homocysteine
in the blood. Helps with fatigue, general weakness, mood swings, even appetite loss
NoX3- (L-Arginine), Who
doesn’t want a massive pump during and after your workout. Produces Nitric Oxide.
CLA Powder - Awesome for
keeping fat off. Also has immune system improving characteristics.
Fish Oil Powder - Good fats. Good for your
skin, hair, just about everything.
Prolabs Pro Complex Protein – Awesome protein powder with unparalleled
amino acid profile. 55g Protein PER SERVING!
ZMA HP - A Zinc Magnesium Asparate product. Can be taken before
a workout or before bed, boosts testosterone.
BCAA tablets (1800mg) - Branch Chain Amino Acids. These are the
building blocks of big muscle. Look at it this way Aminos -> Protein -> Muscles
Glutamine - Helps with
recovery, boosts growth hormone 430%, along with
ZMASS PM - Another Zinc Magnesium Aspartate product but this
one is formulated especially to be taken before bed. Boosts Testosterone, lean muscle grown, and enhances
sleep!
Micellar Matrix - A blend of slowly absorbed proteins to take before going to bed so your body has a
constant supply of protein during sleep.
Zinc Tablet- Promotes healthy skin
Vitamin B5- Promotes
healthy skin
Enjoy! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]
If you gain 5
lbs of solid muscle in a month then you are doing really good. 10 to 15 lbs sounds unreasonable unless you are
really boosting your testosterone (ie with anabolic steroids). All those supplements may make a marginal
difference.
I don\'t
know if this is true or not and I don\'t want to burst anyone\'s bubble, but I heard you can\'t safely gain
more than ~25 lbs. of muscle in a year (unless you used steroids, I guess). I can\'t confirm this, so don\'t
take it as concrete.
If you do gain 15
pounds of muscle in a month, you\'ll be rading the stretch marks thread...
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If you do gain 15 pounds of muscle in a month,
you\'ll be rading the stretch marks thread...
<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\"> worse than that! 15
pounds of fat or muscle and there won´t be a chance to read that thread, it´s off to the hospital!!
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Let me
begin by saying that I\'m certainly no expert on the subject and not really into the whole body building scene.
I\'m a \"hard gainer\" who was turned onto a product that was reputed to add 10# of muscle in 30 days, w/ a
money back gaurantee iirc. It contained \"flavones\" instead of anabolic steriods and is supposed to give the
same results w/out the side effects. It\'s made by Cytodyne and it\'s called MethoxyPro. I used it along w/
ZMA.
I decided to give it a try. I did notice that even w/out using a really aggressive workout regimen that I
did gain very close to 10# of muscle in about a month. No noticable weight gain elsewhere and no side
effects.
The thing is, I hit a plateau at the 30 day mark w/ no significant gains over the following two months.
I don\'t know if it\'s just me or the product. Like I said, I\'m a hard gainer. Overall I was pleased w/ the
results. I eventually stopped using it since I wasn\'t seeing any new gains. By the end of the 4th month, I was
just about back to square one though.
Apparently, it is possible to make such gains in the short term. Beyond
that I couldn\'t say.
With
that amount of supplementation, it had to cost hundreds of dollars a month for pills and powder. How much did all
that stuff cost? Was it worth the price for temporary gains?
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Let me begin by saying that I\'m certainly no
expert on the subject and not really into the whole body building scene. I\'m a \"hard gainer\" who was turned
onto a product that was reputed to add 10# of muscle in 30 days, w/ a money back gaurantee iirc. It contained
\"flavones\" instead of anabolic steriods and is supposed to give the same results w/out the side effects.
It\'s made by Cytodyne and it\'s called MethoxyPro. I used it along w/ ZMA.
I decided to give it a try. I did
notice that even w/out using a really aggressive workout regimen that I did gain very close to 10# of muscle in
about a month. No noticable weight gain elsewhere and no side effects.
The thing is, I hit a plateau at the 30
day mark w/ no significant gains over the following two months. I don\'t know if it\'s just me or the product.
Like I said, I\'m a hard gainer. Overall I was pleased w/ the results. I eventually stopped using it since I
wasn\'t seeing any new gains. By the end of the 4th month, I was just about back to square one
though.
Apparently, it is possible to make such gains in the short term. Beyond that I couldn\'t say.
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Well, I\'m just a delicate little woman, who wants to stay firm
and tight, but not gain. I REALLY love Nitro Exrterme 92. All the protiend, plus 10 g of glutamine, to boost HGH
production. That and 5 g of creatine per day is all I need.
Imagine 15 lbs.
of ground up meat spread out onto a table. Isn\'t that a lot of tissue for your body to synthize? Half the money
for them supplements would probably be better spent on some extra food. Like some all-natural PB, eggs, milk,
steak, chicken, etc. you know the classics.
Dead right.
DefconX3, you\'re crazy! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
If you wanna bulk up, you can take whey protein + creatine...
you would gain lean mass in a safer way.
Anyway, I did gain about 15 pounds in 2 - 3 months without taking any
kind of supplement. I just went to the gym 2-3 times per week and had a good nourishment.
Great! But
let\'s not forget about genetics and the important role they play. Some people might need more of a \"boost\"
than others, ya know?
Holmes
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Great! But let\'s not forget about genetics and
the important role they play. Some people might need more of a \"boost\" than others, ya know?
Holmes
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Great! But you could tell us what you mean with \"boost\".
This guy pretends to use a \"going to the moon rocket boost\"!! That\'s ridiculous! There are safer ways, ya
know? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
LOL yeah, true.
By \"boost\" I just meant something in addition to diet alone. And, incidentally, by \"Great!\" I was indicating
that I was genuinely happy to hear of your success. (Where\'s the love, I tell ya...)
Some Glutamine, Creatine,
and protein powder should be more than enough.
Holmes
Hello
everyone,
It seems I have been away from this thread for quite some time now and I have a lot of questions and
comments to respond to..
I would like to, first of all, tell how things are going so far, I have currently gained
about 8 lbs, 6 of which I think is muscle, the other 2 from water retention. My muscles are definately
getting much larger. People at school are noticing a difference and my parents thought that the stuff I was taking
was steroids [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]. I
have to say though that I am probably somewhat genetically gifted because I have always had the most muscle mass out
of anyone in the family. So far I am very pleased.
A lot of people are commenting that 15 lbs in one month is
unreasonable without the use of steroids. It could be considered to be true, if you were already bodybuilding for a
few years and have hit a plateau. I have been bodybuilding seriously for about a month and a half, which means that
I am still prown for the huge \"newbie gains\". Also, like I said, I think I am one of the \"genetically
gifted\" I know one person who has been bodybuilding for about 6 months and I have to say that I have more muscle
mass then him already. I have been changing my diet signifigantly and I only drink water, no sodas, and I try to get
at least a gallon of water a day. (Actually I am drinking a cup of water right now
[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]) I make sure to eat 5-6 smaller meals a day to keep my metabolism
up and body full of nutrients. The carbohydrates that I take in are high quality ones such as the ones from the oat
and grain family, and I try to eat good foods.
Expecting 15 lbs of growth from only supplementation and a sloppy
weightlifting plan would be ridiculous. I think that battle for bulk is fought like this: 1/3 foods, 1/3 work and
rest, and 1/3 the mind. One of the things that many beginning bodybuilders, and what proabably caught your eye, is
that they forget how powerful the mind really is. Arnold schwarzenegger (though we all know he took steroids), and
Bill Perl among others are very big advocates of building muscle with the mind. Concentrating on visualizing your
muscles growing to unbelievable sizes is the key to actually having them become unbelievably big, according to them.
I, for one, think that they are right. Anyways, I am up to try anything that will help give me the edge without
compromising health.
I think I have all of my bases covered and I am ready for large mass gains, and I am
starting to experience them. You guys can too.
I hope I helped clear some things up.
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DefconX3, you\'re crazy!
[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
If you wanna
bulk up, you can take whey protein + creatine... you would gain lean mass in a safer way.
Anyway, I did gain
about 15 pounds in 2 - 3 months without taking any kind of supplement. I just went to the gym 2-3 times per week and
had a good nourishment.
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But, be careful with the creatine. Can
make one bloated and crampy.
I am actually
very happy with my creatine, Fuel injection V-12 by SAN. I have noticed minimal water retention and it is really
starting to kick in, big pumps, big gains. But then again, I am taking a lot of other things too, but I really like
it. It even tastes pretty good, I have the fruit punch flavored kind.
Edit: One word of caution though,
especially if you are a younger user, make sure to drink plenty of water, you would not want to stress your
kidneys.
.......among
others are very big advocates of building muscle with the mind. Concentrating on visualizing your muscles growing to
unbelievable sizes is the key to actually having them become unbelievably big, according to them. I, for one, think
that they are right........
I should try that with my penis. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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I should try that with my penis.
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But then,
wouldn\'t it become a threat to Neo-Tokyo?
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I should try that with my penis.
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But then,
wouldn\'t it become a threat to Neo-Tokyo?
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Penis-jokes? that is so grown up.
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[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
----BigBadBear
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[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]
You must excuse
Ssssssst. He has \"issues\" that we try not to bring up. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
That\'s not
fair!
Hey Bear. I don\'t always make jokes about the penis.
Just sometimes.
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Welcome to the
board, nice hat!
Steve
Thank
you
but where has my picture gone? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
-----BigBadBear
boohoo!
oh
well... here\'s a better one anyway [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]
[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]
-----BigBadBear [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]
[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]
I am not seeing
any pictures.
I had a hat!
Icrus saw it!
But it stopped working, so now you get a fullfrntal
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[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]
[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]
hugs
---------BigBadBear
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where IS IT then?
Don´t tease us like this [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
I saw the other
one, and I can see this one. He\'s standing there looking kinda mean.
Wonder why nobody else can see it.
Should I be scared?
Steve
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