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    Default Sternberg\'s Triarchic Theory of Love & Pheromones

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    Everyone\'s getting a Penn State psychology minor from reading all of my posts...only

    you didn\'t pay $7K/semester to go to these classes...

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    From the Matching Hypothesis

    Thread:

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    does it die

    if i don\'t wear the pheromones? that\'s hard to say. i think pheromones can also cause a sort of bonding that

    wouldn\'t just melt away when you stop using them. but i think this is highly dependant on the type of product one

    is using. more sexual products like npa/te tend in my opinion to create relationships that will die if you don\'t

    use the pheros anymore. on the other hand, wagg is much more bonding, and i think it creates a lasting bonding that

    wouldn\'t die (at least not so fast) if you stop using it.
    i use different products on purpose with different

    women according to what sort of relationship i am looking for. if i just want something quick and sexual that

    wouldn\'t last long, i would mostly use te. if i want something longer and deeper with feelings, i would use

    something which is less heavy on none and has a considerable amount of nol, something like attraction maybe, and

    then also wagg.

    <hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    Why can\'t you use both, ie a lot of nol

    and te, for sexual and bonding? Do you find that amounts are unimportant, but rather ratios between the sexual and

    bonding pheromones make the difference?

    <hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    well if i want the

    sexual relationship, i might also use some nol to make things more relaxed. but if i want something lasting, i would

    not use te/npa even not with a lot of nol. at least not at the begining when the relationships is in creation. when

    i wear te/npa (even with other products) i feel that takes out the wild side in the woman and make almost all other

    sides disappear. i feel that she herself wants me just for the sex. this is something on which one cannot build a

    lasting relationship. a few months max. then you have to have other things in the relationship which i feel are lost

    with te/npa. but this is just my experience, it could be different for others.
    markus


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    /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    This is an interesting argument. Why? Because it touches on

    Sternberg\'s Triangular Model:

    (Note: sorry if this looks funny, but it\'s the only way I could get it to

    keep the shape of a friggin\' triangle...

    [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img])

    |___________________Intimacy
    |______________________/\

    \
    |_____________________/-- \\
    |_____________Passion_/____\\ Commitment

    The model shows three

    aspects to love: Intimacy, Passion, and Commitment.

    Nonlove: Casual Interactions
    Intimacy only = Liking;

    Friendships
    Passion only = Infatuation; \"Love at first sight\", sexual attraction
    Commitment only = Empty

    Love; \"Staying together for the kids\"
    Intimacy + Passion = Romantic Love; Summer fling
    Intimacy +

    Commitment = Companionate Love; Passionless Marriage, Older couples, Lifetime companionship
    Passion + Commitment

    = Fatuous Love; \"Whirlwind Courtship\" (best recent example: Bennifer: Passion and engagement to be married, but

    too much media-frenzy to get close)
    Intimacy + Passion + Commitment = Consumate Love; Complete Love, Most

    difficult to attain


    Now, I think most people would argue that pheromones in this model would be a

    passion jumpstart (much like myself [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]) in this example. This

    allows for the sexual chemistry/attraction to skyrocket between people. Now, I believe the above argument would say

    that sexual -mones such as TE would be more likely to crank up the passion and allow for some major sexual hits...

    However, when they wear off, it is likely that the passion may dissipate, which would lead to nothing being there to

    keep the flame burning. On the other hand, using WAGG may allow for an intimacy overhaul where the closeness

    between the two people can be increased as well as any passion that may be there. Therefore, if the passion fades

    slightly from the removal of -mones from the pictures, you will still have that intimacy that you developed before,

    thus leading to a better chance at a solid relationship. I believe that is what the argument above was trying to

    say using the terms of this model.

    One may also argue that TE or similar products will increase the passion,

    and with your charm, wit, and intelligence can allow you to develop the intimacy, etc. needed to build a serious

    relationship. However, the previous argument would say that this is harder due to the fact that you don\'t have

    any assistance of \"intimacy\" -mones.

    Question: How do you feel one can use knowledge of the Triangular

    Model to your advantage? Do you think you can attempt to \"jumpstart\" a relationship by combining -mones and

    your clever wit to develop a better relationship with an attractive man/woman?

    Does this help anyone use

    their -mones more effectively, or am I just wasting my time?

    I hope this brings some more help to people

    regarding -mone use...


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    Default Re: Sternberg\'s Triarchic Theory of Love & Pheromones

    </font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
    Everyone\'s getting a

    Penn State psychology minor from reading all of my posts...only you didn\'t pay $7K/semester to go to these

    classes... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

    From the Matching Hypothesis

    Thread:

    </font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
    </font><blockquote><font

    class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
    </font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
    does it die

    if i don\'t wear the pheromones? that\'s hard to say. i think pheromones can also cause a sort of bonding that

    wouldn\'t just melt away when you stop using them. but i think this is highly dependant on the type of product one

    is using. more sexual products like npa/te tend in my opinion to create relationships that will die if you don\'t

    use the pheros anymore. on the other hand, wagg is much more bonding, and i think it creates a lasting bonding that

    wouldn\'t die (at least not so fast) if you stop using it.
    i use different products on purpose with different

    women according to what sort of relationship i am looking for. if i just want something quick and sexual that

    wouldn\'t last long, i would mostly use te. if i want something longer and deeper with feelings, i would use

    something which is less heavy on none and has a considerable amount of nol, something like attraction maybe, and

    then also wagg.

    <hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    Why can\'t you use both, ie a lot of nol and

    te, for sexual and bonding? Do you find that amounts are unimportant, but rather ratios between the sexual and

    bonding pheromones make the difference?

    <hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    well if i want the sexual

    relationship, i might also use some nol to make things more relaxed. but if i want something lasting, i would not

    use te/npa even not with a lot of nol. at least not at the begining when the relationships is in creation. when i

    wear te/npa (even with other products) i feel that takes out the wild side in the woman and make almost all other

    sides disappear. i feel that she herself wants me just for the sex. this is something on which one cannot build a

    lasting relationship. a few months max. then you have to have other things in the relationship which i feel are lost

    with te/npa. but this is just my experience, it could be different for others.
    markus


    <hr

    /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    This is an interesting argument. Why? Because it touches on

    Sternberg\'s Triangular Model:

    (Note: sorry if this looks funny, but it\'s the only way I could get it to

    keep the shape of a friggin\' triangle...

    [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img])

    |___________________Intimacy
    |______________________/\\
    |_

    ____________________/-- \\
    |_____________Passion_/____\\ Commitment

    The model shows three aspects to love:

    Intimacy, Passion, and Commitment.

    Nonlove: Casual Interactions
    Intimacy only = Liking; Friendships
    Passion

    only = Infatuation; \"Love at first sight\", sexual attraction
    Commitment only = Empty Love; \"Staying together

    for the kids\"
    Intimacy + Passion = Romantic Love; Summer fling
    Intimacy + Commitment = Companionate Love;

    Passionless Marriage, Older couples, Lifetime companionship
    Passion + Commitment = Fatuous Love; \"Whirlwind

    Courtship\" (best recent example: Bennifer: Passion and engagement to be married, but too much media-frenzy to get

    close)
    Intimacy + Passion + Commitment = Consumate Love; Complete Love, Most difficult to attain


    Now, I think

    most people would argue that pheromones in this model would be a passion jumpstart (much like myself

    [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]) in this example. This allows for the sexual chemistry/attraction

    to skyrocket between people. Now, I believe the above argument would say that sexual -mones such as TE would be

    more likely to crank up the passion and allow for some major sexual hits... However, when they wear off, it is

    likely that the passion may dissipate, which would lead to nothing being there to keep the flame burning. On the

    other hand, using WAGG may allow for an intimacy overhaul where the closeness between the two people can be

    increased as well as any passion that may be there. Therefore, if the passion fades slightly from the removal of

    -mones from the pictures, you will still have that intimacy that you developed before, thus leading to a better

    chance at a solid relationship. I believe that is what the argument above was trying to say using the terms of this

    model.

    One may also argue that TE or similar products will increase the passion, and with your charm, wit, and

    intelligence can allow you to develop the intimacy, etc. needed to build a serious relationship. However, the

    previous argument would say that this is harder due to the fact that you don\'t have any assistance of

    \"intimacy\" -mones.

    Question: How do you feel one can use knowledge of the Triangular Model to your advantage?

    Do you think you can attempt to \"jumpstart\" a relationship by combining -mones and your clever wit to develop a

    better relationship with an attractive man/woman?

    Does this help anyone use their -mones more effectively, or am

    I just wasting my time?

    I hope this brings some more help to people regarding -mone use...




    [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]Pancho [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]



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    Cool post, sweetie! I have two degrees in theis [censored], and

    didn\'t know about Sternberg.

    And, I thought you were nothing more than a pretty face! &lt;g&gt;

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    Default Re: Sternberg\'s Triarchic Theory of Love & Pheromones

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    And, I thought you were

    nothing more than a pretty face! &lt;g&gt;

    <hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    \"When someone tells

    me I\'m smarter than I look...I can\'t decide whether it\'s an insult or a compliment...\" ---

    Ziggy

    [sarcasm]Well, I wasn\'t able to graduate in 3 1/2 years from a [mocking]presitigious university

    [/mocking] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img] with a 4.0 in my psychology minor for no reason...

    [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img][/sarcasm]

    Seriously, though, I have to say that that is the

    first time ANYONE has ever said that to me... I\'m usually considered the really intelligent dork...I mean, I AM

    a dork...everyone gets that part right... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]...but usually a smart

    one with so-so looks instead of a \'pretty\' one with so-so intelligence...

    [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

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    Default Re: Sternberg\'s Triarchic Theory of Love & Pheromones

    Didn\'t Donald Trump buy Maslow\'s Pyramid?


    Holmes

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    Didn\'t Donald Trump buy

    Maslow\'s Pyramid?


    Holmes

    <hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    Yes, and he applied for the

    proper patents, trademarks, and copyrights. All psychologists must now refer to the hierarchy as so:

    Trump\'s

    Hierarchy of Needs

    *****Marrying Hot Chick Who Tries To Take Your Money*****
    |||||||______Making Even More

    Money__________
    ||||||____Dumping Old Hot Chicks for New Ones______
    |||||_____________Making More

    Money______________
    ||||_______________Getting Hot Chicks_________________
    _____________________Making

    Money___________________________

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    [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img] Hey, that sounds like my

    Hierarchy Of Needs (with food thrown in there somewhere, maybe).

    Seriously, though, I heard he turned the Pyramid

    into a casino.


    Holmes

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    Interesting post.

    Now if the removal of pheros can be equated w/ diminished passion,

    then why wouldn\'t it also be equated w/ diminished intimacy? According to this model, Intimacy + Passsion =

    Romantic Love. However, Intimacy w/out passion leaves one in the \"friends zone\", correct. Wouldn\'t that

    kinda defeat the purpose? A \"relationship\" w/out Intimacy or Passion = Casual Interactions (Nonlove).

    Therefore, applying pheros to this model would mean that no pheros leaves you w/ merely Casual Interactions. Who

    wants that? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

    Certainly a compelling model, neatly packaged. I

    guess for me the problem is that such models are neatly packaged, but life is messy. I\'m not so sure that phero

    use (or lack thereof) and the issue of relationships is all that cut and dried.

    You see, this is what

    happens when you ppl make me start thinking. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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    Default Re: Sternberg\'s Triarchic Theory of Love & Pheromones

    That is really funny [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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    Default Re: Sternberg\'s Triarchic Theory of Love & Pheromones

    </font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
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    class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
    Didn\'t Donald Trump buy Maslow\'s Pyramid?


    Holmes

    <hr

    /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    Yes, and he applied for the proper patents, trademarks, and copyrights.

    All psychologists must now refer to the hierarchy as so:

    Trump\'s Hierarchy of Needs

    *****Marrying Hot Chick

    Who Tries To Take Your Money*****
    |||||||______Making Even More Money__________
    ||||||____Dumping Old Hot Chicks

    for New Ones______
    |||||_____________Making More Money______________
    ||||_______________Getting Hot

    Chicks_________________
    _____________________Making Money___________________________

    <hr

    /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">


    This is really funny [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img].


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    Kari, you probably haven\'t heard of Sternberg because he\'s usually only taught in

    human relations (touchy feely, community college) type psych courses -- not the traditional academic kind.

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    </font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
    Kari, you probably

    haven\'t heard of Sternberg because he\'s usually only taught in human relations (touchy feely, community

    college) type psych courses -- not the traditional academic kind.

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    class=\"post\">

    Are you calling my college a community college!?!?!?!?

    [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

    Seriously, though, I learned about it in two classes:

    Personality Psychology and Psychology of Adjustment. I didn\'t hear a thing about it in Child Psychology,

    Psychological Research, and Cognitive Psychology.

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    Just stating statistical realities. No offense intended.

    [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img] But Adjustment is a human relations type course. Most

    personality theory courses wouldn\'t cover Sternberg, as he\'s a \'minor player\'.

    [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

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    *Bump*

    This is when I

    actually had interesting ideas to contribute...

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    DST will you stop this and

    get back to the bottles!!!! You have no time for this - bottles, bottles, only bottles!!!!

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    This was a long time ago,

    koolie!

    That was a great thread, Pancho. Good job and bump!
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