Regarding the conversion rates on clothes; I would think it would be days (possibly many days) before a
significant fraction of your pheros have been converted to something else.
Warning. This post turned out to be longer than what i planned.
This is my first post, although I am a long
time user of mones. I started using mones about five years ago (I started with date-mate. no, wait, i actually
started with its predecessor, which was called something like contact). In all these years i have always applied to
skin. In this way i knew that i could always wash the mones off, when i didn\'t want them on me, without having to
carry with me a new set of clothes, and more important, i knew i could always take my clothes off when i am with a
woman, without worrying that the mones stay in the pile of clothes on the floor. This is also why i didn\'t post
untill now, although i have been reading the forum from time to time. I think our body chemistry is soooo different
that the only advice i cold give someone or take from someone is experiment for yourself. and even then one should
remember that our own pheromone signature and our own body chemistry change in accordance with what we have eaten,
with how often and in what manner we take our showers, with the time of the month (i am quite sure that even men
have a hormonal cycle), and with a lot of other things.
wow, this is getting longer than what i planned to write.
any how, at the beginning i have been applying almost every day but in the last year i have been giving my skin a
lot of breaks from the mones, applying only 3 days a week. lately i have decided to give my body longer breaks,
something like not wearing the mones on the skin for a few months, letting my skin the opportunity to recover a bit.
but i wouldn\'t want to go without mones at all for some months and hence the questions about applying to
cloths.
i have done a search in the forum about it, and read some interesting things, but couldn\'t get answers
to all of my questions. first, we all know about conversions on the skin. mostly the nol to none conversion, but i
guess that there are much more that we are not aware of, especially the conversion of the secret ingredients in
npa/te. what is the situation with cloths. i could read that the conversion is much slower, but does anyone know if
it takes place at all (i mean, there are no bacteria on the clothes, are there?) and in what rate (is it days, is it
months, years?). and is there a difference between the different fibers (cotton, wool, synthetics?). would a plain
wash in the machine take the mones off of the cloths? when not, isn\'t there a huge danger of OD? when washing the
cloths with other clothes, that weren\'t exposed to mones, would that expose them to the mones?
does anyone have
experience with these things and can share his/her wisdom?
thanks for reading till here,
i wish you all a
wonderful new year.
Markus
Regarding the conversion rates on clothes; I would think it would be days (possibly many days) before a
significant fraction of your pheros have been converted to something else.
Thanks CptKipling. do you think it is different for different fibers or can one take it as a general thumb rule?
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I wouldn\'t think that it makes a significant difference, so yes a general rule.
dry cleaning will destroy the mones on clothes. plain washing - don\'t think that it does but not
sure.
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clothes; I would think it would be days (possibly many days) before a significant fraction of your pheros have been
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If you have worn the clothes and have
perspired in them, then I doubt the pheromones would last very long. I have worn pheromones on a shirt and a coat.
Didn\'t like what happened (I misjudged the amount I should use).
Pheromones lasted longer on the coat than on
the shirt.
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If you have worn the clothes and have perspired in them, then I doubt the
pheromones would last very long. I have worn pheromones on a shirt and a coat. Didn\'t like what happened (I
misjudged the amount I should use).
Pheromones lasted longer on the coat than on the shirt.
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If you look back to ancient posts, most would disagree with you. Pheros
don\'t last on clothes? That\'s all they do is last. They build up big time. Where are they going to go? I used
to spray Andro on shirts and it was still there after washing. The smell really released itself when I ironed the
shirt. These days I wear a long sleeve shirt over a T-shirt, and the mones build up on the long sleeve shirt even
though they aren\'t applied directly to it; it picks them up from the application on my arms.
I wrote:If you look back to ancient posts, most would disagree with you. Pheros don\'t last on
clothes? That\'s all they do is last. They build up big time. Where are they going to go?
\"If you have worn the clothes and have perspired in them, then I doubt the pheromones would last very
long.\"
However, I was thinking of the conversations I read here about how certain pheromones break down or
convert to something else after bacteria have gotten onto them. And there are numerous threads where people insist
their pheromones burn off after 6-10 hours.
I haven\'t seen any evidence of pheromone buildup in my own use. I
have to agree with Elana about one thing, even though she was joking. A lot of guys on these forums make the most
out of almost nothing. Pheromones don\'t last forever. I can believe they would last a few days if other
chemicals/bacteria didn\'t interfere with them. But eventually the environment should break them down or
dissipate them.
how about apply mones on Handkerchief and carry it whenever needed
That would require to have it hang out of your pocket... would look funny if you are going casual. There was a
thread on a portable pheromone dispensing device...
My problem with applying to clothes is dosage. I never
know when and how much to refresh and I am worried about long time conversion and OD. On my skin I don\'t have any
problems with build up since I go to a steam bath usually every other day and after that and thorough washing of all
application spots I have a clean slate, from my experience. Lots of sweating appears to be the key to get rid of
anything left on your skin.
I recently had to wash my winter coat although it was not really dirty. There was
a buildup of all kinds of pheromones and cologne scents on the sleeve (since I normally apply mones freshly before
putting on the coat and leaving) which was annoying and confusing. I even got a comment from a girl about a strange
\"scent mix\" from my coat...
Sunny
Sunny-
I had a strange OD expereince the other night and I\'m fairly certain it was due to phero
build up on my coat. Like you, I never have problems w/ build up from skin application. But also like you, I tend
to leave the house rather soon after my application and I\'ve been wearing the same coat most of the time lately.
I can definitely notice a residual scent on the collar of the coat. This is the same coat that I wore a few nights
before on NYE. I was dancing a lot and therefore sweating a lot, so I had refreshed a couple of times that night.
After the last application, I spent most of the rest of the evening w/ a young lady chatting, macking and some less
vigorous dancing, so I doubt that I sweated away that dose. I wonder how much of the pheros was transfered to my
coat that night, in addition to any other normal accumulation. It\'s going to the cleaners today.
Sag, what was your experience from last night like?
Check the last post in
this thread.
Hey, I missed that thread! Wow!!!!!!!
so i would assume the strenth of
mones should be the same if they were applied at noon til 3 or 4 in the morning the next day? why does dry cleaning
kill mones but washing doesn't? my mom works at a drycleaners, dry cleaned clothes don't even get washed. they get
spot cleaned. that's what she told me anyways, they might do it different somewhere else.
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Dry cleaned clothes don't get washed in water. But they don't just get spot cleaned, either (at leastOriginally Posted by TRock
how they do it here). They get washed in a solvent. Mones are more soluable in drycleaning fluid than they are in
water.
somewhere between amused and obsessed...
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