Copulin Report

[Elana]

I deleted this post because

it isn\'t nice to accuse people of being a few beers short of a 6-pack or missing a few buttons on his remote

control. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[Elana]

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I\'ve found it fairly reliable that cops are well used with bi-women, but

it\'s like rolling the dice otherwise.

\"Do you want to smell like a woman today?\"

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Even you aren\'t very convincing in this post.

[DrSmellThis]

I would delete the last

flippant sentence in quotes if I had it to do over. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

But I

stand by the inconsistent part. I detailed some of the factors after that, that I think are responsible for the

inconsistency. Inconsistencies in one\'s results are not usually good reasons to stop your project, as there may

be ways to reduce inconsistencies to a normal level. Most consistent successes were once inconsistent successes.

[Elana]

Madmaxx is going to lay off

of them for a bit and we will see what conclusion he comes to.

[DrSmellThis]

Sounds good to me.

[belgareth]

I am in a unique

position to test mones. The nature of my business puts me in contact with the same women almost the same day of the

month, each month. In my experience the reactions were pretty consistant woman to woman and month to month. Not 100%

but close. There were a few women that seemed to give a positive reaction to cops but they were far outnumbered by

the ones who reacted negatively. When I have time I\'ll dig out my records and look for other factors, it might be

interesting to see if age or marital status impacted the results any. While I didn\'t specifically collect that

information it shouldn\'t be hard to produce it since I know most of the women pretty well.

I think it likely

that there are two basic reactions here. Some women are more likely to resent the smell of another woman on theirs

or any other man. They see him as a player. The other group views it as a challenge. Neither reaction needs to be

concious. Could it be that by nature some women are more likely to be monogamous than others and that contributes to

the different responses?

[DrSmellThis]

Interesting question.

[Sagacious1420]

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Men are notorious for being competitive. Should women start using large

amounts of synthetic testosterone for the social validation theory to work for them?

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class=\"post\">What do you think is in NPA/Edge for women?

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class=\"post\">Doc-

Do you mean to imply that NPA/w contains T as a secret ingredient? Is this just a theory

or do you know something the rest of us don\'t? Just curious.

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[Icarus]

NPA/w contains extra

competitiveness.

[Holmes]

The Williams sisters use it

a lot.


Holmes

[Pancho1188]

I know when I had a

sniff from the girl next to me in the gym who was wearing that stuff, I benched 325 just to beat the guy next to me

who was benching 320...weakling. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

[DrSmellThis]

No. I was just thinking

of the 16-androstenes, which come from testosterone. These include -none, which is in NPA/w.

[Sagacious1420]

OK

[EXIT63]

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In fact, I would prefer that other women do not find the guy I am attracted

to, attractive.

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I am SO the guy for you!

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[Elana]

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In fact, I

would prefer that other women do not find the guy I am attracted to, attractive.

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I am SO the guy for you! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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I just spit my water out.

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[Pancho1188]

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In fact, I

would prefer that other women do not find the guy I am attracted to, attractive.

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I am SO the guy for you! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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I just spit my water out.

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Yeah, you just

described a lot of men. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] Whoops... Then again, I it\'s a

privilege to attract Queen Elana... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

[MadMaxx]

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MadMaxx did not say they never worked for him, as he\'s been trying to tell

us \'till he\'s blue in the face!! I do wish folks would listen to him, and show some respect. He said he\'s

been having recent problems with women in his dance class.

In fact, the data reported so far on copulins are

inconclusive, despite the vociferousness of some folk\'s emotions here.

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Thank you Dr.Smell. Personally, I think you should give up on Elana. Your post a few posts back

was brilliant. Some people \"see\" what they want to see.Though of course they haven\'t SEEN anything. Yes, I

have been saying until I am blue in the face that I know cops give me very positive results. I report negative

results becuase of too much =NONE(combination of synthetic and natural recently) and the THICK, THICK people on the

forum understand, \"yes, cops are obviously bad). WTF! I reported ONE negative experience that MAY have been

because I used DIFFERENT copulins from what I usually use, and all the THICK naysayers concluded, \"there you go,

cops are definitely EVIL!\" WTF!

For the information of those who actually read and understand(not the others).

I have been continuing to experiment. There is no improvement in my relations when I do not use copulins, BUT there

is VERY clear improvemnet when I down the -NONE significantly. When I up the -none a bit, things go downhill again.

For the thick people, please don\'t attempt to blow my mind by concluding that EW is the cause of my

\"problems\" just because my \"problems\" decrease when I decrease the -none and leave the EW the same.



Also, though this is a -none issue rather than a cops issue, I have clearly noticed that there is a very clear

cut distinction between the women who are sensitive(positively and negatively) to my -none level. I have an

excellent testing ground; let\'s say close range dancing with the same ten women, a few times a week. Let\'s say

5 for example are totally thrilled to death with me no matter what I adjust up or down; EW or -none, or some other

blends such as Beaches. The only exception there being is that if I really go over the top on -none, yes, even the

positive reactors will get really submissive, edgy, whatever.....BUT this group has a WAY higher tolerance than the

few in the group of ten who can\'t handle the -none. The cops are NO problem for them unless they are WAY over the

top; and by way over the top I mean like 20 drops of EW at 300:1( I don\'t use anything near that anymore, but at

those levels some peoples\' motor skills are almost gone). Back to the -none sensitive group, they are not bitchy

to me or anything like that. They are actually friendly and seem attracted; love to talk to me or whatever, maybe

even flirt, BUT don\'t want to dance with me because they CANNOT. The only thing I am not sure of with the -none

being too much for them, is whether the problem is purely physical, or emotional, or both together. The physical is

definitely exhibited. A women who can normally do a just fine double or triple spin CANNOT do a double spin without

alomst falling on her head, if my -none is up just a bit. AND let\'s get something straight! I am not talking

about massive OD\'s here! I am talking about 2 drops of JB1 being too much for the group that reacts badly. That

would amount to .6 of a drop of NPA. I wouldn\'t dream of subjecting these women to multiple drops of something

like PI/M. The ones who can\'t handle -none are okay if I reduce things to just a couple of smears of APC(whatever

is in that?).

[belgareth]

Madmax:

Could you

give us more of a breakdown on the types of women you see? Age, race, marital status, etc. Are there any cyclic

changes you notice? I am interested because your results so differed from my own. Dosages were roughly the same so

there should be some other factor(s) here that we are not seeing.

[Elana]

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belgareth

[MadMaxx]

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I regret deleting my post on your credibility, Madmaxx AKA The Lone Wolf. You

have so many people that think that you are Triallish that we have found ourselves (I am talking over 10 people from

this forum) in a chatroom just talking about your posts. They are amusing to say the least. Keep it up. It is very

entertaining.

I must change my panties now because just responding to you makes me wet.

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Please explain Triallish. I am too stupid to know what that is. Now that I

know you are amused, I think I will stop posting. I am not here for your amusement, and I don\'t want to

contribute to your pleasures in life. If there are so many of you in the chat room that merely find my experiences

amusing, I am greatly disappointed. I had mistakenly thought there were a number of mature people here who shared a

common interest and belief in the power of pheromones(and copulins even if it isn\'t technically a phereomone). It

is very sad to see something so disappointing on this forum. Thank you for bringing this situation to my attention

Elana. I had thought you were the only ignorant individual kicking around. In retrospect, I guess I should have

known better. They say if you see one cockroach, you know there are actually 100 more....

Any serious people on

the forum can feel free to PM me anytime.

[Elana]

Do a forum search on

TRIALL

No, I am not the only one that sees what you are all about.

[Elana]

You and Drsmellthis don\'t

agree with what I am saying. You just called me ignorant. I am not threatening to leave the forum. If you think you

are so in the know about your mixes why are you going to leave? Many people don\'t agree with you. So?

I

never understood how people could bring something up on a public forum and then get upset if people didn\'t agree

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[Elana]

Madmaxx, It\'s very hard

for this issue not to get personal, because in the big picture the whole idea is an insult to many women. A few of

the men invent these theories about what turns women on. It\'s insulting to have to listen to a few guys tell us

these things that are so completely off base. To have to hear that a woman would be turned on by a man\'s scent of

another women, whether it be conscious or subconscious, is crazy. I don\'t even believe that Drsmellthis is a big

fan of the copulins theory. I just think that this turned into a female vs male debate and he had to stick up for

his side. I was just relieved to see that the majority of men here do not subscribe to this theory.

[bjf]

MadMax

It is understandable

that you do not want to continue participating in an environment where people are supposedly making fun of you, this

forum can resemble Lord of the Flies at times, but once you let that get to you, members who appreciate your

contributions end up paying for it.

Anyway, I don\'t know what in the hell some people are mocking, but then

again, we\'ve only heard from one in that group.

[Elana]

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Anyway, I don\'t know what in the hell some people are mocking, but then

again, we\'ve only heard from one in that group.

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I could

pull up a few dozen old posts, but I will leave it as it is.

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and the THICK, THICK people on the forum understand, \"yes, cops are

obviously bad). WTF!

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You mean the people that don\'t agree

with you? They are considered \"thick\"?

[DrSmellThis]

I just don\'t find a resemblance

between Maxx and Triall. I do find that telling people that everybody talks badly about them behind their back, in

an attempt to make them feel pain, says more about the one saying that than it does the one being talked about!

It\'s one of the more viscious ways to use words, and it is ugly behavior.

Who cares if he is \"credible\"??

He\'s not running for office. It\'s flirtation stories from a dance class for goddsakes! I see no problem with

Maxx\'s posts in this thread.

On the other hand, gossiping for power to hurt others is one of my least

favorite traits. As a child therapist, I\'d put it at age 12, and a dysfunctional 12 at that. It\'s really not

appropriate on this forum, and I would ask people to leave it in their pubescent chat rooms.

[Elana]

I admit....I feel a bit bad for

saying it. Had he not quoted it, I would have deleted it.

[bjf]

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To have to hear that a woman would be turned on by a man\'s scent of

another women, whether it be conscious or subconscious, is crazy

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Elana, I understand why you would not want your gender to be portrayed as weak-minded individuals who all of a

sudden chase what another chick has decided to screw, but you are looking at it with a closed mind.

First off, a

woman\'s view of a man does tend to improve if she knows that other woman like that. I hope you do not want to

dispute that, but as men, many of us see how a woman\'s opinion can change when all of a sudden she sees something

like this or see highly attractive female(s) who are friends or ex\'s of a guy. Dabbling in cops is experimenting

with projecting this.

Also, after eating a girl out, many of us guys notice more glances from women. That is all

more reason to experiment with cops.

Also, perhaps cops may be able to subconsiously project to a woman that she

has already been with you sexually, if women have specific types of cops that ew or pcc may be, thus explaining why

some guys have gotten the \"I feel Like I have known you for so long\" reaction with them.


All of this stuff

has nothing to do with a man smelling like \"pu$$y\" or placing a pink dress and lip stick on him. If I put a

load of PI on you, would you remind me of hulk hogan? Hell no. You are not going to change someone\'s visual

feminity or masculinity.

[Elana]

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but you are looking at it with a closed mind.



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No, I am looking at it through a woman\'s

mind.
bjf..I think you really believe what you just wrote. I think it sounds ridiculous. I guess we should go

back to the idea that it is best that women stay out of the main forum. It\'s just too frustrating and sad to see

how men think about us.

[DrSmellThis]

To address another issue, there

is nothing insulting about a man with a theory about what turns women on (after all, men succeed at it frequently,

even moreso than women [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]) unless one believes in 1970\'s PC

pseudofeminist extremism. People disagreed, and they expressed their disagreement.

This is also the first time

this was brought up. Words can be used appropriately to resolve conflicts. I personally am fine with someone telling

me they feel insulted, and believe most men here would handle it just fine as well.