Bruce,
Out of curiosity, how is it different from the men\'s?
Holmes
http://love-scent.com//order.html
Ladie
s,
I think it\'s been nearly a year in the making, but we finally have Women\'s SOE in the warehouse. The
price will normally be the same as the men\'s, but it is on sale for $39.95 thru the holidays.
Forum
members,
Let me know by email if you place an order for SOE online and I\'ll send you a nifty pheromone pen and
Christmas card from my home. No kidding. It has our logo on it and for-really pheromones in the ink.
Merry
Christmas,
Bruce
Bruce,
Out of curiosity, how is it different from the men\'s?
Holmes
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Bruce,
Out of curiosity, how is it different
from the men\'s?
Holmes
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Men\'s is 4 mg NOL; 1 mg RONE;
musk fragrance
Women\'s is 5 mg NOL; a healthy amount of EW-type copulins; women\'s fragrance
Major effort
involved in finding a fragrance that would work with the cops smell; and finding that fine line of \"too much with
any fragrance\" for the cops. Very different product from the mens. I hope folks like it.
Bruce
Will these come in individual packs as well?
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Will these come in individual packs as well?
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Elana,
Yes, it will definitely come in the famliar SOE gel
packs, but it might be a while. As you may have read, we have been working on Edge gel packs too. Last I heard
we were reserving a spot in February for both projects, but we might be able to get the SOE/women sooner. Phil and
I are meeting in Vegas in a few weeks for a collaborative marketing effort at the famous (infamous?) Adult Expo.
It would be nice to have the SOE/women gel packs ready for that.
Bruce
Bruce, can you describe the scent in the female version [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] Is it
girly? Is it strong like the original SoE?
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Women\'s is 5 mg NOL; a healthy
amount of EW-type copulins; women\'s fragrance
--Bruce
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Hey
Bruce,
The amount of copulins is secret? I asked for Pmixcalc update.
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Sounds like the classic women´s combo [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
What fragrance is it
Bruce? I still find personally that the cucumber melon scent is the best cover for cops. Can you desribe the scent
somehow?
How come JVK didn´t use rone for the women´s version? I thought that rone was the `main idea behind
SOE?
Pretty cool - a new product for everyone to play with [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]
CJ
Bruce,
Is the EW smell well covered?
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Bruce, can you describe the scent in the female
version [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] Is it girly? Is it strong like the original SoE?
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Skyy,
I am not very good at this. On the one hand it is not an
organic fragrance that you can easily pick out (eg: citrus, floral), but it is not a heavy complex perfume like your
mother used to wear either. Probably along the lines of recent designer colognes. I just took a whiff of it and I
like it a lot, but I just can\'t peg it as anything.
Bruce
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Sounds like the classic women´s combo
[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
What fragrance is it Bruce? I still find personally that the
cucumber melon scent is the best cover for cops. Can you desribe the scent somehow?
How come JVK didn´t use
rone for the women´s version? I thought that rone was the `main idea behind SOE?
Pretty cool - a new product for
everyone to play with [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]
CJ
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CJ,
SOE is definitely not a simple organic fragrance like PCC; more like a designer cologne.
PCC copulins is easy to cover. Actually, from what I have been told the copulins in PCC has no smell at all. SOE
contains the same type of copulins as EW, just a very small amount that you can barely (if at all notice). Our goal
was to find that fine line where you can actually notice the smell in there (ie: not \"subliminal\" but not
offensive or distracting). Kind of: \"Hmmm.... (deep whiff) hmmm... now that you mention it, yeah, I can smell a
little EW in there, but it smells good. I wouldn\'t have noticed if you hadn\'t mentioned it\". It was a
mighty task, but I always thought it possible as a lot of folks were coming up with EW mixtures that were working
well for them. Also, the women\'s Pheromax is unfragranced even and uses a barely perceptable amount of an
EW-type copulins and it actually smells quite good. I could write pages about the process we went through.
Bruce
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Bruce,
Is the EW smell well covered?
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Elana,
Yes, I honestly think so. Earlier versions (and there have been
countless) often stank upon first application, calming down after 15-20 minutes, but even with label warnings we
didn\'t think we could release the product that way. Unless you really take a close whiff and recall the EW
smell, you would never even occur to you that there is any in there. I will be very surprised if anyone has a
problem with the EW. We even had earlier prototypes that *some* women felt was great right from the bottle, but a
significant number of others noticed was too \"poopy\" smellling.... back to the drawing board. If anything, we
are too conservative with the EW and you might want to add a drop of EW concentrate.
Bruce
Thanks Bruce. I hope the scent goes down well with everyone [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
I´ve never had problems with the EW or covering it myself.
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Actually, from what I have been told the copulins in PCC has no smell at
all.
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clearly at the beginning. Course though, it can´t `compete´with the EW
[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img] .
I bet a
lot of guys are gonna be playing with this one [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
I\'m not great at describing scents, either. But to me SOE for women smells very fresh, somewhat like a classic
aldehyde scent (White Linen) but not as thick; perhaps a bit more flowery. Have only tried it on a few women so far,
but it does seem to change slightly with the woman\'s chemistry--as could be expected. It was very different on a
25 y/o Asian woman compared to a 45 y/o Caucasian--but still smelled great on both of them. Can barely detect any
copulin scent (I\'ve tried to train myself to better detect the scent), which is for the best, since they don\'t
need to be detected to have an effect on testosterone levels in men. Will add more info when I can.
Some other posts in the main forum explain the use of -rone in the men\'s fragrance; it definately adds masculine
appeal. -nol is just musky enough to stay on the male/female border. I read recently that musk fragrance is used in
85% of cosmentics (i.e., for males or females).
Anyone have a bottle yet?
What do you think of the fragrance?
Bruce
I thought women\'s SOE would be on sale through New Year\'s, or does \"through the holidays\"
mean through Christmas?
It says it\'s $49.95 now. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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Edit:
Never mind. If you go a little further, it lists the sale price. Sorry
about that. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]
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I thought women\'s SOE would be on sale through
New Year\'s, or does \"through the holidays\" mean through Christmas?
It says it\'s $49.95 now.
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It is still
$39.95. Where does it say 49.95?
Bruce
My mistake. When you click on the link on the left side of the home page, the page it sends you to
says it\'s $49.95. If you go a little further, it does tell you it\'s on sale for $39.95. I thought I
remembered looking at the page last week and that first page said $39.95. Sorry.
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Please forgive her. She just donated blood. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]
[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
I am waiting for the single packets to come out until I make my order.
The holiday special price for women\'s SOE is about over. I\'ll leave it up today. Also, if you bought a
bottle, drop me an email with your name and I\'ll get your Christmas gift off as I promised. (if you already
emailed me about it, no need to write me again, I have taken note)
Any comments on the fragrance
yet?
Thanks,
Bruce
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