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    Hi All,

    I

    already long time not posting or viewing this forum.
    But what i see is almost same as before I leaving this

    forum.
    Not much new product
    Not much success for asian people (CMIIW)
    Not much different resources: table,

    cookbook, etc is not updated.

    Please let me know if I am wrong. Thanks

    Regards,


    Tom

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    Default Re: Change since few month ago

    Tom,

    What kinds of results have you been getting? I see where you were posting some good questions a while back

    but no results. What products are you using and what results are you getting? Have you come up with any new mixes

    that seem to work for you? If you and others would post some examples of your efforts it might inspire more users to

    do the same.

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    Default Re: Change since few month ago

    I

    haven\'t had much free time to report hits, but there are three super attractive asian girls I have class with and

    \'mones seem to work wonders on them. They always follow me around and recently have taken to complimenting me (on

    my hair cut, on shaving off my facial hair etc.) They certainly aren\'t as overt as some of the other girls at the

    bars (and I\'ve only seen them out drinking once or twice) but they do give signs of interest.

    JDM

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    Default Re: Change since few month ago

    JDM,

    Which products, how much, and applied where?

    Thanks.

    Holmes

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    Default Re: Change since few month ago

    This past month I\'ve gotten into the habit of a \"Z\" of SOE on each hand, a drop of AE/M behind each ear and

    one spray to the back of my hair of a WAGG-N/A-1 50/50 mix. I generally do this about a 1/2 hour before I go out in

    public to let the scent wear off a bit. I do this every other day (MWF basically).

    If I\'m going to a bar,

    I\'ll basically double the doses and put a spray of TE to the chest (directly under all the clothes.)

    JDM

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    Default Re: Change since few month ago

    Have you

    noticed that the addition of the A-1 significantly increased the effectiveness of this mix?


    Holmes

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    Default Re: Change since few month ago

    I

    had little success with the \"old\" pheromones (NPA, PI/M, APC, TE) until I started using SOE and A-1.

    I

    think A-1 helps a lot and helps mitigate any bad effects the -none may have. My only problem is that I tend to get

    really depressed if I sniff any A-1 (this seems to be a more recent development.) So in anything I use I tend to mix

    in some A-1. I\'ve worked WAGG in as well and it seems to work. I had no success with NPA until I brought WAGG or

    A-1 into the mix.

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    Default Re: Change since few month ago

    Welcome

    Back Tom,
    About new products .. we have NPA 10ml, Edge Essentials, Betal-nol, wagg, EW, etc. and Bruce tell us some

    news soon .. If i´m not make mistake..SoE woman, TE gel.
    Best regards....

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    Default Re: Change since few month ago

    Thanks

    abductor,

    I am not yet back totally. I just monitoring sometimes

    [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
    If I am not wrong I see your calculator, but didnt remember the

    url

    I hope I will see big success with asian people.

    [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

    Regards,


    Utomo


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    Default Re: Change since few month ago

    </font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />

    but didnt remember the url


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    class=\"post\">

    http://pmixcalc.sysframe.net

    Your tips are

    always welcome, after all you contributed a lot since the beginning.

    [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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    Default Re: Change since few month ago

    Tom,
    Welcome back. Have a look around before posting stuff like that though, would you? There\'s lots of new

    stuff.

    Women\'s SOE should be ready to ship by tomorrow, by the way.

    Cheers,
    Bruce

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    Default Re: Change since few month ago

    </font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
    Hi All,

    I already long time not posting or

    viewing this forum.
    But what i see is almost same as before I leaving this forum.
    Not much new product
    Not much

    success for asian people (CMIIW)
    Not much different resources: table, cookbook, etc is not updated.

    Please let

    me know if I am wrong. Thanks

    Regards,


    Tom

    <hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    Tom,

    I have

    been reading your posts for as long as I can remember. I seriously think you should just give up. Your obsession

    with the whole \"Asian\" thing is getting to be a bit much. Asians or humans like the rest of us right? Or animals

    like the rest of us, however you want to look at it. If things aren\'t working for you, I strongly suspect that

    it is you who is the fundamental problem, rather than it being a question of \"do pheros work for Asians\". How

    would you describe your social skills? Your ability to talk to women? Your level of confidence? Your ability to

    establish rapport with women.....? I am literally surrounded by Asian guys, and all of them have better luck with

    women than you it seems, even without pheros. As has been said many times before on the forum, pheros may give you

    an edge, but they cannot make up for all sorts of other fundamentals that are lacking. Asians are part of the same

    species as the rest of us, and pheros work very well on Asian females of all sorts, so why wouldn\'t they work for

    Asian males? Do you suppose that of all the people on the planet, only Asian males got blasted out of the

    evolutionary link a while back or what?

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    Default Re: Change since few month ago

    I hate to

    drag this out any longer, but I agree with MadMaxx. I am asian, I believe the pheros work and have worked for me.

    It\'s probably a good idea to get off the pheros for a while so you don\'t rely too much on it.

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    Default Re: Change since few month ago

    I agree

    with MadMaxx but Tom has JVK on his side. Read SOE the book. JVK makes strong claims there about pheromone

    differentiation by race.

    This is an ad hominem argument.

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    </font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
    I agree with MadMaxx but Tom has JVK on his side.

    Read SOE the book. JVK makes strong claims there about pheromone differentiation by race.

    This is an ad hominem

    argument.

    <hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    Yes, I have read JVK. There is race

    \"differentiation\", which does NOT translate into, \"pheros do not work for Asian men\"(or any other subgroup

    of the species for that matter.

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    Default Re: Change since few month ago

    Hi Madmaxx and

    others,

    I have no problem for critics and suggestion.
    I have no problem with my live, I can talk and make

    friend with woman. so I think it have nothing to do with my social live. BUt I didnt find any different reaction

    with or without phero.
    I just didn\'t find the best phero formula for asian woman.
    If we read the forum, I

    think we will find many of Asian people still not getting big hit as other western user. it maybe correct that Asian

    culture is one of the barrier.
    But as JVK mention, maybe somebody (or maybe JVK it self) need to do more research

    on Asia people.
    Remember Asian people is considered one of the biggest populations (China, India and Indonesia is

    all Top populations), so it can be a good target if success.


    Regards,

    Tom


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    Default Re: Change since few month ago

    </font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
    Tom,
    Welcome back. Have a look around before

    posting stuff like that though, would you? There\'s lots of new stuff.

    Women\'s SOE should be ready to

    ship by tomorrow, by the way.

    Cheers,
    Bruce

    <hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    Hi Bruce,



    Thanks.
    Sorry for posting like that. this because I still see that WAGG, Pheromax Spray! still marked as New,

    so I think not much new product since I didn\'t visit the website and forum.

    Regards,

    Utomo



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    </font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />

    If we read the forum, I think we will find many

    of Asian people still not getting big hit as other western user. it maybe correct that Asian culture is one of the

    barrier.
    But as JVK mention, maybe somebody (or maybe JVK it self) need to do more research on Asia

    people.
    Remember Asian people is considered one of the biggest populations (China, India and Indonesia is all Top

    populations), so it can be a good target if success.


    <hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    I

    really belive that Asian culture is main (and maybe only) of the barrier. I have a friend that she is Brazilian but

    son of Japaneses (of the genetic point of view she is Japanese). Well 2 TE dabs and she answers in the same way that

    mine other brasilian friends.

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    </font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
    I really belive that Asian culture is main (and

    maybe only) of the barrier. I have a friend that she is Brazilian but son of Japaneses (of the genetic point of view

    she is Japanese). Well 2 TE dabs and she answers in the same way that mine other brasilian friends.

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    Hmmm, in order to prove this theory we need to Find a Brazilian girl

    being raised in Japan.

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    Utomo,

    where you live are there any non-asian immigrants. Perhaps you could experiment on them.

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    </font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
    Hmmm, in order to prove this theory we need to Find

    a Brazilian girl being raised in Japan.

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    Depends who she\'s

    being raised by.

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    Well,

    it\'s been a long time since i had posted here. Well,
    i got too busy with my work that i forgot about pheros. But

    i think in the 4 month time that i did use it heavily, i can say that it did help. You see, this girl won\'t be

    stalking me on the phone if not for the pheros or maybe the seduction thing. I was intending to attract her friend

    friend not her, but guess what happened.

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    </font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
    </font><blockquote><font

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    I really belive that Asian culture is main (and maybe only) of the barrier.

    I have a friend that she is Brazilian but son of Japaneses (of the genetic point of view she is Japanese). Well 2 TE

    dabs and she answers in the same way that mine other brasilian friends.

    <hr /></blockquote><font

    class=\"post\">

    Hmmm, in order to prove this theory we need to Find a Brazilian girl being raised in Japan.



    <hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    Well, I\'ve encounter women raised in Japan who are half

    Japanese and half South American, and I\'ve practically turned them into cats in heat.

    [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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    </font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
    Well, I\'ve encounter women raised in Japan who

    are half Japanese and half South American, and I\'ve practically turned them into cats in heat.

    [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

    <hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    Some guys have

    all the luck.


    Holmes

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    </font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
    Well, I\'ve encounter women raised in Japan who

    are half Japanese and half South American, and I\'ve practically turned them into cats in heat.


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    Can you turn them back again? Their loved ones are getting worried!

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    Just send

    them over to ol\' Topcat.

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    </font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
    Just send them over to ol\' Topcat.

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    I let\'em get away.... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]


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    </font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
    Well, I\'ve encounter women raised in Japan who

    are half Japanese and half South American, and I\'ve practically turned them into cats in heat.

    [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

    <hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    It is not

    Asian, but 50% asian, so maybe it is affected by the non asian ?

    To answer other question:
    I live in Indonesia

    (many people know about Bali, but didnt know Indonesia).
    Yes, here many western too. but I didnt test to them yet.

    have no time for that, especially last few month.



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    </font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
    </font><blockquote><font

    class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
    Well, I\'ve encounter women raised in Japan who are half Japanese and half

    South American, and I\'ve practically turned them into cats in heat.

    [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

    <hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    It is not

    Asian, but 50% asian, so maybe it is affected by the non asian ?

    To answer other question:
    I live in Indonesia

    (many people know about Bali, but didnt know Indonesia).
    Yes, here many western too. but I didnt test to them yet.

    have no time for that, especially last few month.




    <hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    Tom,

    when you go to test yourself on the Western women, just soak yourself in -none and target ones that are in the

    middle to late thirties. That type just about rapes me if I have a lot of -none on. You don\'t need anything fancy

    like SOE for example, for that category.

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    Thanks

    Madmaxx.

    But I just begining of 30. maybe not my mood [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
    So,

    maybe I will test/not your suggestion about late thirties
    Thanks.

    Tom

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