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    Default Attracting the wrong people with pheromones?

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    Has anyone considered we may be attracting the wrong people for us with these purchased pheromones? I

    keep getting a lot of hits from men that I know are not compatible with my personality when using pheromones. The

    one guy I want to attract is not responding to the pheromones. Today at work he talked and was he very friendly but

    he seemed to be distant. This guy is very shy and does not have interest in a any woman but me. How do I know, or

    for that matter any of us know, that by covering up our natural pheromones that we are actually repelling the right

    person for us?

    Granted this stuff does attract man and a lot of men at that. But all the men it has attracted

    for me are of no interest to me. I am currently using PPA. Is there a product out there that is known to work on

    shy men?

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    Using pheromones is sort of a roll of the dice. You never know just who is going to respond or not

    respond. There are just so many variables involved. I\'ve had the same experience myself with someone I was

    interested in not responding....but then seeing people I would never imagine being interested showing a

    reaction.

    I doubt you\'re pheromones are repelling him. He\'s probably even more attracted to you with

    the mones, but feels that you would never be interested in him and is too shy to make any moves.

    If you

    think your mones could be hurting though then experiment by not using them for 3 or 4 days and see if his behavior

    changes. Otherwise, I really suspect in the end you\'re just going to have to do something to let him know

    you\'re interested in him. You\'re probably going to have to make the first move.

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    Default Re: Attracting the wrong people with pheromones?

    </font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
    This guy is very shy and does not have

    interest in a any woman but me.

    <hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    If you know he\'s shy and that

    he doesn\'t have interest in any woman but you, why don\'t you ask him out casually for
    coffee or something

    like that? A shy guy like him probably needs some help and since you know he likes you, pheromones
    aren\'t really

    necessary here - just some willingness to
    go out on a limb and structure an opportunity for you and he
    to begin

    seeing each other socially.

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    Default Re: Attracting the wrong people with pheromones?

    So how do you \"KNOW\" he\'s interested in you? I\'m just curious cuz if you KNOW someone likes

    you then I say go for it! Like the above posts, if he\'s shy, chances are he isn\'t gonna change any time too

    soon. So if you want results, you may have to make the first move. Or arrange something with your friends/co-workers

    to get like a gathering out and you two might be in a better environment to mingle. Utilize your resource

    [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

    Man, if I KNOW someone I\'m interested is interested in me,

    then I\'m going for it. But so far, I\'ve been REALLY BAD at \"KNOWING\"... so I stopped following my faulty

    instincts in that area. Too many \"But, we\'re just good friends right?\" or \"I don\'t want to jeapordize

    our friendship\". Damnit women, if there\'s something else wrong, just say it! It\'s my Hair isn\'t it! Bleah

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    Default Re: Attracting the wrong people with pheromones?

    We gotta remember women are naturally submissive and via genetics expect the guy to show the

    testostrone and make the move - thats why shy guys never get laid except when they get frustrated and go to a

    prostitute for it.
    Wonderingwoman wont ask this guy out even he is interested and she is interested but cannot go

    out with him unless HE makes the move and not her - so if she is using the mones and is not prepared to ask him out

    then she shouldnt be chasing him or trying to direct the mones at him. Its as simple as that because otherwise he

    wont change she will continue to waste her energy in the hope he will make the move he wont and she will remain

    confused.

    Ie why wont he ask me out even though i have my mones on - hey plenty of guys expect the same thing ie

    i wear this she will aks me out WONT HAPPEN GUYS - WELL VERY RARLEY you gotta move or she will remain confused.

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    Default Re: Attracting the wrong people with pheromones?

    </font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
    Granted this stuff does attract man

    and a lot of men at that. But all the men it has attracted for me are of no interest to me.

    <hr

    /></blockquote><font class=\"post\"> happens without mones too [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]


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    Default Re: Attracting the wrong people with pheromones?

    </font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
    We gotta remember women are naturally

    submissive

    <hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\"> please stop generalizing

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    Default Re: Attracting the wrong people with pheromones?

    </font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
    The one guy I want to attract is not

    responding to the pheromones.

    <hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    I went out with a girl about two

    weeks ago. I was wearing two drops of PI/w (wrists), two sprays of TE/m (armpits), and 1/3 pack of SOE (on neck and

    wrists). And I was being my natural attractive and cool self, with little/no reaction from her. At the end of the

    night, all I got was a HANDSHAKE. I get more sexual response from lampposts (they sometimes turn on when I walk

    under them).

    Flash forward to day before yesterday; I bumped into her on the street. She let me know she had a

    lot of fun on our first date (could\'ve REALLY fooled me) and that we should do it again sometime. So, we went to

    the movies that night and afterwards were making out like teenagers.

    Here\'s the kicker: She told me that she

    wanted to make out with me that VERY first night, that she was so overwhelmed and she had no idea where that was

    coming from because she normally doesn\'t let lust get in the way of getting to know somebody. BUT SHE

    COULDN\'T HELP IT!! She had to force herself not to jump me right then and there. She kept on hoping I would

    just lean in and kiss her, so she didn\'t have to make the decision to hold back anymore.

    Moral of the story:

    Never assume you know what\'s going on INSIDE. I thought her lack of speaking, responding was a negative sign.

    But, I had no clue what it really meant.

    Anywho, just ask the guy to coffee, take it out of the context of the

    workplace. Present it as an opportunity to make a new friend. At worst, you\'ll have a new friend, right?

    Sid


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    Default Re: Attracting the wrong people with pheromones?

    This story once again shows we shouldn\'t even TRY to figure out what is going on in a woman\'s

    head. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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    Default Re: Attracting the wrong people with pheromones?

    Ms. Wondering? I have read many of your posts, and I must say that I am confused as to

    why you feel this man is so interested in you? You said that he is often very cold to you. I agree with what these

    lovely men are telling you. Ask him out and if he declines, then move on to something real.

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    Default Re: Attracting the wrong people with pheromones?

    </font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
    I keep getting a lot of hits from

    men that I know are not compatible with my personality when using pheromones.

    <hr /></blockquote><font

    class=\"post\">

    I\'m not sure what you expected, but pheromones aren\'t going to get a guy to look at you

    due to your respectable behavior and personality....why would they? and what were you expecting from a sexual

    attraction product?

    You have made it some what clear that you don\'t like obvious men, that you like shy guys

    that are hard to read and ummm interesting [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]. Shy guys who sit in

    the back and let things go by due to whatever personality trait aren\'t going to acknowledge you anymore more if

    you were butt ass naked....well they may noticed but they would sit behind their desk and fondle their timid

    man-meat while acting as if they aren\'t starring at you and act as if you have cooties, which seems kind of 4th

    gradish I was shy a lot, gets attention, but unless you are making moves......nothing. I don\'t see how you can

    win in this situation, if the shy guy pops out (no pun intended) and shows you attention, won\'t you find him not

    as attractive? It\'s a double positive it\'s like a pedophiler opening a day care center. what would I

    expect?

    There is a product that works for Shy men, it\'s a boot in the ass.

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    Default Re: Attracting the wrong people with pheromones?

    </font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
    This guy is very shy and does not have

    interest in a any woman but me.

    <hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    rather presumptuous

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    Default Re: Attracting the wrong people with pheromones?

    </font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
    rather presumptuous

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    Default Re: Attracting the wrong people with pheromones?

    </font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
    We gotta remember women are naturally

    submissive and via genetics expect the guy to show the testostrone and make the move - thats why shy guys never get

    laid except when they get frustrated and go to a prostitute for it.
    Wonderingwoman wont ask this guy out even he is

    interested and she is interested but cannot go out with him unless HE makes the move and not her - so if she is

    using the mones and is not prepared to ask him out then she shouldnt be chasing him or trying to direct the mones at

    him. Its as simple as that because otherwise he wont change she will continue to waste her energy in the hope he

    will make the move he wont and she will remain confused.

    Ie why wont he ask me out even though i have my mones on

    - hey plenty of guys expect the same thing ie i wear this she will aks me out WONT HAPPEN GUYS - WELL VERY RARLEY

    you gotta move or she will remain confused.

    <hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    Naturally submissive

    NOT! We are just a tad more subtle about communicating mating signals. It\'s true that some women (like me) prefer

    that the man make the first OVERT move. But, that\'s AFTER we\'ve already made him think it\'s his idea to

    pursue us.

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    Default I agree with Watcher (Shock!)

    I have to

    agree with Watcher although I would have put it more diplomatically.

    Here\'s the proof - how many women are

    attracted to men that the woman could physically dominate? Answer: very, very few. Women almost universally expect

    their male mate to be bigger, taller, stronger than themselves.

    Women are being encouraged to be more aggressive

    in Western culture these days but women are NOT interested genetically in men that they can dominate. As to the

    notion of \"equality\" in a relationship I can only add that equality is highly unstable and largely illusionary.


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    This idea of \"being interested but not letting anyone know it\" was precisely what I was referring

    to in my thread \"Indifference: Faking It?\" .. I think if we were animals and not human, then these mones would

    be bringing us \"together\" a lot more quickly. I made references to women \"faking it\" but of course both

    sexes are capable of this behavior. I, personally, would like to know how to read some of the more subtle signs ...



    Cuddles

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    Default Re: I agree with Watcher (Shock!)

    </font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
    I have to agree with Watcher although I would have

    put it more diplomatically.

    Here\'s the proof - how many women are attracted to men that the woman could

    physically dominate? Answer: very, very few. Women almost universally expect their male mate to be bigger, taller,

    stronger than themselves.

    Women are being encouraged to be more aggressive in Western culture these days but

    women are NOT interested genetically in men that they can dominate. As to the notion of \"equality\" in a

    relationship I can only add that equality is highly unstable and largely illusionary.

    <hr /></blockquote><font

    class=\"post\">

    But, there are many kinds of domination, these days. A woman may be able \"outhink\" or

    \"outmaneuver\" a man, or may dominate by force of personality.

    However, I have to concede that I am also not

    attracted to men who are smaller than I am.


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    Default Re: I agree with Watcher (Shock!)

    To add

    to Kari\'s statement:

    Well, here\'s the scenario I find myself in.

    Through my last relationship, the girl

    I was with will generally be looked at as the submissive type, like she\'s obviously looking for a guy who can

    protect her, a sense of security. A little hard to do that if the guy\'s smaller than her.
    But here\'s the

    interesting thing. When we\'re together she would like to call some of the shots (not all) but more wanting the

    guy to treat her like a queen in the sense of listening to her, spoiling her, etc. Not to a point where it\'s

    selfish, but I mean, she is submissive, but she also would like some control too, so of course what she says,

    usually goes (within reasonable limits). And many guys do that, so we all have a submissive and dominant side, of

    course.

    And even some of the most physically dominating males (bodybuilders, what not) can have an incredibly

    submissive state with the right girl. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

    So the way I look at it,

    give her the physical protection, the Mental comfort, followed by a side of spoilers and topped with an open-mind

    for compromise.... and we have a pretty good mix, dontcha think?


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    Default Re: Attracting the wrong people with pheromones?

    maybe this guy is pc. Maybe he is trying to avoid a office romance. He probably lusts after you in many

    ways but choses not to act on his impulses because it will affect his working enviroment. Especially if you work in

    the same room or office. Because if anything goes wrong with the relationship it is very uncomfortable having to

    work next to or around that person.

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    Default Re: Attracting the wrong people with pheromones?

    </font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
    How do I know, or for that matter any

    of us know, that by covering up our natural pheromones that we are actually repelling the right person for us?



    <hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    You are right. We don\'t know much about the \'language\' of

    natural pheros, let alone what signal the commercial products are sending. We have scientific evidence about the

    general effects and areas of the brain affected, but not a lot of specifics. It hasn\'t been studied well enough

    yet.

    Using the commercial phero products is an experiment. The commercial products are concentrated versions of

    chemicals that appear naturally on your skin. Even a light application of the products is typically many times more

    concentrated than anything that appears on your skin naturally. You are experimenting with sending strong pheromonal

    signals, always different and stronger than nature. Observe the effects on others and see if you like it.

    As far

    as covering your own pheros, well that\'s not a big issue in today\'s world. Most of us bathe off our natural

    phero signature daily, and mask body odor with chemical deodorants anyway. The standard well-scrubbed human sends no

    significant phero signal, or a false chemical signal, becuase he/she bathes and deodorizes daily.

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    Default Re: Attracting the wrong people with pheromones?

    </font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
    maybe this guy is pc.

    Maybe he is trying to avoid a office romance. He probably lusts after you in many ways but choses not to act on his

    impulses because it will affect his working enviroment. Especially if you work in the same room or office. Because

    if anything goes wrong with the relationship it is very uncomfortable having to work next to or around that person.



    <hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    furburger, this is the whole issue!! We work in the same

    building,on the same team, on the same projects and work side by side. If a romance went wrong then it would create

    a lot of stress for both of us. For neither of us is going to quit our jobs.

    A woman DOES know when a man is

    interested. I have known and worked with this man for four years. I know he changed about a year ago and we did

    have a office romance but without the dating part. We had the loving words and loving looks for each other and

    still do except when he is in his cold mood.

    By the way today he did respond but nothing out of the usual for

    him. When he is not in his cold mood he is very flirty and today he was flirty.

    I am so happy today!!!

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    </font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
    </font><blockquote><font

    class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
    How do I know, or for that matter any of us know, that by covering up our

    natural pheromones that we are actually repelling the right person for us?

    <hr /></blockquote><font

    class=\"post\">

    You are right. We don\'t know much about the \'language\' of natural pheros, let alone

    what signal the commercial products are sending. We have scientific evidence about the general effects and areas of

    the brain affected, but not a lot of specifics. It hasn\'t been studied well enough yet.

    Using the commercial

    phero products is an experiment. The commercial products are concentrated versions of chemicals that appear

    naturally on your skin. Even a light application of the products is typically many times more concentrated than

    anything that appears on your skin naturally. You are experimenting with sending strong pheromonal signals, always

    different and stronger than nature. Observe the effects on others and see if you like it.

    As far as covering your

    own pheros, well that\'s not a big issue in today\'s world. Most of us bathe off our natural phero signature

    daily, and mask body odor with chemical deodorants anyway. The standard well-scrubbed human sends no significant

    phero signal, or a false chemical signal, becuase he/she bathes and deodorizes daily.

    <hr

    /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    Irish, I never thought of it like that. Thanks. I am new to this forum

    and to the pheromones so I am learning so much from everyone.

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    WT wrote:

    </font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
    Today at work he

    talked and was he very friendly but he seemed to be distant.

    <hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">



    </font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
    By the way today he did respond but nothing out

    of the usual for him.

    <hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    </font><blockquote><font

    class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
    This guy is very shy and does not have interest in a any woman but me.



    <hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    </font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr

    />
    we did have a office romance but without the dating part.

    <hr /></blockquote><font

    class=\"post\">

    It\'s like putting your head inside a blender and pressing the puree button.

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    Default Re: Attracting the wrong people with pheromones?

    </font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />

    furburger, this is the whole issue!!

    We work in the same building,on the same team, on the same projects and work side by side. If a romance went wrong

    then it would create a lot of stress for both of us. For neither of us is going to quit our jobs.

    <hr

    /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    Well, either you want something to happen or you don\'t. The work

    situation won\'t change unless one of you leaves the firm. Pheros won\'t change the work situation either.

    It\'s just a question of whether y\'all want to risk an on the job romance which granted can be rough and

    potentially hazardous to one\'s job. If you think it\'s worth the risk then make the move coz this guy will

    never make any move if you\'ve known him for 4 yrs or whatever. If you want him, go for him and throw caution to

    the wind, or just forget about him entirely if the risks are not worth it. Been in this situation a number of times

    myself and decided the risks just weren\'t worth it.

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    Default Re: Attracting the wrong people with pheromones?

    Ash writes:
    </font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
    It\'s like putting

    your head inside a blender and pressing the puree button.

    <hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    It took

    quite a lot of self-medication this evening, but I finally got it. (But then again, I firmly believe that I now

    also understand quantum physics and the female psyche as well.)

    If there is a \"Best Poster of the Year\"

    Award, I know where my vote is going.

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