Good God, I hope this is the WAGG

[Icarus]

This is

awful... I put some WAGG and SPMO (2:4) on this morning, and have felt hideously depressed since about

10:30am...

It\'s a kind of claustrophobic Nihilism... Trapped in my skull, despair over the lack of

significance of anything, and chastising myself for despairing... Urg..

This is the first time that I\'ve had

this sort of reaction from Pheros...

On the plus(?) side, got my first \'Gay\' hit today... Some *really*

gay guy (stated without any prejudice, he just is. It\'s not a secret) was very attentive to me at uni

today, and kept suggesting we go grab a bite to eat - \"or, of course, we could go back to mine? I think I\'ve

got some decent stuff in the fridge!\"

Needless to say, I was flattered but entirely in the wrong place to even

appreciate it. I told everyone that I was going to the library, but instead just scuttled back to the sanctuary of

my flat*, where I plan to see out today, for better or worse.

Steve

*Apartment

[Brian]

WOW!

I didn\'t get that the first time. I felt really messed up like I was stoned or something. It was a good feeling,

not one of depression. I never got that feeling after that. Hopefully, that will be the case for you.

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Brian

[Sexyredhead]

I\'m sorry you\'re feeling so down. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] Maybe go take a shower

and scrub most of it off. Then you might feel better?

[Icarus]

Yeh,

I figured that might be a good idea...

thanks!

I\'m feeling a little better now, anyway...

<scrub

WAGG:SPMO off list of usable combos!>

Steve

[DZorro]

</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
This is awful... I put some WAGG and SPMO (2:4) on

this morning, and have felt hideously depressed since about 10:30am...

It\'s a kind of claustrophobic

Nihilism... Trapped in my skull, despair over the lack of significance of anything, and chastising myself for

despairing... Urg..

This is the first time that I\'ve had this sort of reaction from Pheros...

On the

plus(?) side, got my first \'Gay\' hit today... Some *really* gay guy (stated without any prejudice, he just

is. It\'s not a secret) was very attentive to me at uni today, and kept suggesting we go grab a bite to

eat - \"or, of course, we could go back to mine? I think I\'ve got some decent stuff in the

fridge!\"

Needless to say, I was flattered but entirely in the wrong place to even appreciate it. I told

everyone that I was going to the library, but instead just scuttled back to the sanctuary of my flat*, where I plan

to see out today, for better or worse.

Steve

*Apartment

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class=\"post\">

Where did you apply WAGG/m, Icarus ????

I never use mones near my face anymore. I had that

same effect but only when wearing, A1 or The new Pheromax, near my face. So now i only apply it, at the back of my

head, whear i can\'t smell it. Or in my hair, is a great place too.


DZorro,

[krtel]

This

just goes to show that my theory of WAGG + nol = Disaster is true.

Krish

[Holmes]

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I never use mones near my face anymore. I had

that same effect but only when wearing, A1 or The new Pheromax, near my face. So now i only apply it, at the back of

my head, whear i can\'t smell it. Or in my hair, is a great place too.

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class=\"post\">

Good strategies, DZorro. I can\'t wear certain pheros within breathing range,

either.

Sorry to hear of your experience, Steve. I never really understood as to why -nol + WAGG were touted as

such a volatile combo asKrish and others had mentioned.) Your story cleared up any remaining mystery.

Still the

question remains: where did you apply \'em?


Holmes

[Icarus]

I

dun stuck em on my neck... baaaad move, it would appear!

Thanks for the support and advice, dudes (and where

would we be without the dudettes? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]).

I feel my usual *happy* self

today [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Who\'d have thunk that a bottle of liquid that smells

something like sweaty gymsocks could do...that?

Clearly a government conspiricy.

Yeehaw!

Steve

[Charisma]

</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
Yeh, I figured that might be a good

idea...

thanks!

I\'m feeling a little better now, anyway...

&lt;scrub WAGG:SPMO off list of usable

combos!&gt;

Steve


<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">
You can also decide to feel happy

now! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

[Sexyredhead]

</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
I dun stuck em on my neck... baaaad move, it

would appear!


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I believe between the toes might be the optimal

application area. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[cuddlebear]

Well, I have had success with WAGG and Nol, but here\'s one thing that might be relevant... I am not COMBINING

the two, they are worn on different spots of the body. SPMO on chest and sometimes wrists, WAGG on face.



This WAGG/NOL thing appears to be a serious issue, with numerous people, including long-time member Krtel,

reporting some serious side effects of combining the two, so I hope that at some point, we can get to the bottom of

that issue and figure out why and if we can do anything about it ....

I\'ve been wearing NOL for 8 years and

enjoy WAGG also, but gosh if the combo makes some of us \"nihilistic\", than that\'s pretty serious ...

[CptKipling]

WAGG + nol is bad for me too.

[franki]

Hmmm,

makes you wonder why on earth those two don\'t go well together..

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The good thing is both \"products\" are somewhat

similar in their effects (with WAGG being the more effective one in my opinion), so one doesn\'t need them both at

the same time.

I have to add I have not a great deal of experience with \"nol\", only used SOE and AE and

never tried \"nol\" on its own..

[Holmes]

</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
I\'ve been wearing NOL for 8 years and enjoy WAGG

also, but gosh if the combo makes some of us \"nihilistic\", than that\'s pretty serious ...

<hr

/></blockquote><font class=\"post\">
Yes, Nihilism is dire enough. Throw Claustrophobia (the fear of Santa) in

there and that could drive a man to distraction worse than any -nol/WAGG combo. (Oh...I see, it was the

-nol/WAGG combo that caused these afflictions, wasn\'t it? Sorry.)

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Holmes

[cuddlebear]

Holmes, you know I really hate to admit this, but you may be even crazier than I am ...

[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Franki, I can\'t get WAGG to work that well by itself, it

isn\'t until I use NOL along with it (not combined, but on separate parts of the body) that I get the real

results. Do you combine WAGG with a cologne or wear it straight?

[franki]

I use

it with -none products like TE and I believe it works fine that way for me.

[Holmes]

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Holmes, you know I really hate to admit this, but

you may be even crazier than I am ... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

<hr /></blockquote><font

class=\"post\">

LOL. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] A nutty bunch indeed, we artists.

[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]


Holmes

[Brian]

Like

Franki, I use WAGG with none products. I can\'t wear concentrated none products. I have to dilute them with a

cologne or with ethanol. When I wear WAGG, I can use the heavy none products without diluting them. The WAGG seems

to offset the adverse effects of the none, and I get better results.

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Brian

[Skyy]

Id

like to also add wagg + nol = sad skyy

Its a deep depression for me

[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

[Icarus]

Seems that a lot of us get bad jahoda from WAGG + -nol...

It shall be avoided!

Steve

[Skyy]

It\'s not like anyone hasnt warned anyone. If you check my past threads you will even see me preaching not to

usethe combo, im sure others have as well.



























LET THIS BE A

LESSON!!

:P

[Sagacious1420]

Curious. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

I get very good results w/ WAGG and

nol together and I apply to the neck, as well. However, I use both in combination w/ none and rone. I found that I

needed to play w/ the ratios a bit though. One thing I have found is that when I added WAGG to my usual combo of

NPA/AE/SOE, I can use less of both WAGG and SOE. I was using just NPA/AE/WAGG for a while but the results

weren\'t nearly as good as I have been getting since including the SOE again. As I said before, I had to tweek

the ratios a bit. I\'ve used all four products premixed and by applying each separately.

Ya know, we often

talk about individual body chemistry, and such, when it comes to personal succes w/ various products. I wonder if

this could apply to the unique effect of each product on each of us when we use them.

For example, IIRC,

didn\'t some ppl experience some mild depression w/ A1, but others didn\'t?

Curious indeed.

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[Brian]

</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
I\'ve used all four products premixed and by

applying each separately.

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

Sag,

Which works better, premixed or

applying seperately? I have all four products, and may want to try it.

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Brian

[Sagacious1420]

Brian-

In general, I prefer to apply separately. I feel that I get better control of the dosage of

each product. I\'ve switched from using drops of WAGG to dabs, now that I\'m incorporating SOE again. Usually

around 3-4 dabs of WAGG along w/ about 4\" of SOE. I can get away w/ another 2\" or so of SOE, but only if

applied to the wrists. If I don\'t use SOE, I use 2-3 drops WAGG. I have found that too much WAGG (w/out any

SOE) can backfire...too much of a great guy, it seems. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

[Brian]

Thanks Sag. I\'ll have to do some experimenting with your combo and see what I come up with. SoE has never done

sh!t for me as a standalone, but it kicks a$$ in the WKM#1 mix. I have found that 2 drops of WAGG works well while

wearing heavy none products such as PI/m or RM. The 2 none products do sh!t for me without the WAGG. Anyway, I have

an idea where I want to start with your combo. We\'ll see how it goes.

Brian

[cuddlebear]

Just to put this in the mix ... I am now wearing SOE gel on both arms (2 inch line) and WAGG/Polo Sport on my

wrists, and Cool Water + Nol on the back of my neck and a tiny wisp of None on the front of my neck. No rhyme or

reason for this motley crew, but I\'m feeling pretty good right now. A little better than normal. I think maybe

keeping the ingredients separate might allow people to use WAGG &amp; NOL, although I wouldn\'t blame Icarus for

staying away after his experience. Would like to hear if any of our forum members who suffered under WAGG &amp; NOL

combined, suffered any less when the two products were put on different spots on the body.

Cuddles