Perfuming Basics

[franki]

That sounds

like something for me. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[DrSmellThis]

It\'s

the one I use.

[Elana]

www.mothernature.com has free shipping today. If you need to pick up a

few oils for some of DST\'s mixes, you may as well take advantage of this because there is no minimum ordering

requirements.

Enter code: VETSDAY

[bjf]

Do you or

anybody else no about their thin to thick shampoo (on the front page)

My hair gets so greasy easily, I have to

use clarifying. I wonder if this will just make my hair greasy.

[Elana]

I don\'t

know anything about it?

I just ordered the unscented conditioner so I can mix in my own EO\'s for custom

smelling hair. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[Elana]

DST...both SRH and I placed large

orders for some of the oils we have been missing, including the Rose otto and Neroli. Now we are ready to play with

the big boys [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[Sexyredhead]

Yep, we bought ourselves

enough oils to wrassle in! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

We\'ll let you know when they come

in so you can buy tickets. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

[Elana]

I didn\'t do

anything yet. I just want to know if I am going in the right direction.

6 Sweet Orange or Neroli
4

Geranium
1 Vanilla or Benzoin
1 Sandalwood

[DrSmellThis]

Some good

elements. Would smell good.

When starting out, it helps to divide into 3 parts for top, mid and bottom, as I

suggested in the beginning. Your formula is top heavy, with little bottom and almost no mid.

[Elana]

I thought that

is what I did.
Isn\'t it Orange (T), Benzoin (M) and Sandalwood (B)?

[DrSmellThis]

Benzoin

is more of a base note, due to its extremely slow evaporation rate.

It also might be helpful to think of

the 3:2:1 ratio along with that scheme. You add up the drops in each category to get the ratio.

[DrSmellThis]

Yours

would be 10:1:1 if you considered benzoin a middle note, or 10:0:2 if a base note. (See first post in thread for

relevant criterion.) Applying the 3:2:1 \"rule\" should get your perfume in shape.

Keep in mind that something

can smell nice (like yours)without the rule, but we typically want perfumes to be balanced across the volatility

spectrum, as a \"complete smell experience\" that will develop nicely with time.

[Elana]

Sorry about

what I posted. I was not correct. This is what I thought I was doing...

6 Sweet Orange or Neroli (TOP)
4

Geranium (MIDDLE)
1 Vanilla or Benzoin (BASE)
1 Sandalwood (BASE)

[Sexyredhead]

Sooooooo...what might a girl use as a fixative if say, valerian root was on back order and she didn\'t know

another good source?

Hypothetically, of course. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[Sexyredhead]

Ok, to

list my newly stocked inventory of EO\'s (and to bump this thread up

[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]):

ylang ylang
rosemary
clary

sage
grapefruit
vetiver
bergamot
lavender
cinnamon leaf
lemon
lime
rosewood
eucalyptus
sweet

orange
palmarosa
red mandarin
tea tree
anise
ginger
geranium
cajeput
peppermint
german

chamomile
sandalwood
frankincense
niaouli
fir needle
wintergreen
neroli
myrrh
jasmine

absolute
benzoin
black pepper
clove bud
atlas cedarwood
patchouli
sweet birch
juniperberry
rose otto
bitter

orange


fragrance oils:

bayberry
pumpkin pie
almond
vanilla lace
amaretto

[Sexyredhead]

Ok,

I\'ve made Here Smell Me and Turning Oriental so far. Everything smells yummy.

[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] I used atlas cedarwood as a fixative instead of valerian root,

since I can\'t get valerian root right now. Both mixes are sitting through at least tomorrow and maybe until after

Thanksgiving before my final verdict.

[Holmes]

Yeah,

Valerian Root has been difficult to find for some reason. I might try substituting with Patchouli for the Randy

Pants. Will that work?


Holmes

[Sexyredhead]

Probably

because all the lurkers went out and bought it. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] To think we

caused a shortage in the world\'s supply of valerian root! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]

[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

Yes, I

would think patchouli would work fine. Does it already have patchouli in the recipe? Just make sure you don\'t

over-patchouli it.

[Elana]

DST...please give us

more [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

SRH...the black pepper addiction was a very nice idea. I

think I will add a bit more. I must be WAY overdoing my Essential oil to Jojoba. I used about 40 drops of EO to 160

drops of jojoba. After this mix I read that it should be about 2 drops of EO to every 90 drops of jojoba.

[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img] Oooops [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[Sexyredhead]

Just make a

great big batch. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

I\'m glad it\'s working. I may have to make

that one up too. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

[Whitehall]

A good guide to the

relative strengths of the various EOs is found in the back of Tisserard\'s book on Aromatheraphy. That table

should give you guidence on the relative mixing proportions when making a mix.

It also has an appendix on the

relative volitility. That\'s a guide to which EOs are top notes, which are fixatives, etc.

The part about the

astrological signs of the various EOs strains my personal

belief.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0892810017/qid=1069868017/sr=1-

27/ref=sr_1_27/104-9446896-6119150?v=glance&s=books

[DrSmellThis]

Hi all.

Patchouli, in relatively small quantities, is a good overall fixative. Cedar is a little weak in the base note for

overall fixation, but is a good mid/top fixative when you already have a base fixative, if that makes sense.

You

can substitute things for valerian, but they are all just as obscure. I will go there if folks request it. To make a

long story short, Angelica root is the easiest of them to find. But I would dilute angelica in jojoba 10:1 before

using.

It\'s fine to leave valerian out if you want. Animal notes are important, though.

[DrSmellThis]

Informative and

accurate post, WH. Relative volatility is good to know, although memorizing the numbers is not important, IMO.

[DrSmellThis]

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DST...please give us more

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SRH...the black pepper addiction was a very nice idea. I think

I will add a bit more. I must be WAY overdoing my Essential oil to Jojoba. I used about 40 drops of EO to 160 drops

of jojoba. After this mix I read that it should be about 2 drops of EO to every 90 drops of jojoba.

[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img] Oooops [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]




<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">What you were doing sounds fine, depending on whether you wanted

\"eau de perfume strength\". Weaker concentrations are good for \"eau de cologne\", body oils,

aftershaves, etc.

[Hungry]

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Clean, Sexy and Butt-Ass Lazy!

2 Sandalwood




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I\'ve been using the Randy Pants recipe for a couple

of weeks now,and I like it a lot, particularly the valarian root version. I was surprised to get a lot of looks

from women while wearing it. But, I have to admit, plain old sandalwood is still my favourite. It\'s what I

still use in my phero mixes.


Hungry

[Elana]

Where the

hell have you been, Hungry?

DST...we need some more recipes. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[Elana]

I just got a

really nice book today called \"The scented woman.\" It is a tiny little hard covered black book with just 10

recipes. I\'ll post them all eventually. Is that legal? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] All of

these use alcohol as the carrier. Here is the first one...

DELIGHT

60 drops of Cassis
9 drops of

Vetiver
6 drops of Cinnamon
6 drops of Pine Balsam.

Dilute to fill a 1/4 ounce bottle

[Elana]

INTRIGUE

40 drops of

Ambergris
16 drops of Jasmine
8 drops of Musk
4 drops of Frankincense

Dilute to fill a 1/4 ounce bottle

[Elana]

FRESH

24 drops of Sandalwood
20

drops of Neroli
12 drops of Rose
8 drops of Cinnamon
4 drops of Rosemary
4 drops of Lemongrass

Dilute to fill

a 1 ounce bottle

[Elana]

NIGHT

18 drops of Patchouli
9

drops of Vanilla
9 drops of Amber
30 drops of Neroli
18 drops of Jasmine

Dilute to fill a 1/4 ounce bottle