Rone & WAGG?

[Mad_Doc]

Ye AE and WAGG are

a fantastic combo, its all I wore at work for a month or 2 as its a a very \'safe\' mix, that nevr seemd to lead

to any negative reactions. The mix made me feel really confident as well. I only really stoped useing it in order to

experiment with different products.
However, when useing the mix out and about in pubs/clubs I found somthing

lacking, for some reason AE alone somtimes gets me stronger sexualy orientated hits in these situations

[Sagacious1420]

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Ye AE and WAGG are a fantastic combo, its all I

wore at work for a month or 2 as its a a very \'safe\' mix, that nevr seemd to lead to any negative reactions.

The mix made me feel really confident as well. I only really stoped useing it in order to experiment with different

products.
However, when useing the mix out and about in pubs/clubs I found somthing lacking, for some reason AE

alone somtimes gets me stronger sexualy orientated hits in these situations

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How much WAGG do you use w/ AE? Do you use the same dosages for work and at pubs/clubs?

[Mad_Doc]

For work its 1 drop

AE on neck and 1 drop WAGG on collar. I find its best to keep the none to a minimum at work.
In pubs/clubs its 3 or

4 drops AE on skin, and 1 or 2 drops WAGG on clothing.
Do\'nt get me wrong I get hits with the last combo its

just that AE alone seems to have a stronger effect at attracting women.

[pico]

Mad Doc,
Try 4

drops AE and 2 dabs (with the dropper top off) WAGG for clubbing.
You may even want to add a dab of NPA or PI to

this. I find you can easily get away with a \"bit more\" none when wearing even small amounts of WAGG.

I

think 2 dabs is the optimum for WAGG - anymore with me and it seems to stop the other pheros having their attraction

effect, as I appear \"too nice!\"

just my 2cents

[Sexyredhead]

Four drops?

Wow, that seems like a lot! Does that not give you a major buzz?

[pico]

nah, I\'m not really

affected by pheromones myself!! I think too much none makes me aggressive, but that is when I use 3 drops of PI with

a drop of NPA ! (yes I\'ve actually done this, had people mouthing me off for no apparent reason. I went back home

and added 3 drops of WAGG. When I got back 30 mins later everything was normal again (no phero effects)

[Sagacious1420]

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For work its 1 drop AE on neck and 1 drop WAGG on

collar. I find its best to keep the none to a minimum at work.
In pubs/clubs its 3 or 4 drops AE on skin, and 1 or

2 drops WAGG on clothing.
Do\'nt get me wrong I get hits with the last combo its just that AE alone seems to have

a stronger effect at attracting women.

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A 1 drop dose of AE sounds

reasonable for the work setting as it\'s a very minimal amount of none, but you could probably still get away w/

just a dab or two of WAGG along w/ this.

As far as getting better hits in clubs w/ AE solo, it\'s probably due

to the WAGG dosage you\'re using along w/ it. When I first began testing WAGG in phero combos, I found that drops

were less effective than dabs. For a while I was testing the buffering effect of WAGG on none and found that you

can match WAGG and none drop for drop w/out any OD reactions...no other reactions as well though. That is, equal

parts of WAGG and none seems to render the none ineffective somehow. For example, for a while I was using 4 drops

of NPA/m along w/ 4 drops of WAGG and I had no hits or OD reactions. For me 4 drops of NPA/m is a definite OD so I

can\'t attribute the lack of reactions to the NPA/WAGG combo to Indifference Theory and I didn\'t notice any

evidence of Social Hookup Theory as I would see definite OD reactions that much NPA solo. Now I doubt that matching

10 drops of WAGG w/ 10 drops of NPA/m would temper an OD reaction. lol

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I\'ve also

found that I had to be mindful of the ratio of nol to WAGG. For me, no more than 5 parts nol to 1 part WAGG works

best.

It\'s been a while since I\'ve done any drop/dab combos, but when I was, the one that worked best when

incorporating WAGG was 3 drops AE/m: 2 dabs NPA/m: 3 or 4 dabs of WAGG, iirc. Like I said, it\'s been a while. I

was getting good results w/ a combo of 3 drops AE/m: 2 dabs NPA/m: 3 drops SOE at the time and I think I just subbed

WAGG dabs for SOE drops. But if iirc, I started by replacing the 3 drops of SOE w/ 3 dabs of WAGG, but found that 4

dabs worked better.

HTH

[Sexyredhead]

With more than

2 drops of AEw, I\'m bouncing off the walls and my adrenaline is crazy. I literally have to wash it off!
Does

that not happen with the guys wearing AEm? Or does the WAGG offset that effect?

[Sagacious1420]

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With more than 2 drops of AEw, I\'m bouncing off

the walls and my adrenaline is crazy. I literally have to wash it off!
Does that not happen with the guys wearing

AEm? Or does the WAGG offset that effect?

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Given the effect that

rone has on you, I\'m curious as to whether you can differentiate the effect of the rone and none and to what

degree. It\'s quite possible that a 2 drop dose of AE/w is overwhelming because you are wearing it. I

posted in another thread about higher dosages being overwhelming in close proximity. I get a phero rush from AE/m

at a 2-3 drop dose, but it isn\'t overwhelming to me or others. I don\'t find that the addition of WAGG has any

noticable effect on me, but it definitely seems to for others. To me that just means that WAGG is doing it\'s job

of lessening the CE/LW perception that others can have of me.

[Sexyredhead]

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With more than 2 drops of AEw, I\'m bouncing off the walls and my

adrenaline is crazy. I literally have to wash it off!
Does that not happen with the guys wearing AEm? Or does the

WAGG offset that effect?

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Given the effect that rone has on you,

I\'m curious as to whether you can differentiate the effect of the rone and none and to what degree. It\'s

quite possible that a 2 drop dose of AE/w is overwhelming because you are wearing it. I posted in another

thread about higher dosages being overwhelming in close proximity. I get a phero rush from AE/m at a 2-3 drop dose,

but it isn\'t overwhelming to me or others. I don\'t find that the addition of WAGG has any noticable effect on

me, but it definitely seems to for others. To me that just means that WAGG is doing it\'s job of lessening the

CE/LW perception that others can have of me.

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Are you asking if

I can differentiate the -rone and -none in the AEw or in general? I really think it\'s the -rone that\'s causing

the \'high\' I get from it. When I wear just -nol or -none, I don\'t get that reaction. Only when -rone is

thrown in the mix. (Again I wonder if it\'s the -rone itself that\'s causing this, or it\'s amplifying the

affects of the others?)
I think it is overwhelming to me because I\'m wearing it. I just wonder that the

guys don\'t get overwhelmed either when they wear so much! If I wear more than one drop of AEw, I have to mix it

in lotion and really spread it out, or I\'m high all day.

[Sagacious1420]

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Are you asking if I can differentiate the -rone and

-none in the AEw or in general? I really think it\'s the -rone that\'s causing the \'high\' I get from it.

When I wear just -nol or -none, I don\'t get that reaction. Only when -rone is thrown in the mix. (Again I wonder

if it\'s the -rone itself that\'s causing this, or it\'s amplifying the affects of the others?)
I think it

is overwhelming to me because I\'m wearing it. I just wonder that the guys don\'t get overwhelmed either

when they wear so much! If I wear more than one drop of AEw, I have to mix it in lotion and really spread it out,

or I\'m high all day.

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">Yeah, I was curious if it was the rone,

considering your comments about rone in the past. I don\'t think that rone has the same effect on men as it does

w/ women. I\'m not saying that it doesn\'t have an effect on men, it\'s just different. I think I posted

about the effect on me in the past. Maybe I can find that post....



Here it is.

[Gossamer_2701]

I\'ve tried

AE/w at 3d and did feel a bit of a buzz from it, but it wasn\'t as strong as the same amt of AE/m and didn\'t

last more than 25-30 min.

[Mad_Doc]

Sagacious1420 and

Pico:Thanks for the advice, I will try dabs of WAGG this weekend to test it out. I take it ur dabbing the WAGG onto

the skin. I have tryd this a couple of times in the past, but only with NPA/w and that combo didnt do anything for

me.
As to WAGG negating the negative effects of none, last Sat night I wore 3 drops AE, 3 dabs APC, around the

local pubs. As all of this was applyde to my neck thats pushing the level where I start to see negative effects from

a few males. I was also wearing 2 drops WAGG applyde to my clothing that night however and it did make a big

difference, seeming to almost totally eliminate negative reactions.
Unfortunatly their wernt any sexual hits

though, apart from a few stares that I always get when I wear a half decent mix

[bigdog]

I\'ve read on here

rone seems to get women revved up. I wonder how women would react to a guy with only a rone OD?

[pico]

i recall a post where

some guy spilt tons of CS rone inside a girls car, and that girl from then on was really angry whenever she was in

her car for months I think...!
My thoughts are that rone works best in smaller quantities. A clue to this must be

the ratio of nol to rone in SOE - J Kohl must have done a lot of research into this before releasing SOE.

[Max]

Well, that\'s what

I read from some posts in this forum. But how exactly I should go about mixing is still not very clear.

[jvkohl]

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A clue to this must be the ratio of nol to rone in

SOE - J Kohl must have done a lot of research into this before releasing SOE.

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1 mg/ml of rone in mineral oil was almost always considered
pleasant. 2mg/ml was almost always

aversive. Makes sense when you look at the amount secreted; differences in men and women, et al. But first I tried

it on several hundred people, to increase certainty.

[pico]

I\'m interested in

two things:

Has anyone tried a rone heavy mix (about 50% rone) with WAGG?

Has anyone tried A1 + WAGG, and A1 +

Rone + WAGG?

In both cases I think there has to be some none and nol for the combo to work, but maybe trying out

not too much (25% of each maybe?), but I\'m just guessing this.