Lesbian Wedding advice needed please.

[Ash]

This Saturday I will be attending the wedding of two very nice young women. I am a straight male and will probably be one of the only straight people there. I do love an adventure. I was the only male at their house last Thanksgiving for dinner and was amazed at how hostile everyone was to me. The two young women getting married and I get along great but their friends were IN MY FACE the whole time. One insulting comment after another but I was COOL, I let the insults slide right past and enjoyed myself the best I could. I was not using mones at the time. I\'m actually looking forward to this event as I\'m thinking it could be lots of fun if I have the right mone combo on. Here is my inventory:

WAGG
SOE
PI
PPA
AE
NPA/w
NPA/m

Had I known a little more about mones when I placed my order I would not have gone so heavy on the none as I\'m more of the CE, Lone Wolf kinda guy. I think my natural mone scent is heavy to the none side and this has caused problems for me through out my life. I\'m 52, bright, articulate, well educated, witty, good looking, etc., etc., and naturally I\'m not looking to get sexed at or after the wedding. I just want to have a good time. I would not be adverse to the idea of shorting out some Lesbian circuitry though. What are your thoughts? The more diabolical the better! The wedding is at 5:00 this Saturday afternoon so I\'ll be dosing up around 4:00 and it could be a long night as there is a dinner and dancing following the wedding (Union Ceremony).
Thanks!
Ash

[Elana]

You don\'t need mones for the wedding, those women need to learn some manners. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

WAGG would probably be your best bet [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[CJ01]

I agree, these women have no manners or really bad PMS.
Well from personal experiences cpoulins work very well. I know I´m a woman and stuff but not all women are nice to all other women. Copulins can help to make bitchy women friendlier. So that´s my tip. Try Wagg and cops or SOE and cops.
CJ

[Holmes]

But definitely not WAGG annnd SOE! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Holmes

[oscar]

Ash,

You probably can\'t go too far wrong wearing WAGG. It doesn\'t really seem to send out much of a \"male pig\" signal, so it shouldn\'t really rub the lesbians in attendance the wrong way. Frenchie has attested to its effectiveness as a lesbian attractant, but then that\'s when it was worn by a woman, so play it safe and don\'t lay it on too heavily.

As for \"short circuiting\" via mones, I think the product most likely to give you interesting results along these lines would be the NPA/w. But again, go easy on it. There\'s no telling what effect it may have given your target audience.

I wouldn\'t preclude the possibility that there MAY be some heterosexual women at the wedding though, so it might be a good idea to have a light to middle-weight A-None product up your sleeve just in case. For this I would carry a bit of PPA/m or (preferably) AE. Having your SOE with you might be a good idea as well. Try applying stuff to your wrists and forearms, that way in the event you seem to be getting bad reactions, you can hit the restroom and wash most of it off.

I\'d leave the PI and NPA/m off and at home for this particular occasion. Judging by what you said about yourself, they would probably be a bit much for this affair.

Good Luck! Have Fun! I hope you catch the garter, or the bouquet, or whatever they may be tossing your way. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Oscar [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

[oscar]

Elana and CJ,

I hadn\'t addressed the behavior of the couple\'s friends in my post above, but I\'m glad to see you ladies did.

Isn\'t it ironic how often groups (and I\'m not only talking about lesbians or gays here) who cry out for Tolerance when they are in the minority, show little or none themselves when they are in the majority.
A sad facet of human nature, I suppose.

Oscar [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[druid]

i say put on some wagg. and if they give you any sh-t tell them in a polite yet firm matter-of-factly way that you won\'t tolerate it.

[CJ01]

yeah that´s true. I can´t quiete understand why those women were so hostile but some people are just like that by nature.

I wouldn´t worry too much about the hetero women at that wedding because even without -none things should be fun.

I don´t get why guys (or girls) always seem to try and get themselves hooked up at such occasions. A lot of times they come across are pretty desparate [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] Much better to get really pissed and have a good laugh. If there is someone there you can always meet up again can´t you. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

[frenchie]

my suggestion is WAGG, maybe on its own. It shouldn\'t do any wrong.

As to these women\'s manners... a lot of lesbians are quite aggressive towards men - as well as some gay guys really don\'t care at all about women. I don\'t understand this behavior but anyway... it\'s true, they should learn some manners and at least forget their aggressivity on a Thanksgiving day. We\'re all human beings. But this is something you must take into consideration when you\'re with lesbians, or gays, or any other minority : the social codes are not the same.

Anyway, being straight and invited to a lesbian wedding is great !

[CJ01]

Another thought: Isn´t it `normal´ to be stressed out and permanently pisse off on thanksgiving in the USA? I mean according to most movies this is almost `compulsary´ isn´t it [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

[CJ01]

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Anyway, being straight and invited to a lesbian wedding is great !



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I agree I mean it must be a good sign and these `friends´should respect that and show some consideration right?

What about hetero women frenchie?

[darkness]

they don\'t celebrate that in europe, huh?

There is stress around it, but most people are fairly hppy. They don\'t have to go into work, watch football, get fat, kids have no school.

[darkness]

what do lesbians think of bi-curious women? resentment or let\'s convert them?

[CJ01]

gays don´t like bi people. Yeah, yeah, talk about tolerance, ey?

[darkness]

they feel like it is trivializing what it is to like the same sex? they feel like those people don\'t really know what the experience of \"truly\" be attracted to the same sex, and also the judgment and diffulties that go along with that???

[CJ01]

Apparently they reckon bi people just want the best of both worlds and that they´re never serious and so on.
However bisexuality is completely normal.

I dunno mate. If it´s okay to be gay it should be fine to be bi too, where´s the big deal? Hardly any relationship lasts happily forever anyhow.

[druid]

bisexual women are A-OK in my book. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[CJ01]

yes, but you´re not a jealous dyke who´s got problems with men [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

[EXIT63]

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Another thought: Isn´t it `normal´ to be stressed out and permanently pisse off on thanksgiving in the USA? I mean according to most movies this is almost `compulsary´ isn´t it [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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You\'ve been watching too many movies. Thanksgiving is a time to eat like a pig and drink like a fish...and be thankful that we can. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[frenchie]

Ash : if your friends have invited you, it\' a sign they\'re confident and they want to share something important with you [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
Take it easy if other women don\'t have the same point of you - if they have nothing to say, just stay apart. But if they get to know you better (and the reverse), things could change, he ?

CJ : bisexuality is \"normal\", I agree with you. The only point is that it\'s a bit more complicated for everyday life... I have a friend who seems to be gay, after a difficult period where he collected one-night or one-week stands with guys or girls indifferently. Everyone loves him ! But he was fed up with this life, changing boy/girl-friend every other day without really knowing where to go. Now he has a boyfriend.

I think it\'s a question of person : if you meet someone you love, that someone may be a man or a woman. Nobody should get you into trouble with that.

[Icarus]

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so it shouldn\'t really rub the lesbians in attendance the wrong way.

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Awesome.

Sorry if my contribution is of no use.

Steve

[xvs]

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Another thought: Isn´t it `normal´ to be stressed out and permanently pisse off on thanksgiving in the USA? I mean according to most movies this is almost `compulsary´ isn´t it [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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This is hilarious!

Actually, turkey meat makes you sleepy, so they say (the high tryptophan content...).

[Sagacious1420]

Frenchie-

Well said! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

[CJ01]

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I think it\'s a question of person : if you meet someone you love, that someone may be a man or a woman. Nobody should get you into trouble with that.


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frenchie that´s exactly what I´ve been saying for ages (hence my bi thingy ages ago [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img] )
But some gay people don´t seem to like this idea still, but I can´t help them on that one, man

CJ [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[Ash]

Thanks one and all for the input. I decided to go with WAGG and Cops. I can do the WAGG on my cover shirt for the afternoon event and see how things go. When the cool night air comes down on us I\'ll change to a Sweater and add some SOE and maybe some NPA/w.

As to the Lesbian debate, I can\'t help but feel that they ( the women that were in my face) really did have some serious issues with men as a group. Who knows what is really happening but from what I can put together there are women that are born that way and women that get wired that way from sexual and or physical abuse. I think that all the women I met on Thanksgiving fall into the abuse camp. The Girls that are to wed are both very tender hearted people but you can tell that they are also very wounded souls. It\'s also very obvious their relationship is about companionship and not so much about sex as is the case with many true Lesbian relationships. The Bi -Girls I know and have known are a whole different thing altogether. They may have issues and maybe they don\'t but they sure are lots of fun in every respect!

Ya know, \"It ain\'t easy being green!\"

Thanks again!
Ash

[CJ01]

Wel I hope you all have a good time at the wedding.

YOu know those type of women like the ones that were `in your face´ also have problems with straight women. As in: Why on earth do you bother with those hairy pigs´ . And whilst that is a good question in somecases... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
But they´re also in the habit of trying to convert the rest of us. - No thank you! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]

Do you really think that you´re friends would bother getting married if they didn´t also have great sex together? I mean marriage is a pretty big step to take for anyone.
CJ

[Ash]

I hear what you\'re saying CJ and I\'m not saying sex is not part of the relationship. My understanding is that with true Lesbian couples sex isn\'t that big a part of the relationship especially compared to Gay men who, for the most part, have very compulsive sexual behavior and relationships. The gay men I knew when I was living in SF would go out and \"trick\" with up to 15 men a night and steady relationships with them would be very sexually oriented. You don\'t see this kind of behavior in the Lesbian community. Lesbian relationships tend more toward old married straight couples. You know, once a month but only if they remembered to refill the Viagra Rx. HAHA. The Bi-Girls I know just want to have fun. I really love Bi-Girls.

[CJ01]

That´s not what I´ve noticed about lesbians! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] I´ve noticed what you´ve described about gay men though ( dirty buggers) [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] but also the opposite ie some prefer a normal type of relationship.

I reckon that when it comes down to it that gay people are just like straight ones and the same goes for the various type of relationships they prefer. You know, some sleep around, some don´t, some are picky others aren´t. What do you think?
CJ

[frenchie]

\"Lesbian relationships tend more toward old married straight couples\"
yep, it\'s true for many of us. But many girls are like butterflies and change gf every other day, especially in big towns where they can meet many people. It\'s the same for gays guys, who are a lot more sensible than one may think... I mean they\'re not all those beasts who spend every day and night f#cking.
It\'s the same for heteros. Some old straight couples are really traditional, boring, and close minded - hidden behind traditions like marriage, family, family in law, ... Maybe the difference is that we gays don\'t want this kind of life and routine... so we make things different. In this way, the bi are fun, but I\'m not sure they\'re happier as they have to choose every time they meet someone : guy, girl, yes ? no ?...

But why try to put things into categories ? I have a gf, I\'m starting to fall in love, we have sex, we talk, we do some cooking together, we just walk on the street hand in hand. Just like everyone else, eh ?

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[CJ01]

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In this way, the bi are fun, but I\'m not sure they\'re happier as they have to choose every time they meet someone : guy, girl, yes ? no ?...


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God I´d love that [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

CJ