Couplins: did me well

[franki]

Last saturday when I was in a club, I tried to dance next to and with this group of girls. They were mostly ignoring me though. A few minutes later, some other girl (that I didn\'t know before) joins the group and for some reason starts smiling /flirting with/at me. Suddenly all of the other girls are also interested and start smiling too. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[Whitehall]

Since FTR says I\'m \"just dead wrong\", I\'ll ignore my 35 years of field experience pursuing women, forget everything I learned, and take FTR\'s opinion as TRUTH in spite of direct experential evidence otherwise. Not to mention the colloborating experience of other observers that will have to be ignored to avoid contradicting her opinion.

[**DONOTDELETE**]

You\'re a wild success with the women. I stand corrected.

Get behind Whitehall on this one, I\'m sure he knows exactly what he\'s talking about.

[xxxPantero]

Whitehall, FTR, IT\'S SHAMELESS THE WAY YOU TWO FLIRT!

[MOBLEYC57]

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Is it possible that different beliefs work for different people? !!!

Whitehall\'s works for him. FTR\'s works for her.

Dammit, I love you guys, but sometimes you all sound like missionaries trying to convince another that your way is the right way. Maybe we\'re all right. Maybe we\'re all wrong. Maybe I shouldn\'t be jumping in the middle and playing Mr. Rogers, either. But oh well.

Now, laugh at my joke.

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All we need is L O O O O O O O V E. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Now take off your gloves and come out kissing! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

[xxxPantero]

Here\'s something I just thought about the copulins when worn by men.

I had stated in another post that women don\'t need love to have sex, just trust. Most, if not all the women validated that. It could perhaps be that copulins, in giving the male wearer a slightly feminine smell, makes women more subconsciously trusting. Women will usually trust another woman vs. a man, so maybe the -none combined with the -cops gives the \"hey, i\'m aroused by him, and oh good, i trust him! now we can have sex!\" thought pattern.

Still don\'t know. I\'ve gotta test this out.

Any challenges or confirmations on this?

[Watcher]

Trust and competitiveness, ive seen both occour.

[**DONOTDELETE**]

Sage words from another expert on women.

[DrSmellThis]

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[DrSmellThis]

Dear Monkeys, some time soon I\'ll have to tell y\'all about the wild Korean-American woman I\'ve been seeing. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] She lives half way between Bruce\'s town and mine. I can say that the last time I got laid by her (the night the picture with Bruce and Daryn was taken, in fact), the next AM I went to a coffee shop, where a young woman I did not know, Cami, became very aggressive with her sexual inuendos toward me. Our discussion became very graphic (e.g., \"licking assholes\" [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]). She gave me her number, gave me a lingering full body hug, and virtually begged me to call her. She is a single mom, and claimed she was not looking for a committment (monkey bait?), and swore she <font color=\"brown\">was not looking to lick my assh*le. </font>(I am not making this up! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]) I must have been reeking of pussy, [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img] as I hadn\'t showered after an all night sex marathon.

<font color=\"blue\">I hereby demand that all bald monkey subjects, henceforth, call the following, \"DrSmellThis\' Most Excellent Theory of Whitehall\'s, ahem, Theory\". Thus spake the King. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] </font> [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

Alpha males tend to lay all the women, so women must at least tend to put up with SPM (strange pussy mones). On the other hand my ex girlfriend flipped when I was wearing EW, accusing me of cheating. Lots of folks seem to have it happen these ways, as I had in the examples.

Single women tend to react to pheros differently than do partnered women, as being around a man consistently changes a woman\'s hormones and pheromones radically. The nature of this varies upon the biological type (as regards immune/hormone profiles) of the male partner.

Single women tend to like messy, smelly men more than \"spic and span\" men, even when they say otherwise. How dare I? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img] Well, women are socialized to deny that they\'re just an exceptionally adaptive and relatively hairless species of monkey, moreso than are men (who are, nonetheless, socialized this way too.)

Women in relationships, on the other hand, have less use for men\'s mating pheromones. They have already made their choice of mates, and are now interested in keeping their mate around, biologically speaking (unless, say, the woman is with a turtle face*, [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img] in which case she will be more likely to seek a stinkin\' alpha male sperm donor, as noted in Sperm Wars.). These women tend to like their men freshly showered with fruity-flavored Dial soap; their hair combed, etc. (\"Yes, dear. Can I retract back into my shell, now?\" [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img] And why does the gardener have to sleep in our bed again, honey? That shed is <font color=\"blue\"> too coold for my reptilian blood!</font>) Partnered women\'s reproductive interests are best served if their men don\'t smell pheromonal, which could be a threat to their children\'s security in the event of \"incoming hussies\". So they develop hygiene control preferences and rationalize them using biologically manipulative concepts such as <font color=\"red\">\"Gross!\"</font> [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

In fact, if the man hangs around his female partner consistently, her pheromones will trigger his testosterone levels to fall, and his hormone/pheromone signature will become \"domesticated\". Haven\'t y\'all noticed that married men seem to act differently than do single men, on average? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img] Quite a bit of that difference, I believe, is hormone-centered.

Sperm Wars is a good book for learning to think like a monkey -- an important skill for us bald monkeys to have, after all! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

(* a reference to Tokyo Decadence, my favorite porn movie [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img])

[NeTwOrXx]

Hi,


i still awaiting my \"NEW\"(New EW) and i hope that\'s have some +efects on women.
may it\'s not the same when you be seen with a women or smell \"like a women\" ???

Elana say:
Well, then maybe its just that I am rather arrogant. I don\'t even notice guys that are with women. I notice the lone wolf. I notice the lone wolf that approches me and gives ME his attention. If he feels the need to split it with some other females, I am gone, gone, gone

is it the same reaction, when you see a lone wolf and he is smell like \"sexulal active\" ???

[franki]

Haha, excellent post Doctor Smell. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

[MOBLEYC57]

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Haha, excellent post Doctor Smell. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

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Buon giorno tutti! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] What Franki said! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

And fa the restofyous...life has it as...everyone doesn\'t see it as SRH and El....billions are, billions aren\'t...billions do, and billions don\'t. And that\'s the way it tis! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] We know this, right? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

Doc - This is the second time I\'ve run into the meantionings of Sperm Wars...I\'ve looked once, now I guess it\'s time to search for it again. Tis it an interesting read? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

[CptKipling]

DST this hit it, nice work.

But also Whitehall:
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Most ladies will respect an obvious relationship and not interfer. It is when the couple is NOT sending out \"togetherness\" signals - when the man is being supplicated - that the other women home in. Kind of like sharks smelling blood in the water.

If the woman is trying hard and the guy is not biting then other women start to wonder what is so great about this guy and see him as especially desirable. After all, the supplicating woman is showing that he\'s got something going.

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The women who are not so attracted to the cops will tend to be the (truely) confident ones. They know what they want already, and dont need no stinkin\' social vali-fvckin\'-dation ( [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] ) to tell you what is good.

The ones that react positively are the less experienced daters (usually), often flaky, and do want to be with a very alpha man, but they need help working out what one is, hence the social validation.

DAMN I\'m good. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

[Whitehall]

As usual, DrSmellThis has produced an excellent summary of the issues and added important concepts to the mix.

The most extreme example of social validation is groupies. The guys in the band are the center of attention and causing intense emotions with their music. When one woman publicly expresses her desires, that encourages other women to do the same. Looking at a young Bob Dylan, you\'d never guess he would attract a lot of female attention but he did. Liberace was an even more bizarre example. The underlying logic is that if these guy(s) are hot, the male children they father will be hot too and will likely have all these women lusting for them. Groupies are typically young and inexperienced and not too sophisticated.

Women of strong mind and sexual sophistication, such as are our Elana, FTR, Goddess, Lucky, etc, are far less likely to be influenced by social validation and more likely to be use other factors in their selection of sexual partners.

Also, most women know that sex with a responsible male who will contribute to the child\'s welfare is a better, more socially acceptable choice compared to choosing a transient, irresponsible sperm donor and putting the burdens of child-rearing onto the community. Yet, both factors (among others) can dominant at different times.

As I\'ve pointed out repeatedly, a woman has to make very complex calculations (subconsciously) in her choice of both when to have sex and with whom. No one fully, consciously understands everything about the process, even women.

For anyone looking for a better understanding of the underlying evolutionary processes, I will second DrSmellThis\' recommendation of \"Sperm Wars.\" It is a must-read for those of us who attempt to enlist science in our drive to get laid.

[elvido]

I love how in the end everyone got their piece of cake, and was proven right. Welcome to the forum of the smoooooooth. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[CptKipling]

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[DrSmellThis]

An afterthought:

Another reason why cops are probably good on a man:

Conversion!

Do you think that the pussy mones I was wearing on my Dick&amp;balls Jeans at the aforementioned coffee shop stayed that way long, chemically? I doubt it seriously. That\'s MY pussy smell now! Whwooee. Yep. Can\'t touch that! What can I help you with, Honey?

Do you think nature might have built in mechanisms for making the smell of conquest into somethingthing interesting and remarkable itself? I\'d bet on it.

So what does that mean for us naughty monkeys? God we are sooo naughty, by the way! Dogs and whores, all of us! It means, ahem, apply cops where they would naturally end up -- your crotch and ass!

And don\'t forget your face and hands for the leftovers. No! Down, Mobley! Down, boy! Off the couch! NO! GET YER SNOTTY NOSE OUTTA THERE! AAHH! Hey, THAT\'S COLD! I thought Gene Simmons had a long one. Help! Myrna, I thought you was gonna get him fixed!? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

[Skyy]

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An afterthought:

Another reason why cops are probably good on a man:

Conversion!

Do you think that the pussy mones I was wearing on my Dick&amp;balls Jeans at the aforementioned coffee shop stayed that way long, chemically? I doubt it seriously. That\'s MY pussy smell now! Whwooee. Yep. Can\'t touch that! What can I help you with, Honey?

Do you think nature might have built in mechanisms for making the smell of conquest into somethingthing interesting and remarkable itself? I\'d bet on it.

So what does that mean for us naughty monkeys? God we are sooo naughty, by the way! Dogs and whores, all of us! It means, ahem, apply cops where they would naturally end up -- your crotch and ass!

And don\'t forget your face and hands for the leftovers. No! Down, Mobley! Down, boy! Off the couch! NO! GET YER SNOTTY NOSE OUTTA THERE! AAHH! Hey, THAT\'S COLD! I thought Gene Simmons had a long one. Help! Myrna, I thought you was gonna get him fixed!? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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The area\'s you mentioned are good, but wouldnt it result in to much copulins? I think most who do apply it only use 1/2 inch to max 1 inch of pcc, &lt;--- that small ammount alone wouldbe difficult to spread out

[**DONOTDELETE**]

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An afterthought:

Another reason why cops are probably good on a man:

Conversion!

Do you think that the pussy mones I was wearing on my Dick&amp;balls Jeans at the aforementioned coffee shop stayed that way long, chemically? I doubt it seriously. That\'s MY pussy smell now! Whwooee. Yep. Can\'t touch that! What can I help you with, Honey?

Do you think nature might have built in mechanisms for making the smell of conquest into somethingthing interesting and remarkable itself? I\'d bet on it.

So what does that mean for us naughty monkeys? God we are sooo naughty, by the way! Dogs and whores, all of us! It means, ahem, apply cops where they would naturally end up -- your crotch and ass!

And don\'t forget your face and hands for the leftovers. No! Down, Mobley! Down, boy! Off the couch! NO! GET YER SNOTTY NOSE OUTTA THERE! AAHH! Hey, THAT\'S COLD! I thought Gene Simmons had a long one. Help! Myrna, I thought you was gonna get him fixed!? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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Now we have the Conversion Theory of Copulins.

Ya\'ll will do anything to smell pussy, I swear. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[metroman]

This is one of the greatest threads in the history of the Forum thus far! I\'ve been laughing my ass off at the back &amp; forth between the guys &amp; gals. Whoever puts the stars on the threads they should put at least 5 on this one. I do agree that the more intelligent members of the female species are less likely to have their directions in life controlled by Darwinian processes...I\'ve been heming &amp; hawing whether or not to try coups but after this I\'m definetly going to order some &amp; try them out...Dr Smell This &amp; Whitehall excellent posts...I think this also points up the issue of the fairly prevalent phenomenon of the single woman taking up with the married guy. There are plenty of single guys out there but she\'s drawn to Mr. socially validated. He\'s married, employed, probably has some offspring. What is the rationalization for this Ladies??? Huh...Huh...

[**DONOTDELETE**]

You can f*ck his brains out and hand him back to his wife to worry about. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] He can\'t get but so involved in your daily life, so you remain a free agent.

Got nothing to do with social validation.

[MOBLEYC57]

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\"> Now we have the Conversion Theory of Copulins.

Ya\'ll will do anything to smell pussy, I swear. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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Yup! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] It does just fine on the upper lip. Wake up in the morning to the OUTSTANDING aroma of poosay coming from your lip. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] MARVELOUS! Just MARVELOUS I SAY! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img] Better than annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnny cup of coffee!! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] Annnd! Taste great! Less filling! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

And the Perfume and Colonge of the Year!!.............PUSSY by Bruce. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

[metroman]

Oh yeah thats why you ladies dont become emotionally involved. So when he finally breaks it off &amp; has his fill you dont become distraught at all. Why you never entertain fantasies of him leaving his wife to be with you. Which never really happens. Guys congratulate yourselves. I think we have them in a corner. 1 up for the guys in the battle of the sexes. Gloat...Gloat... Elana, Enticing, Da Vinci Kittie, Super Sexy Red Head Where are you...Dont Leave poor FTR twisting in the wind all by herself...

[**DONOTDELETE**]

Yes, of course. You know I\'m notoriously stupid. If I were with a married man, I\'d be DESPERATE for him to leave his wife -- so he could cheat on me.

Wake up, Metroman! You\'re the one with the romantic delusions. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Does it not occur to you that the woman could just as well break it off after she\'s had her fill?

Please don\'t make all the conversations between the men and the women be about one upmanship. It\'s boring.

Whitehall commented that the women\'s objection to the the theory re social acceptance flies in the face of his and other men\'s observation.
I think where we part ways is not so much in the observation of the phenomenon, it\'s in the interpretation of what the women are thinking. THAT part none of the women on the forum agree with.

I\'ve been mulling it over and it\'s true that a guy who walks in with a woman on his arm is more readily accepted by other women than the guy who walks in by himself. But to say that that means the woman validated the guy and therefore the other women would find him desirable does not sit well with the women here, and there are enough of us that maybe it\'s worth something if we all say it just doesn\'t feel right.

Honest to god, as much as I love a good debate, my purpose here is not to start fights but for everybody to get laid and be happy. I only point out stuff that doesn\'t feel right from the women\'s point of view in an effort to be helpful.

[Elana]

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. Guys congratulate yourselves. I think we have them in a corner. 1 up for the guys in the battle of the sexes

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Are you serious????? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]
You sound a little crazy [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

[Elana]

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Wake up, Metroman! You\'re the one with the romantic delusions. Does it not occur to you that the woman could just as well break it off after she\'s had her fill?

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Wow! I have never heard of that happening. No woman I know would ever do something like that. You must always stand by your man. Hold on for a second....my waist cincher is getting too tight.

[**DONOTDELETE**]

It\'s appears that it\'s hard to imagine that a woman could want passionate sex with no accountability as much as a man might. It tickles me a little, the Harlequin Romance view of the Other Woman, pining away. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

[Sagacious1420]

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It\'s appears that it\'s hard to imagine that a woman could want passionate sex with no accountability as much as a man might.

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How could one night stands be possible if this weren\'t true? I have to say that I\'ve had many more encounters w/ these types of women, than not, whether it be a one night stand, friends w/ benefits or they\'re in an emotionally (or financially,in a couple of cases) satisfying relationship, but just not getting the sexual satisfaction they desire. These types of \"relationships\" are virtually hassle free and everything is up front right away...no ambiguity...just amazing sex. In my experience, these women have been my most skilled lovers, as well.
My first encounter of this kind was around 21 or 22 yrs. old. I was introduced to this sexy Hawaiian girl about 24 or 25 yrs. old...we were in the sack w/in 30 minutes of meeting. She called me over to her place every other day or so and only for sex. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] After a couple weeks of this, I asked her if maybe we shouldn\'t go out on a date sometime and her response was \" no need, I have a boyfriend for that.\" And she would always send me away w/ a little gift each time we hooked up. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img] A gigalo at such a tender young age...what\'s this world cumming to....LOL [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

[Elana]

You will notice that guys that don\'t get a lot, don\'t believe that these women really exist. Guys with experience know that there are women that just want them for their tools. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]