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    Anyway, on the social proof thang, you can\'t say it\'s bullshit. What I mean is that social proof itself is obviously a correct theory. If you see someone successfully interacting with others, value is added to your opinion of them. (yes there can be nuances based on the type of interaction, but for the most part this is true).
    Now the question is whether couplins great an illusion of social proof, i.e. make it seem like you\'ve been with other women. I dunno :P It could be part of it.
    I think another part is that you smell like sex. -none, couplins, sweet and any other bodily fluids, smells on you, mix up into bubble burst of sex scent.

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    Seeing someone successfully interact with others is not the same thing as the idea that a guy is wearing copulins so that means he just got laid, so that means someone must have liked him, so that means I will like him.

    Bullsh!t. Women don\'t think like that. Some guy made that up. It makes sense and looks good on paper, it\'s just not true. In my opinion.

    If copulins work for you, it\'s not because of that. It\'s because they trigger an emotional opening up.

    They work especially well for actually having sex.

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    Seeing someone successfully interact with others is not the same thing as the idea that a guy is wearing copulins so that means he just got laid, so that means someone must have liked him, so that means I will like him.

    Bullsh!t. Women don\'t think like that. Some guy made that up. It makes sense and looks good on paper, it\'s just not true. In my opinion.

    If copulins work for you, it\'s not because of that. It\'s because they trigger an emotional opening up.

    They work especially well for actually having sex.

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    I hear ya, but women also \"don\'t like\" jerks, players, control freaks, abusive partners, neaderthals, uncommunicative machos, and chauvinist pricks. Yet they\'re with all the time [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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    How is that relevant to the Social Acceptance Theory of Copulins?

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    How is that relevant to the Social Acceptance Theory of Copulins?

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    It\'s not. But it is relevant to what women \"say\" they want and how they act later [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
    Note that I\'m a little wound up on the matter right now, cus I\'ve seen more weird female juju in the last 3 days than I ever thought possible. Can\'t we just establish that you\'re all loonies, and move on from there. Not saying you\'re better or worst, just cuckoo.

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    Sure. If we can agree that men are ...

    Y\'know what. Nevermind. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

    Actually - if one woman says another guy is a jerk, a$$hole, whatever else negative, her women friends will take that into STRONG account. But as far as \"I like him, I think he\'s great,\" the other women will say \"Good for you\" but that doesn\'t mean they start taking interest in him. At all. If anything, they stay away from him because he\'s taken.

    IMO, the Social Validation theory is guy think, not girl think.

    Anyway. Sorry you got jerked around. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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    Yes, \"social proof\" may be a \'guy idea\'.

    But it\'s because of the nearly 100% universal experience that men get significantly more attention from new honeys when they are already in the company of one---when there\'s an \"ambiguous\" relation between guy and umfriend.



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    <input type=\"radio\" name=\"option\" value=\"1\" />I get more attention from other women
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    Sure. If we can agree that men are ...

    Y\'know what. Nevermind. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

    Actually - if one woman says another guy is a jerk, a$$hole, whatever else negative, her women friends will take that into STRONG account. But as far as \"I like him, I think he\'s great,\" the other women will say \"Good for you\" but that doesn\'t mean they start taking interest in him. At all. If anything, they stay away from him because he\'s taken.

    IMO, the Social Validation theory is guy think, not girl think.

    Anyway. Sorry you got jerked around. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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    I agree FTR. I would think that if cops make a woman think a man has been having sex with another woman, that would be more of a turn off than a turn on. I may be wrong, but thats MHO. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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    i think it just gives them a feeling, and they do not know what to assoiate that feeling with or whatever. I don\'t think they can discern that a mna has been witht another woman recent, therefore he is a good man.

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    I agree FTR. I would think that if cops make a woman think a man has been having sex with another woman, that would be more of a turn off than a turn on. I may be wrong, but thats MHO.

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    I agree too. I don\'t ever compete for a man. Either he is all mine, or I am not interested. Maybe it\'s just me, but if I even sensed a man was with another woman, I would be moving on. There are too many available guys out there to waste time on the players.

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    I totally agree with also.

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    Default Proper Acknowledgement, Please!

    Say what you will, ladies, but it sure is obvious to men that having a woman or women clinging to you in public is the best way to get attention and respect from other women. A lone wolf has a more difficult task in arousing women\'s attention because the man lacks that social validation. Likewise the guy who is acting wussy and submissive to the woman he\'s with. Women are especially prone to social validation - who of you wants to wear unfashionable shoes?

    Now, whether or not the mere scent of a woman hanging on a man can arouse those competitive urges is subject to test. I will note that in personal experience, coming from a hot sex session to a public space does indeed seem to stimulate interest from new women. Whether that is pheromone-based or just my look of post-coital beatitude is a reasonable question.

    I\'d say the jury is still out on PCC/EW as an attractant.

    Note that the ability of copulins to stimulate a woman\'s libido and passion is properly called \"Whitehall\'s Orgy Theory of Copulins.\" I was the first to assert the theoritical basis for this phemonenon. I think there is less controversy over my namesake theory.

    I would appreciate proper acknowledgement in the future.

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    Well, then maybe its just that I am rather arrogant. I don\'t even notice guys that are with women. I notice the lone wolf. I notice the lone wolf that approches me and gives ME his attention. If he feels the need to split it with some other females, I am gone, gone, gone

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    Well, then maybe its just that I am rather arrogant. I don\'t even notice guys that have are with women. I notice the lone wolf. I notice the lone wolf that approches me and gives ME his attention. If he feels the need to split it with some other females, I am gone, gone, gone
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    Well you like 100% attention right, so I can see why you won\'t find a ladies man attractive.

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    This same mentality even rings a little true on this forum. Some of the women (myself included) talk with each other and tell each other what guys we are talking with. If I know that \"Jane\" is talking to \"Jim\" on a regular basis, I have no interest in talking with him through PM\'s. As silly as it sounds, we just don\'t like to step on each others toes. What\'s the point? There are too many of you to have to worry about overlap. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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    Well you like 100% attention right, so I can see why you won\'t find a ladies man attractive.


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    I like 100% attention from the guy(s) that are trying to get my attention. I could care less about the rest. I am not Watcher\'s favorite phrase. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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    There is a bit of fun talking to another girls \"internet boyfriend\", the same \"rings\" true in real life, girls love to f$ck a guy who is on top female wise, and in a relationship.


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    I like 100% attention from the guy(s) that are trying to get my attention. I could care less about the rest. I am not Watcher\'s favorite phrase.


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    What is that Elana, a double negative. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] If a guy is trying to get your attention then isn\'t that 100% attention?

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    Default Re: Proper Acknowledgement, Please!

    What I am saying is....if a guy is talking to me, and some bimbos keep popping around to talk with him, that is not 100% of his attention

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    What I am saying is....if a guy is talking to me, and some bimbos keep popping around to talk with him, that is not 100% of his attention

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    100% attention is given when 100% attention is received, what if this guy needs to be open because relying on one person is dangerous, I doubt many guys care about relying on that one girl, it\'s not a bad thing. The more attention you give a girl, the more you suck and kiss ass, the less she will find this guy worthwhile.

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    Elana,

    Perhaps you don\'t notice guys who are with other women but a lot of women do. Perhaps you\'re more polite but I think that women have a competitive streak.

    Imagine Bill Gates-lookalike walking into a bar alone. Now imagine Bill Gates lookalike walking into the same bar with the Swedish Bikini Team fawning over him. This an extreme event, I realize, but it is a scalable phenomenon.

    Happened to me Friday night. Walked into a bar with a bright-haired blonde clinging to me and every woman in the place wanted to make eye contact. Happened walking out too.

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    I have to agree with Elana. I don\'t pay any attention to guys who are with a girl already--I pretty much \'scan\' over them.
    And NO, TM, not all women want that guy who\'s on top and already in a relationship. Some of us think he\'s a pr!ck for cheating, and some of us, although we may find him hot, respect that he\'s in a relationship and look elsewhere.
    And I don\'t like a guy trying to pick me up stopping every two minutes to talk to whats-her-name who just walked up to say hi. That just tells me he\'s not that interested.

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    and some of us, although we may find him hot

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    Come on how about a roll in the sack?

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    Your realistic view of women astounds me, TM. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

    (Bruce, that eye-rolling face is really needed here.)

    Nope, not even a roll in the sack. Strangely enough, I don\'t cheat, and I have very little respect for a guy who\'ll run around on a perfectly good relationship.

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    I always find it amusing when the guys tell us what we want. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

    Yes, we love men that have [bad word] 3 women that same day. What a turn on. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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    Default It\'s the QUALITY of the relationship...

    Most ladies will respect an obvious relationship and not interfer. It is when the couple is NOT sending out \"togetherness\" signals - when the man is being supplicated - that the other women home in. Kind of like sharks smelling blood in the water.

    If the woman is trying hard and the guy is not biting then other women start to wonder what is so great about this guy and see him as especially desirable. After all, the supplicating woman is showing that he\'s got something going.

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    Oh cummon ... I don\'t think you have to worry about guys you\'ve been with wanting (or better, beein\' able) to have another women that same day.

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    I don\'t run around, by that line I was saying that women do find these guys hot and some girls don\'t find anything wrong with a quick mutually pounding. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] I would never cheat and I don\'t see the allure of it all. I don\'t think I would get married until I am in my late 40\'s though.

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    Elana, what are ya talking about, I should have put a disclaimer under my post(s). I wonder what you girls say about the guys around here. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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    I somewhat agree with this social validation theory, in that it\'s very much like what the media presses on us every chance it gets- through commercials. Oh, look how hot hipster jeans are... wouldn\'t you be sexier in them? Those women in the commercials sure are getting the guys. It\'s the same with shoes, hair products, etc. So, in that respect, a man who\'s the center of attention of a group of women is going to pique a girl\'s interest. Why is that guy so popular? What does he have that these other guys don\'t?

    Now, that does *not* mean that we are automatically sexually interested in that man. For some of us, it\'s quite the opposite. See, that\'s a turn off for me, b/c if he\'s entertaining a crowd of women, then I get the impression that he\'s a player, and that is NOT the kind of man I want to be in a relationship with. I suppose it might be different if I was just looking for a quick f*ck, but honestly, women don\'t want that as much as some of you would like to think (over-active imaginiations, boys- stop watching so much porn!)- we\'re more interested in the guy who\'s going to make us feel special, loved. Anyway, the women of this forum seem to be more mature than the stereotypical woman that is being used to prove this social validation theory, so what *we* have to say about this might be slightly different than what some or even most women might feel.

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    It\'s absolutely effing useless to try to tell them anything once they\'ve got a theory they like in their heads.

    I know it\'s hard to resist when they\'re SO DEAD WRONG.

    But save your energy because they know everything about women. More than women know, even. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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