TE is it just me?

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Knock yourself out. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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FTR....reread some of the responses. In fact, you just said she is being treated like a whore? Who is treating her like a whore. The guy was being demonized and it was being made out like she was a victim. Just re-read people\'s posts.

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HE is treating HER like a whore. In interaction between a whore and a client, there is no kissing. Whores do not kiss.

It\'s a fact, it\'s not demonization.

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[monesrule]

The Johns are the one who want the sex. The johns are the ones who pursue the sex. The prostitutes go along because they are getting something out of that sex that is not-sexual.

In this case, she is pursuing the sex, not him, he just goes for the ride. And she is getting something out of those acts -- she is single and horny, you know a woman has needs.

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I think you just want the last word.

You\'re smarter than the stuff you\'re talking right now.

Why do guys come on the women\'s forum and start arguments just to argue?

[monesrule]

i\'m sure you honestly believe that

[Bernard]

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I got pissed off at the person I hope to get closer to. I\'ll give some back story on the guy. He and I are attracted to eachother, and we have ben close before. But, we live far appart, and are just friends. He is wary about kissing me, and full on having sex with me. But,he has no problem doing, and letting me do other things with him. When asked, he says werd things like, I\'m attracted to you, but not overly so???? Yet, every time we visit with eachother,he has no trouble getting turned on by my advances. I\'m hoping the mones get him to that \"overly attracted\" place he seems to need to be. My friends say,when the mood feals right, just kiss him. I think thats all it will take. But, I hope he striks first this time. I wonder if this stinky stuff will do the trick. I worry, because he likes to where femal perfume..and has a realy strong sence of smell for a guy. If I reek, he will let me know. The mood will never come allong if he can\'t get close to me. Maby it wasnt the mones at all that pissed me off after all. Im turning 31 very soon, and have knowone in my life right now. He\'s what I realy want for my birthday. Just to make love the to the most sexy man I\'v ever had the plesure of knowing. I just want to be friends with him. I know dating would not work between us. He and I are on the same page in that respect. So,it\'s no stings attached sex,between two people who are attracted to eachother. Could the addition of the mones be the key??? <font color=\"red\"> </font> [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] <font color=\"red\"> </font>

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hi , i thought women needed to feel love before they can have sex with that person .then why crstalabell is still able to ahve sex with him when there is no love between them. pls enlighten me. i think that guy must be very handsome .

[DaVinciKittie]

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hi , i thought women needed to feel love before they can have sex with that person .then why crstalabell is still able to ahve sex with him when there is no love between them. pls enlighten me. i think that guy must be very handsome .


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Didn\'t you know? We\'re all wired differently. It\'s a cruel joke of fate that forces you men to have to put in some effort before you can score (or at least makes you *think* you do, cuz you never know...). [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

[Crystabell]

To me, he is beautifull and sweet. And he realy is a good friend. I did what I did because I wanted to. Giving him plesure pleases me. I knew what I would get, or what I would not get the first time. He layed it out for me like a map. It was my choice. And there is love. We are good friends. We do mean alot to eachother. I\'m no victume, trust me. He is a lucky guy, with some odd ishues.
By the way, the stinky stuff works. At the club tonight, I got stared at alot by guys. And one kept following me around the club. He\'s kinda cute, so I enjoyed the attention. Many guys spoke to me. And even a few ladys were far more chatty thain noraml.It also made me more relaxed,yet more outgoing. This may do the trick with my friend. I just want to get this urge to be with him out of the way. And after we do, I\'m very sure he will be glad we did. It may just save the friendship in the long run. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[Crystabell]

All I have to do is touch him, at a time when he\'s kinda relaxed. He lets go at that point, and I can tell he is very turned on by me. I only touch a hand, or his leg, and he\'s open for more. I just have to go about it the right way..and I\'m in. I only wish for him to be open for more thain just what weve done allready. I just want him to open up, and have fun with me. See, I have this talking to much problem. He too is a talker. But, not when it comes to sex. He just feals it, and does it. If I go about it the way he does(with the added push of the pheromones to get him in an even more fun mood) I think I\'m golden. Oh, I\'m also a gemini...I think alot of us are kinda agressive when it comes to things like this. I\'m no slut, or whore. I know what I want, and I know what I\'m doing with him. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

[EXIT63]

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Monesrule, what post are you reading?

He told her to her face he is not attracted to her. She is trying to get him to show her some attention. They are not on equal footing at all. She thinks he\'s the sexiest man she\'s ever known. He is not attracted to her.

This is not having sex like a man.

This is being treated like a whore and hoping for better.

Don\'t ever ever f*ck a guy who won\'t kiss you, period.

Why does he wear women\'s perfume?

Don\'t you suspect anything, Cristal?

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Red, it\'s not like you to beat around the Bush. Come out and say it. The guy\'s a HOMO! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Maybe he just doesn\'t know it. Or is in denial. After all. All men are Bi. Aren\'t they? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img] Send her some D&amp;B!

I\'m perplexed...how can a guy not want sex?

[Elana]

My guess is this guy would want to shower in the D&amp;B perfume.

[EXIT63]

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[Skyy]

I have my own D &amp; B Perfume for sale at my very special price!!

[Elana]

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I have my own D &amp; B Perfume for sale at my very special price!!

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I\'ll try a couple squirts of that.

[xxxPantero]

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hi , i thought women needed to feel love before they can have sex with that person .then why crstalabell is still able to ahve sex with him when there is no love between them. pls enlighten me. i think that guy must be very handsome .

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actually, i think that women don\'t need love, they just need trust in order to have sex. love is a way of trusting. but, she won\'t do u if she can\'t trust you, regardless of looks.

of course, that\'s just my opinion, someone feel free to correct me. and then laugh at my jokes.

[Skyy]

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I have my own D &amp; B Perfume for sale at my very special price!!

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I\'ll try a couple squirts of that.

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$160.00 (this includes a round trip ticket to florida)

I also need to be fed and taken care of.

[DaVinciKittie]

No, you\'re right Pantero- trust is big.

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hi , i thought women needed to feel love before they can have sex with that person .then why crstalabell is still able to ahve sex with him when there is no love between them. pls enlighten me. i think that guy must be very handsome .

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actually, i think that women don\'t need love, they just need trust in order to have sex. love is a way of trusting. but, she won\'t do u if she can\'t trust you, regardless of looks.

of course, that\'s just my opinion, someone feel free to correct me. and then laugh at my jokes.

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I agree.

All women don\'t need to feel love in order to have sex.

Young girls would usually prefer to think they are in love or the guy loves them, because then they feel less slutty.

Also. How guys get turned on by porn, physicality, etc. - that\'s how many women get turned on by the romantic stuff or the touchy/feely stuff.

[DaVinciKittie]

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Also. How guys get turned on by porn, physicality, etc. - that\'s how many women get turned on by the romantic stuff or the touchy/feely stuff.

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Oh, nice way to sum it up, FTR. I\'ll have to remember that.

[MOBLEYC57]

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Also. How guys get turned on by porn, physicality, etc. - that\'s how many women get turned on by the romantic stuff or the touchy/feely stuff.

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Oh, nice way to sum it up, FTR. I\'ll have to remember that.

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Always remember...there are exceptions to most sayings. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img] There are actually women that love the porn stuff, and get so turned on by watching it. I, not bi, love the romantic stuff TOO! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

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I like them both, together. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] (Of course, right - I want everything...)

[MOBLEYC57]

Whatever blows your hair back! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img] Mebee toobee!! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img][img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img][img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

[DaVinciKittie]

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There are actually women that love the porn stuff, and get so turned on by watching it.

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You know, I wonder how many women actually *DO* get turned on by porn but won\'t admit it. Works pretty well for me, but, of course, I *prefer* the romantic stuff... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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I know a lot of women in their late thirties through forties have their own porn collections. It used to turn me off and gross me out until I had a lover who would leave me a tape telling me that it showed things he would like to do to/with me. I used to call those tapes my training films [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Then I\'d see him and we\'d do some of those things from the film. Now when I look at the films, I have all those personal references to attach to them, and they get me off pretty well.

There\'s porn and there\'s porn - you have to find the type you like - I bet most women could find something they\'d like if they were openminded enough to look. What do you think?

[MOBLEYC57]

Yep...They would! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Speaking of turn ons...I watched Spider Man...yes, Spider Man! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img] If anyone saw it...that kiss he put on girly while he was upside down, gave me a ferocious boner!! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] Damn! That kiss was marinated in visual Viagra!!! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img] Never in my life! has someone kissing on film done so! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] Must be me old age kicking in! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

[Crystabell]

I\'ll admit, I never realy had any problem with porn. I love the stuff. But if thay take out the lovly mones and grones, its not as good. Maby thats why I like to \"play\" with my friend. He makes such lovly sexy sounds that I just love to make him happy. Note to men, don\'t be afraid of making noise. We love to hear that what were doing to you brings you plesure. Don\'t fake the noises,but, if your realy fealing good,just let it out. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[MOBLEYC57]

Oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooh!Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww wwwwwwwwwwh!
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmm!
Wheeew! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

[Bernard]

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To me, he is beautifull and sweet. And he realy is a good friend. I did what I did because I wanted to. Giving him plesure pleases me. I knew what I would get, or what I would not get the first time. He layed it out for me like a map. It was my choice. And there is love. We are good friends. We do mean alot to eachother. I\'m no victume, trust me. He is a lucky guy, with some odd ishues.
By the way, the stinky stuff works. At the club tonight, I got stared at alot by guys. And one kept following me around the club. He\'s kinda cute, so I enjoyed the attention. Many guys spoke to me. And even a few ladys were far more chatty thain noraml.It also made me more relaxed,yet more outgoing. This may do the trick with my friend. I just want to get this urge to be with him out of the way. And after we do, I\'m very sure he will be glad we did. It may just save the friendship in the long run. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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u want to maintain a friendship through sex .it may be common but then i mean what if a true love comes along . how are u going to balance the relationship between three of u. what if u and ur true love(whether u are married or not married) had some problem and u go back to this friend to have sex. what i mean is u dont do it purposely but at that time u need some emotional comfort . it is possible that u would have sex with him again in order to ease ur fustration and sadness.ur true love may not find out but u never know. maybe u have not think of this far but i have seen it on the news .

[Crystabell]

As soon as a real boyfriend came along, I\'d end it. If he got a girlfriend, he\'d do the same. We are friends, sex exchages or not. We will allways be friends. We may only sleep together once. Call it an itch. He\'s a wonderfull giving and caring lover. I just want to know what it\'s like to be with him, if only just one time. I realy think this TE/w will work. Along with some others mixed in. And, if I approch him in a calm sexy, not to pushy way,I may just get what I wish for. I hope. The sex is not forever,the friendship will be around for a very long time.

[BassMan]

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I agree.

All women don\'t need to feel love in order to have sex.

Young girls would usually prefer to think they are in love or the guy loves them, because then they feel less slutty.

Also. How guys get turned on by porn, physicality, etc. - that\'s how many women get turned on by the romantic stuff or the touchy/feely stuff.

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The safety issues can be huge, especially with a new lover.

Tori Amos says it well,

I could just pretend that you love me
The night would lose all sense of fear.

- from Leather