L-arginine

[Whitehall]

It happened to a friend of mine so I have one data point (she took it at my recommendation!) plus its reputation.

If it happens to you, you\'ll know soon enough.

[phersurf]

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Do you l-arginine users find it\'s best on an empty stomach or doesn\'t it make a difference?

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Every brand I\'ve looked at says to take it at least 1/2 hour before a meal.

[Cloud9]

what were the noticed effects from the users on here from taking L-Arginine?

[**DONOTDELETE**]

Longer, harder orgasms.

I\'ve never had herpes. My sort of vague understanding is that everybody has the herpes virus but not everyone manifests it ... if L-arginine encourages it, it hasn\'t done it to me. I\'ve been taking it for well over a month.

[phersurf]

After about 11-12 days, I noticed stronger, harder erections, more spontanious erections, better orgasms and better sexual stamina (not that I had any problems with any of these things[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img], they just all seemed to improve).

[Whitehall]

For some amino acids, taking them on an empty stomach is important. That\'s because you want those aminos to cross the blood/brain barrier but since there is only a limited permability you wouldn\'t want other aminos to compete for the limited pathways. That\'s why 5-HTP and l-phenylanaline need to be taken on an empty stomach or at least not concurrent with consumption of proteins.

L-arginine is somewhat different as the target is not the brain but the penis where the competitive pathways issue is irrelevant.

There is a use for l-arginine where taking it at bedtime is important and that\'s to stimulate human growth hormone production. The target there is the brain so an empty stomach or at least no other amino acids might be significant.

Taking a big dose of l-arginine on an empty stomach can sometimes be challenging.

[Cloud9]

I take L-Carnosine at bedtime, so I wouldn\'t want to take L-Arginine then. I value the effects of L-Carnosine much more than L-Arginine. I\'ll take it 45min-1hr before activities.

[phersurf]

Just remember, this is not something you can take just when you want to feel the effects, like Viagra. It takes a while for your body to utilize it to produce Nitric oxide. If you stop taking it for a week or 2, you will have to start the 2-4 week \"loading\" period all over again.

[Cloud9]

do other amino acids compete together only in digestion, or do they compete in the blood stream also. say I take one amino acid hours prior to another amino acid and they are both in the blood stream at the same time, but not in digestion together?

[Whitehall]

Pure amino acids are not exactly \"digested\" - proteins are digested (broken down) to make amino acids. Taking straight aminos do have to be assimilated.

First, they enter the bloodstream through the small intestine and are then routed through the liver. The liver doesn\'t do much to pure aminos so they then enter general circulation. For some, the blood/brain barrier limits admission to the neurons of the brain.

If you want a specific amino to get into the brain than you have to avoid competition. There is a list of, I think, 9 aminos that compete for limited flow path into the neurons. L-arginine is not one of them I believe

Hence, you can take l-arginine and l-phenylanaline or you could take l-arginine and tryptomine (serotoin precursor) but not tryptomine and l-phenylanaline together if you want them to enter your brain.

[Cloud9]

L-carnosine deposites into Brain and muscle tissue. So how far apart would I have to use L-arginine and L-carnosine.

[Whitehall]

I don\'t think it matters since l-arginine is not targeted to the brain.

[Cloud9]

Thanks, I\'ll just take it daily I suppose in the early afternoon since I take L-carnosine on an empty stomach at night and in the morning.

[phersurf]

I found these products that seem promising. They are called Natural Arousal for men and Natural Sensation for women. They are topical L-Arginine applications that are supposed to have instant results instead of the several weeks it takes oral ingestion. Here is the website for all those interested,
http://www.naturalpleasure.com/.

I\'m always skeptical of topical applications because of the logistic problem of absorption through the skin. But I ordered some and will report back my findings.

[Whitehall]

I\'ve been through a few bottles of both of these products and can say that they really work for both men and women. They heat the genitals as advertised and cause mutually pleasurable engorgement.

There are two downsides, both involving the penetration enhancer used - sodium chloride (plain salt). Sometimes the salt will slowly crystalize out of the lotion and become gritty. The second issue is that the stuff is salty so if oral sex is part of the menu then expect a salty snack.

[nonscents]

I took 1/2 tablespoon of l-arginine poweder in water this morning. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img] Nasty tasting stuff. Well, I\'ll be a long-term hedonist on this one--seconds of disgust are worth hours of ecstasy. Would someone please let me know when I start engaging in long bursts of ecstatic behavior?

[phersurf]

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I took 1/2 tablespoon of l-arginine poweder in water this morning. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img] Nasty tasting stuff. Well, I\'ll be a long-term hedonist on this one--seconds of disgust are worth hours of ecstasy. Would someone please let me know when I start engaging in long bursts of ecstatic behavior?

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As I posted earlier, every thing I read states that the effects are not noticable for 2-4 weeks, one site even says 6 weeks. And if you discontinue use for a week or so, you will have to start the whole 2-4 week period over. It is also recommended that the 3 grams per day are split into 3 doses taken on an empty stomach with a high carbo drink for better absorption.

I noticed an improvement in about 12 days.

[Whitehall]

At half a tablespoon once a day, you\'ll see no difference unless you suffer from a dietary protein deficiency.

Put a couple of TABLESPOONS in a smoothie or eat 9+ half gram capsules.

The effects of l-arginine are subtle for most people.

[nonscents]

Whitehall, thanks for all your input on this, but:
9 half-gram capsules is 4.5 gms. My bottle says one heaping teaspoon was 4 grams. I took 1/2 tablespoon, or 1.5 teaspoons. So I exceeded your dose. But I will try mixing the powder with some more palatable tasting stuff.

[HornyMan]

I find now at 33 that my balls simply don\'t produce the amount of semen they did at 18 -- this is just the process of aging. Now I know that ejaculating 3 times a day was quite normal for me at 18 (though I\'d feel ill the next day), I would be thrilled if my balls produced enough semen to ejaculate once a day now at 33. Sure I could pull of 2 ejaculations a day now but I\'d feel the ill effects of it the next day and probably not be able to cum and produce strong erections for the next several days.

Aside from Arginine, is there any other herbs, vitamins, or proteins that help build up your load? I suffer from fairly low libido, low semen production (not sperm count but cum), and difficultly maintaining hard erections.

[Whitehall]

I stand corrected!

I\'ll be more careful next time. If you\'re eating an extra 6 (?) grams per day then you might see some effects.

[EXIT63]

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I find now at 33 that my balls simply don\'t produce the amount of semen they did at 18

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Well....that\'s more than I needed to know! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[**DONOTDELETE**]

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I find now at 33 that my balls simply don\'t produce the amount of semen they did at 18 -- this is just the process of aging. Now I know that ejaculating 3 times a day was quite normal for me at 18 (though I\'d feel ill the next day), I would be thrilled if my balls produced enough semen to ejaculate once a day now at 33. Sure I could pull of 2 ejaculations a day now but I\'d feel the ill effects of it the next day and probably not be able to cum and produce strong erections for the next several days.

Aside from Arginine, is there any other herbs, vitamins, or proteins that help build up your load? I suffer from fairly low libido, low semen production (not sperm count but cum), and difficultly maintaining hard erections.



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You don\'t need herbs and vitamins -- you need a new lover!

[Elana]

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You don\'t need herbs and vitamins -- you need a new lover!

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Why? He get\'s along just fine with his right hand. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[**DONOTDELETE**]

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[Andy]

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I find now at 33 that my balls simply don\'t produce the amount of semen they did at 18 -- this is just the process of aging. Now I know that ejaculating 3 times a day was quite normal for me at 18 (though I\'d feel ill the next day), I would be thrilled if my balls produced enough semen to ejaculate once a day now at 33. Sure I could pull of 2 ejaculations a day now but I\'d feel the ill effects of it the next day and probably not be able to cum and produce strong erections for the next several days.

Aside from Arginine, is there any other herbs, vitamins, or proteins that help build up your load? I suffer from fairly low libido, low semen production (not sperm count but cum), and difficultly maintaining hard erections.

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I\'d visit a med., because I don\'t think it\'s normal to experience ill effects. I never had any in the past and coming multiple times should be no problem, at least not at the age of 33. Your semen load might be going down after many ejaculations, but the carrier should be at nominal level after 24h.

[Whitehall]

The male body releases different amounts of seminal fluid containing different amounts and types of sperm, depending on the circumstances.

Note that the seminal fluid is produced by the prostate while the sperm that swim inside it are produced by the testes - two different things.

When a guy masturbates, he releases a smaller amount of fluid. When he\'s in sperm competition, he\'ll give his best load - more fluid and more sperm. The opacity of the ejaculate may vary noticably too - thick and creamy means lots of sperm; a clearer fluid means less sperm.

What I\'ve noticed is that by using a touch of PCC or EW to the upper lip during masturbation, I fool my body into \"thinking\" I\'m with a woman and I release a larger load then when I don\'t sense copulins.

One great application for l-arginine is to increase seminal fluid production - l-arginine is a vital constituent of the fluid and repeated ejaculations can exhaust the body\'s ready supply of fluid. Taking lots of supplemental l-arginine helps the body replenish its supply. If I know I\'m going to have a hot weekend with lots of sex, I\'ll load up on l-arginine a few days before hand and continue to take it throughout the weekend. My lovers are usually amazed.

If you\'re losing production as you say, then you should see a doctor. A vascetomy can signal you body to reduce production but it could be a prostate problem, potentially very serious. At the age of 33, you had better keep on top of this issue.

[Gerund]

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The opacity of the ejaculate may vary noticably too -

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Only Whitehall could use 3 four-syllable words in one sentence when talking about cum~ [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

(Sorry Whitehall, I couldn\'t resist)

[Whitehall]

Just attempting to delicately expound upon culturally sensitive biological topics.

You have no idea how having a big vocabulary can be such a burden! When there is the right word, albeit big, one has trouble compromising on a poor, more common substitute.

[DrSmellThis]

zinc, pumpkin seeds by the handfuls!