Mineral Oil as massage oil(mixed with pheros,SP) ?

[filterfactory]

Hi,

I have a bottle of mineral oil that I got for mixing and was wondering if I could use that for massage oil? It seems a bit thick and greasy but as I have it I may as well put it to good use. Also would the pheroes NPA, Chem set and A1 mix with the oil? And if none of this works what could I use as a massage oil that would mix with the above mentioned pheroes (unscented preferable)?

Thanx

[**DONOTDELETE**]

Professional body workers tend not to use mineral oil because it is so greasy -- it makes for too much \"slip\" on the skin, and it doesn\'t absorb all that easily into the skin, so your client has to shower before putting on clothing again.


You can make your own massage oil starting with grapeseed oil because it\'s so light, and adding richer, heavier oils such as apricot, or jojoba, depending on who you\'re mixing it for use on -- and there are excellent already mixed massage oils with little scent available for purchase in most whole food stores. I like Heritage products in particular (www.caycecures.com).


Having said all that -- if you like the feel of mineral oil, there\'s no reason not to use it.

[xvs]

I like food oils better for massage.

Sweet almond oil is used a lot. Some people even like olive oil!

[Andy]

I\'d use grapeseed too, mineral oils aren\'t good for the skin and food oils (sunflower, olive) are too smelly. Add some jojoba when working on a person with oily skin or max normal skin, don\'t use it on people with dry skin, because it will turn their skin into sandpaper.

[CJ01]

If you really want to use an oil for massage, I take it it´s meant to be more gentle, soft massage or erotic right [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]? why don´t you try the Calypsos´oil from skinbio.com, they´re really nice and they´re good for the skin too [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] If you get he unscented one you can still add your own fragrance.

[filterfactory]

Thanx all,
Just to clarify this, oil and ethanol will mix? so if I get Grapeseed oil and mix in NPA and the Chem set the pheromones won\'t be left sitting on top of the mixture?

[CJ01]

Ethanol is alcohol so yes, it mixes with oil. Colognes etc are mixed with alcohol ( ie perfume oil + alcohol)
YOu´ll be fine mixing the whole lot together. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[filterfactory]

Hey CJ thanx for the info. I tried mixing grapeseed oil and plain ethanol from the chem set together but the alchohal went straight to the BOTTOM and when i shook it up it mixed but made a whole lot of little bubbles. I let it sit for a while and it eventually seperated. And then I used another kind of alchohal that I got at the Pharmacy and that floated on TOP of the oil and did the same as the other stuff. So is this normal behavior between oil and ethanol? Do I just have to shake it up a lot more or maybe even heat it up... I know that AE is a mix of oil and alchohal but I don\'t remember seeing it seperate. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] otherwise maybe I just have to keep shaking it everytime I use it(but then how even is the distribution of the pheroes in the oil?).

[CJ01]

I suppose the ethanol you used was not 100%, could this be? Try getting hold of some at the pharmacy. I gotta admit I´ve not done this type of mixing lately AND I´ve never used grapeseed oil either. Often when mixing the way and order you mix is crucial. Think of the way a white sauce is made - butter, flour, then you add milk bit by bit and keep stirring it so it doesn´t go funny.
Perhaps mixing the oil in little by little into strong ethanol will work.

I dunno why you got all those bubbles, but my chemistry ain´t what it used to be [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Have you added just the pheros to the oil yet? Is is working?
I guess if it´s for massage though you wouldn´t want to get much, if any ethanol on the skin anyhow.
CJ

[InternationalPlayboy]

I\'ve got a friend who is a masseuse and she doesn\'t use oil as it can clog the

pores. She uses lotion, which is mixed with water in an applicator bottle to thin it out.

[bjf]

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and she doesn\'t use oil as it can clog the pores. She uses lotion, which is mixed with water in an applicator

bottle to thin it out.

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I\'ve been wondering if clogged pores

could be a good thing, for stronger pheromone applications as the pheromones may stay closer to surface level to be

broadcast into your environment. Also it may be better for future applications, as if it stays on higher levels of

skin, it is easier to wash off and control buildup in deeper levels of skin.

[DrSmellThis]

Palm oil stays on the surface of the skin. That is one reason why perfumers use it. (denatured

version)

[bjf]

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skin. That is one reason why perfumers use it. (denatured version)

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What does it smell like?

[DrSmellThis]

It\'s fairly scentless. I personally am annoyed by something harsh about the smell, but perfumers

still use it. You can\'t smell it when mixed with a scent.

[surfs_up]

Baby oil and mineral oil are just plain lousy and they cause condoms to fail. For flat out erotic

quality use a pure silicone intended for massage purposes. Wet Platinum and ID silicone lube are superb. Their feel

is silky satiny as opposed to greasy sticky. The copulin concentrate product, (not the \"scent of woman\") but the

one with the light watermelon aroma will blend perfectly with silicone. I pour a whole bottle of copulin concentrate

into one bottle of 16 ounce silicone. The copulins are normal components of human skin\'s acid mantle so this

actually makes the silicone good for skin health and consistent with vaginal acidity. Silicone will accept alcohol

and glycol based pheromones. Wonderful stuff, slithery sexy and pushes the hot vibes to a higher plane if you know

what you\'re doing by way of massage technique. By the way you aroused beings out there, do yourself a major favor

and learn real massage technique. Pick up two or three books from amazon or the bookstore on therapeutic and erotic

massage and practice. I\'m an old guy and I get responses from awesome young babes that makes some young fellas

wonder what I\'ve got up my sleeve. Well developed massage technique, my friends, will keep them coming back for

more. Give her a body sensation she can\'t get anywhere else and you are the go to guy. She\'ll tell her friends

too.

[Elana]

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Wet Platinum and ID silicone lube

are superb

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I hate them with a passion. They have dimenthicone

in them and are not safe for women. They feel slimy and not at all natural. Stick with the astroglide

[surfs_up]

the other one smells too strong and is much too acidic. Don\'t you dare pour a whole bottle of the

S.O.W. into your lube, it could be waaaay to sour. Use the Passion CC with the roller ball tip.

[surfs_up]

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I hate them with a passion. They have dimenthicone in them and are not safe for women. They

feel slimy and not at all natural. Stick with the astroglide

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Not

everybody would agree with that. All the women I\'ve been with love it.

[Elana]

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Wet

Platinum and ID silicone lube are superb

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I hate them with a

passion. They have dimenthicone in them and are not safe for women. They feel slimy and not at all natural. Stick

with the astroglide

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Not everybody would agree with that. All the

women I\'ve been with love it.

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I wonder if they still love it

when they get infections? It is not safe to use internally. That is why the bottle says \"for topical cosmetic use

only\"

[DrSmellThis]

I hate them too, although otherwise I like surf\'s advice. I don\'t like to mix lots of

nasty chemicals in with my sex. I have been working on a recipe for an all natural (herbal, etc)lubricant for some

time (which beats Astro \"hands down\" for overall sensation but is brown-colored rather than clear, so it is not

for those doing things \"half way\" or who are worried about their sheets)) Some day I might sell it, who knows.

Very kinky.

[Elana]

Not bashing his advice....just the products.

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Any lotions and potions that go inside a woman must be

water soluble. That stuff does not come off when rinsed in water.

[DrSmellThis]

That\'s right. I also found the silicon products to be gummy. Never understood the attraction.

They are very long lasting, granted.

[surfs_up]

This depends on the individual. Some women get infections with the slightest disturbance of

their internal environment, others are surprisingly tough and never get infections. One of my GFs was a working

escort who may have been with about a thousand men throughout her career and never, ever got an infection. She could

be with 4 or 5 men per day, sometimes more. Other women sneeze and they\'ve got something going. Maybe this is

related to the acid balance of the vagina, a health condition is about Ph 4.5 which is the same as a ripe organic

tomato. There is a vaginal Ph test product available that can be used as an early warning system for infection

proneness.
Ohter possibilities which are very good are macadamia nut oil that is a dense edible oil a little

heavier than olive oil, or jojoba oil, a lighter oil that has a high natural iodine content but I don\'t know in

what form. Jojoba is non-edible although it is very stable and has mild germicidal properties. The drawback to oils

and petroleum based greases is that they will bust condoms.
Another good choice is to have an external lube

handy, my preference being silicone, and a water based internal luibricant. Another basic point of sex thoughfulness

is to always keep a bottle of alcohol based sanitiser like Purell with your kit. Make sure you fingernails are

clipped close and filed. As you are getting intimate take a second and thoroughly clean your hands and nails with

the Purell so you don\'t give the lovely lass something transferred from your hands.
There are now water based

lubes that have an added amino acid, arginine, that acts somewhat like viagra directly on the clitoris and vulva. I

bought a large bottle of a water based product and opened up a couple of capsules of arginine from Twinlab, poured

them into the lube bottle on top of the gel and let them dissolve for three or four days.
After the oily part of

the massage we\'d grab the blue bottle of the water base plus arginine for a good pre-worout slather. Based on the

intensity of the sex it has every indication of working effectively.