Did you read up on SOE? If breaking the ice is your goal, then I think any product with Rone and/or Nol would be the best bet ... Heavy None is to be avoided .. at least for breaking the ice .. once it\'s broken, that\'s a different story ... Cuddles [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif[/img]
WAGG is a possibility too, but we don\'t really know all that much about it yet ...
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