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I\'m so glad you said that...same here....never a problem.
I was just a young kid in camp when I discovered the joys of a shower head. Never stopped for a moment...
Re: masturbation and health...
I am assuming that Ryan is not having sex with females on a regular basis...he didn\'t say.
Is it healthy for an 18 year old to be masturbating thrice daily, be depressed, and not be socializing / having sex with women??? My vote is: NO.
Ryan needs to tell us if he is having sex with anyone else.
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or a running faucet...
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need help??
\"Stick your head in the sand and someone will come along and shoot your ass off\"
[i] Wolfe
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yes, actually
but don\'t tease me
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Argghhh! How do you guys expect me to get my attention focused back on work?! [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif[/img]
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can honestly say i\'ve BEEN teased a few times in life(and left to pay the price) but never ever would i do the teasing w/o a follow up [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif[/img]
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See? Now there\'s nice manners.
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Women are different than men. In sex, they are superior, it\'s pretty much a fact. You can chose your own reasons to justify that, but here\'s the most obvious thing to me: a woman can practically come as much as she wants. A man can come a couple of times, but he will ultimately be extrememy exhausted. If you want love to go on after ejaculation, it\'s best not to let him come TOO often.
An orgasm in men causes ejaculation (at least most of the times). Women\'s orgasms do not have results as \"meaningful\" as that. Don\'t get me wrong here. It\'s basically like this: Sex was originally intended for reproduction. In order to do so, then man has to ejaculate/have an orgasm. Women do not necessarily need to have a orgasm. Fertilisation will be easier if both come at the same time, but the woman\'s orgasm just is not a necessity for fertilisation. IMO male sex is more connected to what is was meant for than women sex (i.e. from a woman\'s point of view. I\'m not talking about lesbian sex here). Dunno what I\'m trying to prove here, but I just want to point out that excessive sex/masturbation is probably more harmful to men than it is to women due to the closer connection of male sex to the whole purpose of sex i.e. reproduction. Semen production takes a lot of energy after all so give your body a break. Fasting is good for the body and allows your organs to rest and break down toxic substances. I think it\'s healthy to let your dick have a rest from time to time too (i.e. don\'t masturbate/ejaculate x times a day. x being 2 or more).
What interested me a lot about this site is that influences of Eastern filosophy are pretty apparent. I have a certain book called \"the tao of loving\" and it\'s about regulating ejaculation so you can have sex for hours and hours completely satyisfying tour female partner. Even then, it\'s not necessary to come (due to the effects in males). Just admit it guys: is a woman still as attractive after you\'ve completely come to your senses after having ejaculated? No need for lies! That\'s why it\'s so great to regulate ejaculation: you\'ll be able to keep it up for hours! The point is to make the the whole experience memorable through having a lot of pleasure for a very long time, rather than working your way quickly to the moment where the tension is released like a burst of lighting followed by a big noise. You\'ll not have come, but you will not be troubled or trouble your partner. Ejaculation only happens every once in a while. They also take into account which season it is and other stuff like that...
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i have a question, ya know if a man gets turned on and left high and dry from it w/o relief it cause whats called \'blue balls\', does that happen to women too? *BLUSH*
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That\'s cool and all, keeping it up forever...but great sex is not always so much about the guy\'s erection.
And I wonder about all that tao stuff.
And when women come, their cervixes dip down and suck, repeatedly. Female orgasm facilitates pregnancy. It\'s better for pregnancy if the man comes just before she does, actually, so she\'ll have something in there for her to suck up. I have seen movies of this on the discovery channel, I\'m not making it up.
Sex for pregnancy is mostly not what we\'re talking about, anyway. Sex is mostly for fun. If you\'re doing it right.
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I just formulated it a bit different then, but I meant the same thing: if the woman has an orgasm she\'ll get pregant more easily because of the sperm getting sucked up.
You\'re taking it a bit to literally FTR. Keeping it up is not necessarily about a guy having a hard one all the time. I just mean being able to go on for hours without experiencing disadvantages of ejaculation i.e tiredness. I even think having a hard one all the time during a long love session is rather annoying.
Everyone does it the way he/she wants. I\'m just giving my story here, and think of it what you want. It\'s not my point to say other people how to do it.
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FTR\'s got it right; I saw the same program.
They actually had a tiny camera inside the woman showing the guy\'s orgasm and then the woman\'s. The orgasmic contractions pushed the cervix down into the pool of semen. Darndest thing I ever watched. (Now that was a couple of people who could perform under pressure!)
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ALL the women I\'ve been with get worn out after a couple of hours max - no brag, just fact. This stuff about going at it for eight hours uninterrupted just doesn\'t jive with the life experiences I\'ve had.
Frankly, after an hour of vigorous lovemaking, it starts to lose it\'s intensity. That\'s a good time to break for water, food, laughter, hugs. Then, once rested, do it again.
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Wolfe...I have had the female version of blue balls. It is when a woman\'s clit gets engorged, but the job is not completed. It\'s not comfortable.
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Hurts like a bitch, and the ache spreads into your low back and all through your lower pelvis. Talk about make you grouchy.
This business of \"women just need to cuddle\" -- if just that one bit of stupidity could be put to rest, I\'d be happy for awhile.
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<This business of \"women just need to cuddle\" -- if just that one bit of stupidity could be put to rest, I\'d be happy for awhile. >
AMEN!!!! I\'m so damn sick of that crap. [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/tongue.gif[/img]
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Wolfe, we\'re not fussing at you, mind you. It\'s a good question and I\'m really glad you asked it because there are still men out there who think women\'s orgasms 1. serve no biological function, and 2. are not necessary for their sexual satisfactin.
Both ideas are just wrong.
FYI
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damn, makes me damn glad i never left a job undone then cause i sure know what it\'s like to suffer a let down. and trust me, now i know women suffer the same way i\'ll always make sure i keep doing just that..finishing the job. One way or another.
theres no job that can\'t be licked
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<theres no job that can\'t be licked>
EXACTLY [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/laugh.gif[/img]
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Or fingered out, one way or another.
Oh, I meant figured out.
or something.
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Yes! A man after my own heart! It\'s always easy to know when the man has an orgasm, but don\'t leave us women high and dry. Er, I mean hot and deprived. Finish the job and you\'ll have our undying love. Or at least we\'ll have fond memories of you as a great lover, no strings attached. \"No pain, no gain\" does not apply here.
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It\'s the truth. Make sure she comes every time, whatever it takes. That\'s the secret of making a love slave. No lie.
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number 1 rule in love making for a man (and hardest thing he has to learn) forget about his own pleasure, and pleasure his woman. If he does that first and foremost his life will be heaven.
\"Bury your head in the sand, somebody will come along and shoot your ass off\"
[i] Wolfe
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So true send her to heaven for her to make his life heaven.
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Maximog:
I don\'t mean to be rude, but where do you get this stuff? There\'s no \"bio energy\" that I know about.
Let\'s take Viagra and blue vision for an example. Here\'s what actually is going on:
Penile erection works through a mechanism mediated by nitric oxide, which is released by neve endings in the penis. This causes a release of guanylate cyclase, which in turn causes a release of cyclic guanosine monophosphate (cGMP), which causes the tissue around the penile arteries to relax, increasing blood flow.
An enzyme called phosphodiesterase type 5 (PDE-5), mops up the cGMP so that erections don\'t last forever. Viagra is a PDE-5 inhibitor, so the muscles stay relaxed longer, more blood flows in for longer, hence a bigger, longer lasting erection (assuming that the other parts of the system are working, like the nitric oxide release, etc.)
The reason for the blue vision experienced by some people is that there is an enzyme in the eye called PDE-6, which is another phosphodiesterase that also works on cGMP, this time so that sodium channels in the eye can close, allowing light to be transduced by the optic nerve.
It appears that in some men have enough PDE-6 that they don\'t get any noticable visual effects from Viagra (or perhaps there\'s variablility in the PDE-6 enzyme which hasn\'t yet been documented).
That\'s what causes it... nothing to do with \"bio energy\" (which isn\'t actually a scientific concept I\'m familiar with).
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There\'s a little search engine called google right? Now if you want to know something about overmasturbation you can use your keyboard to type something like \"excessive masturbation\" and press enter. That will cause your browser to refresh and show pages according to their relevance to the subject you were looking for. If one of those pages contains stuff like what I pasted on the forum, then it\'s because it was relevant to the subject this topic was about. Think about the general idea of the text all you want. I merely prevented the need for others to go searching. If what I tell here is bollocks then it is merely that because someone else apparently felt the need for posting bollocks (which is not to my liking)
What I AM sure of (and which is ALSO the genral idea in all texts about overmasturbating I\'m familiar with:
There\'s nothing wrong with masturbating like three times a week. (even more is acceptable, DEPENDING on age, situation etc.) Hell it\'s even healthy. keeping your sexual organs active from time to time is like working out from time to time: keeps them healthy and makes them stronger! (being it muscles or your reproductive organs)
Masturbating like three to ten times a day is a bit worse for you and it\'s quite possible that you do not do so because you feel you need to. THis has been written on this forum already, but only a few days ago, i did read that excessive masturbating CAN make you shy.
Re: masturbation and health...
I usually go at least 2-3 times a day....But, I have stopped for like 3/4 weeks before...
Basically, I look at it as weightlifting, YES you DO GET TIRED! However, when you come back from it, you will be stronger than you were before.
Get it?
If I lift weights, I\'ll be tired afterward, worn out, but when I get rested back up, there\'s overcompensation.
The only PROBLEM is that at 3 times a day it may be a form of overtraining.
Yes, the body will come back stronger, however, you have to give it the chance to!
The reason I went like 3 or 4 weeks was just, to test it out.
Basically, at first, your test levels are higher, yeah, because you are rested, however, aftera about a day or 2 they drop back down. Masterbation would seem as something for your body to push against, keep it in the prime.
Not masterbating for EXTENDED periods of times, is like sleeping.
If you sleep TOO MUCh you will wake up groggy and tired. However, if you don\'t get enough, you will also wake up groggy and tired.
Anyway...
Basically, after the 3 or 4 weeks.
I got REALLY WEAK! I\'m talking...My strength levels DROPPED! I lost over 5# of muscle, and was more sensitive to cold and hot, almost like women, which would explain it...Women get cold and hot easier.
Started back up...Bamm, gained back the strength, etc. Don\'t feel sick as much. And now, I can back again, go out in freezing cold whether and it doesn\'t phase me.
Basically, it\'s jut like weightlifting, it makes you tired, but you come back stronger. Too much is overtraining, too little is not enough.
I would suggest that he takes it down to 1-2 times, preferrebly one.
Another thing I noticed also, is that, after the layoff, coming back was INTENSE...But, after 2 and 3 times a day it\'s NOTHING....
I think a lot if it is, he basically has nothing better to do really.
Just do it once a day. When you\'re not, try working out or something, something as simple as pushups would help....Or, do something, ie, sports, school work. Or, do nothing. Meditation is always good.
Basically, I think it wasn\'t excatly the masterbation, but rather, the fact that he was just more focused on masterbation and less focused on everything else.
Oh, and about the sperm count.
When I stopped.... I guess, the body was used to producing the sperm. But, for the first 2 weeks or so, every time I\'d sh*t some would come out...No joke, I\'ve never had a wet dream in my life.
But, yeah, sperm production SLOWS DOWN!...
Basically, if you take it down to once a day, you\'ll have enough to keep the body pushing forward, keep you strong, etc, but not enough to produce EXCESSIVE tiredness.
Not just THAT, but, you\'ll ENJOY it more. The body seems to get desensitized.
Bart
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Yes, it will trick the body into getting lazy. However, too LITTLE and the body is tricked ALSO into thinking it does not need it.
Personally, what wha\'ts his name said, once every 2-3 days, I don\'t think that\'s enough. I think once a day is about right. 2-3 days? Perhaps for older people. However, for younger people like myself. I can regenerate the sperm back in usually 12 hours.
Oh, and working out, same deal, it usually only takes me 12-24 hours. I have an exceptional recovery rate. Mostly because I FORCE myself to. I lift every day. People say, oh, that\'s too much. Yeah, I can bench press you over my head!
lol
Bart
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I disagree. If you have frequent masterbation, you will get just like wokring out. Overcompenstaion. The body will be PREPARED next time for orgasm (I think orgrams is much stronger than the burning sensation for example when you get lifting) and so it will produce extra of the homrones, etc.
Basically, if you do it reguarly, but not too much, it will be as if nothing happened, however, you will still have the extra hormones the body produces.
Same as lifting basically.
I guess masterbation would be a WHOLE BODY thing though. But, I mean, hey, I\'d rather have an orgasm than that damned burning pain, and the weak feeling in the arms, etc from working out. lol
I think it just depends on 1. Your age. 2. Your body\'s ability on how fast you can regenerate.
However, just like lifting you get an overcompenstation.
But, yeah, I thikn the shyness would come from after doing it VERY OFTEN, it\'s not stimulating. you don\'t want it, and so, your not\' intrested in screwing girls. On the other hand though, if you don\'t ever do it, for example, you don\'t know what you\'re missing. The body thinks it doesn\'t NEED sex. I think just regular frequent is the best. Just so long as you don\'tj spend all your time on it.
That will make you bigger, most focused, etc.
Bart
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