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    Default Anyone tried a 5 phero mix. Results here.

    Ok the ultimate mix Arone Anol Anone a1 (androstadinenone) and couplins ie PCC or EW into a mix and what are the effects. Anyone with lots of money could try this it deserves its own thread. Now anyone tried this the chem sets from stone labs a1 from stone labs and of course either the PCC or EW.

    Im totally unsure of ratios of amounts but suggestions would be helpful as i may purchase everything at some point and try it out myself. Lets discuss everyone.

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    God I was immature back then!

    Those were the old days before etiquette was invented.
    DrSmellThis (creator of P H E R O S)

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrSmellThis
    Those were

    the old days before etiquette was invented.
    If a guy's a cocksucker in his life, when he dies, he don't become a saint. - Morris Levy, Hitmen

    Holmes' Theme Song

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    Default All we may know is how little we may know

    What can one say about all of this. When I studied NLP in its early day it was, then, in that time, a

    new, interesting thing. Slowly it mutated into a weird, constipated, dismal "three easy keys to success" cheezeball

    freakshow. There may be better than average teachers here and there but overall it's forgettable stuff. I studied

    with all the original figures, often in small seminar settings,Linden, Bandler, Grinder, Dilts, Andreas, Dobson,

    James, even the extraterrestrial Carmine Baffa. I promise you, if their system was anywhere close to being as

    effective as they promoted it as being, I'd have all the goodies life has to offer, and then some. That there is

    some value in it doesn't obviate the fact that it is a weak technology promoted by a bunch of

    mediocrities.

    Pheromones are more fun and work better. My preference is to roll my own according to the

    circumstance, and combine with a top quality fragrance when called for. The basic choice is will it be a high -NONE

    mix (strong reactions, faster, and more risky) or a high -NOL mix (moderated reactions, slower response time,

    varying degrees of sociability), or a high -RONE mix (not often seen here, much more laid back, contemplative)...

    let's see... there are 6 -mones that I regularly combine and there may be a seventh on the way...
    I'm curious

    about how much overlap there is with La Croy and the other mystery sauces...

    On the subject of non verbal

    cuing, I think the most central thing to learn is the concept of "congurity"... the only living teacher I know about

    who specifically teaches congruity skills is David Dobson in Friday Harbor, an island outside of Seattle, and he's

    ancient, still working though. The brain is hard wired to pick up on congruent and incongruent signals, it takes a

    real pro to sift through the fine incongruities, there's some guy, a professor I think, who is the world's leading

    authority on facial signals. Salesmen, politicans, and con men work hard at ironing out incongruities, often with

    masking behavious like excessive gesticualition or consciously overworking their facial muscles to obscure their

    fine motor "tells". Women seem to be more finely tuned to congruity and incongruity that men are as congrity has

    less to do with chucking a speak through a hyena than it does with mate selection. If you are moderately

    incongruent, women will ready you as "creepy" of "off putting" without exactly being able to say why, some bad asses

    succeed because they are congruent as bad asses, it's the undigested, poorly integrated parts of the psyche that

    generate confusion or discomfort in others, that translates into not getting laid.

    Having said all of that,

    NLP paid lip service to the congruity problem, with the lone exception of Dobson they didn't know what to do with

    it. It was one of those gassy generalizations that forever hung in the air and nobody could shape into procedure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by surfs_up
    What can one

    say about all of this. When I studied NLP in its early day it was, then, in that time, a new, interesting thing.

    Slowly it mutated into a weird, constipated, dismal "three easy keys to success" cheezeball freakshow. There may be

    better than average teachers here and there but overall it's forgettable stuff. I studied with all the original

    figures, often in small seminar settings,Linden, Bandler, Grinder, Dilts, Andreas, Dobson, James, even the

    extraterrestrial Carmine Baffa. I promise you, if their system was anywhere close to being as effective as they

    promoted it as being, I'd have all the goodies life has to offer, and then some. That there is some value in it

    doesn't obviate the fact that it is a weak technology promoted by a bunch of mediocrities.

    Pheromones are more

    fun and work better. My preference is to roll my own according to the circumstance, and combine with a top quality

    fragrance when called for. The basic choice is will it be a high -NONE mix (strong reactions, faster, and more

    risky) or a high -NOL mix (moderated reactions, slower response time, varying degrees of sociability), or a high

    -RONE mix (not often seen here, much more laid back, contemplative)... let's see... there are 6 -mones that I

    regularly combine and there may be a seventh on the way...
    I'm curious about how much overlap there is with La

    Croy and the other mystery sauces...

    On the subject of non verbal cuing, I think the most central thing to learn

    is the concept of "congurity"... the only living teacher I know about who specifically teaches congruity skills is

    David Dobson in Friday Harbor, an island outside of Seattle, and he's ancient, still working though. The brain is

    hard wired to pick up on congruent and incongruent signals, it takes a real pro to sift through the fine

    incongruities, there's some guy, a professor I think, who is the world's leading authority on facial signals.

    Salesmen, politicans, and con men work hard at ironing out incongruities, often with masking behavious like

    excessive gesticualition or consciously overworking their facial muscles to obscure their fine motor "tells". Women

    seem to be more finely tuned to congruity and incongruity that men are as congrity has less to do with chucking a

    speak through a hyena than it does with mate selection. If you are moderately incongruent, women will ready you as

    "creepy" of "off putting" without exactly being able to say why, some bad asses succeed because they are congruent

    as bad asses, it's the undigested, poorly integrated parts of the psyche that generate confusion or discomfort in

    others, that translates into not getting laid.

    Having said all of that, NLP paid lip service to the congruity

    problem, with the lone exception of Dobson they didn't know what to do with it. It was one of those gassy

    generalizations that forever hung in the air and nobody could shape into procedure.
    I'd be interested in

    learning more about this. It's hard to be congruent when you have an evil twin.
    DrSmellThis (creator of P H E R O S)

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrSmellThis
    God I was

    immature back then! Those were the old days before etiquette was invented.
    Ah the good old days

    (<-- that's meant to be a contented grin btw)
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    "it's the undigested, poorly

    integrated parts of the psyche that generate confusion or discomfort in others, that translates into not getting

    laid.
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    Great point.

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    No shame Doc, I love your evil

    twin!!!!!

    He drinks pabst and speaks him mind!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjf
    No shame Doc, I love

    your evil twin!!!!!

    He drinks pabst and speaks him mind!
    Funny.. I'd imagined the evil twin to be

    an absinthe kind of guy, personally.
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    Everybody who wants the gifts of

    pheromone science to get better for themselves should get as many raw pheromones as they can -- all of them if

    possible -- and experiment with them. That is the only way for all of us to learn. The responsibility can't lie

    with product manufacturers, who are going to not tell people results, to protect sales, or for whatever other

    reasons. Every morning I lay out like a two foot long row of bottles of things to maybe put on myself. I try

    different things, depending on the day. Of course, that's extreme. It seems to me that few people passionately

    experiment with these things.

    One recent experiment is to forego -none entirely while wearing things I know will

    convert to -none.
    DrSmellThis (creator of P H E R O S)

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    Doc, I really did agree with everything

    your drunken evil twin said, which is why I bumped it up - so everyone could see it. You can only go so far messing

    around with the same old sh!t before it gets boring. What about partipating in the collect-your-own sweat

    experiment? Einstein collected his pee for science, for god sakes!

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    Exclamation NLP history, not the faint of heart

    annnnnnnnnnddddddd heeeeeeeere's richaaaaaaaard!!!!!!!!!

    A gnarly piece of the real history of NLP, general

    cautionary story....

    http://www.geocities.com/bandlertrial/bandler1.html

    An eye opener.

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    Quote Originally Posted by surfs_up
    annnnnnnnnnddddddd

    heeeeeeeere's richaaaaaaaard!!!!!!!!!

    A gnarly piece of the real history of NLP, general cautionary story....



    [url="http://www.geocities.com/bandlertrial/bandler1.html"]http://www.geocities.com/bandlertrial/bandler1.html[/ur

    l]

    An eye opener.
    Awesome story.

    -Bass
    somewhere between amused and obsessed...

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    Thanks. Maybe Mr. Twin will have

    to pay a visit soon -- just without appearing to crap on so many people who are trying to make a living.
    DrSmellThis (creator of P H E R O S)

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