2 successful styles to get lots of women

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hey y\'all
i\'ve been thinking about it, and i truly believe there are two ways to get lots of women:
1) the player style = lots of sex
2) the gentlemen style = lots of women in love with you

for the player style, check out www.pickupguide.com/layguide
for the gentlemen style check out www.askmen.com

i\'d recommend college kids use pickupguide and older dudes use gentlemen style...they have many similarities but the difference is in the sexual attitude

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What about older dudes who want to be college kids? [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif[/img]

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yea go ahead go for it

it\'s just that more college kids look for sex

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Have you tried both? Also, how do you say the patterns in layguide naturally and without getting tossed in jail !? Can you please tell us some stroies about times when they\'ve worked.

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well, i don\'t really use the patterns...i don\'t harass girls...but i\'m casual and sexual and i always talk about gettin\' action and most girls don\'t mind...it\'s just about the overall attitude

you don\'t have to use patterns...i haven\'t tried them yet

[FerroMone]

Well i tried some of it and it worked for me. You will never end
up in jail if you use those patterns i am 100% sure. You should try it sometimes.

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I\'ll try them after i\'ve been going out with a girl for a while (not looking for sex wanna wait till im married, I just want her to be obsessed with me so she doesnt dump me for some looser: see rose pattern). If I end up in prison, YOU\'RE gonna post bond, OK.

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I use to spit patterns from fastseduction.com at girls, and for the most part they just make you sound really weird. I wouldn\'t recommend trying to adopt this style of seduction.

[proteus]

you\'re right that the patterns can make you sound weird - if you don\'t use them within the correct context. However, if your timing/pacing is right and you\'ve already elicited her values, the patterns can be devastating. The trick is to \"listen\" to her closely as you EV her, then through the natural course of conversation slide in the patterns and feed back her values subtly (but don\'t overdo the patterns). I can honestly say that you can make a lady fall head over heels with you within a very short period of time - matter of fact, I\'m very careful who I use this stuff on now because I\'ve found it becomes so easy to seduce a gal so if you don\'t want to leave a trail of broken hearts you better be careful. I was always a poor seducer, but now for the most part I\'m confident enough in my skills that give me an half an hour with a lady (dinner parties are great for this) and she will be mine if I choose :-)

[Watcher]

Another useful is one chatrooms - god ive had some fun there gone all the way to getting good looking chicks to meet me in real life where the pheros kick in. But ive had some fun with music stars who have chatrooms - god i had this big music star want to meet me in real life from halfway around the world. I just disappeared from that one to freaky. The one im talking about is married highly successful - however it could have been very interesting.

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[marv14yag]

Here\'s the BEST advice...DON\'T think before you say something, it S H O W S...

I mean, not from girls, but I got people that come up to me, and say something, and it sounds as if it rehearsed in a play, and they are all nervous (I.....wear none...). I don\'t really think it\'s what you say it, or even HOW you say it, but how you express it to the girl. And, one, and ONLY thing that has EVER worked for me, to make the girl go CRAZY, compared to talking to her like she\'s a friend, is to look in her eyes real deep, and than, don\'t look away, unless she does..Or, every minute or 2...(To keep them guessing..)...Works like a CHARM...Hasn\'t got me a girl yet, but, the girls who HAVE boyfriends, LOOOOVE to flirt with you....You KNOW they like you, but they won\'t go out with you, I think I\'m just going to not worry about it, and just have fun, I mean, after all, if the girl doesn\'t like me that much, what\'s the point in trying to SEDUCE her? The sex isn\'t going ot be that good, I mean, blah blah blah...I\'m not saying, I want to have a relationship, but I want the girl to like me though....Which, is very annyoying, because, the only ones that seem to, are very ugly, or, I don\'t pay attention to them...

Like 7th grade, I got notes from girls who said they wanted to give me a blow job. They weren\'t the BEST looking girls in the class, not ugly, but, I didn\'t CARE, I was looking for the B E S T..That screwed me over...Because, now, some of them look pretty good, that, and, I don\'t have as much of a chance with the HOT girls anyway.

But yeah, I don\'t think that, if the girl doesn\'t like you, and you SEDUCE her, it\'s going to be...Any good anyway. But I do think you could take a FRIEND girl, and make her LIKE you, and than...Hook up with her.

And ANOTHER thing, I got some hot girl friend that likes me...SHHHHHEEEEE just doesn\'t know it yet. Probably, becuase, if we were to hook up, SOMEONE would say someting...

JVK, why can\'t you go back in time and eliminate this....SOCIAL CONDITIONING? HUH! HUH! I hate cops too..I hate society, we should be able to do what we WANT to, not what someone TELLS us.


Bart

Who\'s alpha male now baby! lol Who da jerk! Who da jerk! Who your baby daddy! !

[CptKipling]

You da frinkin looser, dude.

Try thinking, like actually thinking.

Dont expect any help from me on this board, you\'re twisted. And if i saw you in the street, I\'d make you feel like all those people did.

Doesnt matter that you\'re sorry, who cares if you do it again.

You think you\'re alpha? Wrong. Give people some respect, its the best way of being genuinly respected back.

If you were joking, try to get a sense of humour.

[Watcher]

Im just wondering if marg14 is being sacaristic and stupid again and just trying to create some discussion and conterversy not a good way however. Well i wouldnt go around stabbing people or chasing people around its a matter of self control (you know you get the urge to stab someone DONT DO IT - its that simple dont make excuses dont blame anyone else its youre body you control it.) NLP will help if you are that bad try turning those urges on youreself and find a gun and end it. That way you wont be around to kill anyone else and you wont go on being tormented for the rest of youre years.

[marv14yag]

Watcher...No, I\'m NOT lying...My life has not been ALL to great, I wasn\'t joking. For the most part though, I try to be a nice person. And unlike you think I have more self control than you know, I just have stronger urges...Literally, I would have killed some people if not my self control...

Anyway, I give people respect, it\'s not like that, just when I get pissed off about something, I you know...Have them urges...

I asked for help, not CRITICISM!
Oh, and yes, I DO turn it around on myself, a lot of depression, man, my life is S A D! It seems like I can\'t do ANYTHING right realy....Every time...

Bart

[proteus]

yup, gotta agree chat rooms are good places to practice all this patterning/NLP stuff - not quite the same as real time seduction, but good practice nevertheless and with the zillions of women online now - even my hot female friends who swore they\'d never go online in the early days of the net are all on things like AOL now. Hey Watcher, any chance you\'ll clue us in as to who this music star was you chatted up?? You must have serious seduction skills!!! Closest I ever got to chatting with a star was having one mundane question answered by Carrie-Anne Moss in an online public chat :-)

[xvs]

Just teen angst...

Try (though it\'s hard) not to take things too seriously. That\'s the #1 mistake teens (and anyone else for that matter) make.

You are a teen, aren\'t you?

[Watcher]

Two things in the early years make things seem all life encompassing etc etc. Hormones and lack of life experience. I had a friend he hooked up with a young overseas girl, now he married her but it was like. Its my love its my love - shes my everything id die for her yeah man ill die for her on and on. I eventually just cut him off because he got weird, had no self feedback (i mean being able to look at oneself from another point of view - NLP here) he just got really emotional went into freefall tried suicide all sorts of bullshit became very draining any help was rejected it was better off to leave him to it, last thing i heard hed divorced her shed taken the kid back overseas and he was blabbing on about how stupid hed been (marriage lasted 2 years). So he landed ok. But i guess when youre body is saying SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX all reasoning goes out the window right and we blame everyone else (disagree with me on this please) weve done nothing wrong etc etc.
The best appraoch with women is to talk to her using the keywords she uses this is the most helpful tip i can give as far as the chatrooms go. Turn her keywords back into the conversation - trance words. etc.

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[CptKipling]

xvs is right, dont take things so ceriously, espescially yourself, step back from the situation and take a real look.

Ok, I got angry, but I\'m not making excuses, your post really pissed me off, you seemed quite pround of the fact.

Everyone gets urges (ok maybe not everyone, most people our age), I know I do, like nothing I can describe, but I always think about afterwards, and how I would feel if it were reversed. Someone said to me \"Do unto others as you wish to be done to you\", quite corny, but its how society \"should\" work. Sometimes I just dont care about consequences or anything else, but its usually extreem, or in self defence, or when I can my anger about to explode \'cos I\'v been containing it. Seriously, take a long deep breath, and think.

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Bart, Angel Face,It\'s good to talk about things. We\'ve all done things we wish we hadn\'t. I can relate a little, maybe. I\'m easily overstimulated and when I need to be left alone, I really need to be left alone, and if I can\'t get quiet and solitude I\'m a bitch on wheels, snappish and irritable, very sharp tongued. However. It sounds like you\'re having some sadism stuff, maybe, as well as struggling with impulse control. Do your sexual fantasies include violence?Tell me how you felt before and after you did the mean things. IF you can find a good dojo with a really good sensei, one who\'s into the deeper meanings, I would recommend martial arts. Do you have any close relationships with mature males?If not martial arts under supervision of a very good teacher, do something physical. Run, kickbox, do something to wear yourself out on a daily basis.All the best to you,Renee

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Tell us how old you are, that will be helpful.

[Watcher]

Fullred i thinks he is 15 (just remembering from a previous post when he first came onto the board - said he was young but still wanted an edge to get girls, he copped some flack about his age - but he was ok to start using them.

Another point is that :\"retarded\' kids are targeted in school in general by those who are sexually active and uncontrolled hormones my theroy is that they are viewed as sexually inferior if not on an unconscious level with the usual resoning of that they are stupid or dumb looking etc. I still say that this is sexual behaviour in a nutshell from kids that havent learnt a bigger worldview yet and its to chase off the competition and a training ground for the isolation and class structure later on in life (ie you dont measure up sexually for the norm - so take an outside role and we will make sure you stay there because we have so much spare energy left and nothing to focus on - thats why martial arts are so effect at concentration. Those basic human behaviours have not been affected by recent moves in human thinking ie racial upheavals (60s) feminism (70s) affirmative action (80s) consumerism and the balancing of class sturctures(90s) non verbal class structure based on sexual appearences still hasnt happened and wont until the full role of pheromone and related sexual motivations is fully understood by society as a whole i woud say 2000-2010 the next revolution.

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Yes, I\'m sure you\'re right. He\'s talking about something very serious, though, which is keeping thought and action separated. I can see you\'ve had your bouts with primal surges, but I would bet you never hit your brother in the back with an ax.

[chummym]

critism: chummym thinks this kid is a pussy that targets people who can\'t defend themselfs...probably has some physical defect that he got picked on for so now he\'s turned into a bully... theres no excuse for behavior like you talk about get a [censored] clue that other people even mentally handicap people have feelings too and are people...i really feel sorry for ya when someone with a conscious see\'s you doing [censored] like that and puts your dumb ass in a hospital.

advice: get some professional help...seriously...you have issues.

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Marv14:

What\'s up? So.....you HATE cops right? Well, I\'m a COP. A COP for the NYPD, you know New York City, home of the former World Trade Center Twin Towers. On September 11th 2001, I was there smack dead in the middle of the chaos and mayhem.....where were you? Hiding somewhere safe? Guess what, 23 of my people died helping others, and 343 NYC Firefighters did the same, before you open your mouth and say something so stupid and immature, think about the COPS you hate, we don\'t make millions, we make just enough to get by.....protecting ungrateful people like you. HOW DARE you chase, and harass retarded people? They have a mental deficiency, and they have NO control over it. How would you like it if someone chased you with intent to harm you for laughs? I\'m sure you\'d crap your pants. Not for nothing but people like you front the tough guy personality, but I GUARANTEE it 110% that you shrink down to the size of an ameoba (single celled microscopic organism) when you\'re confronted right? You\'re a big tough guy by picking on retarded people. Come here to NYC and pick on me, try beating me up, running me into poles. Oh, by the way when you see a blind person with a big German Shepherd seeing eye dog, start bothering the blind person and see what the dog does. Remember.......hate cops, but then when your ass is in trouble, remember who\'s going to be there to save your ass. Grow up, drop the tough-guy front, because someday, when you\'re bothering someone, what are you going to do if they punch you square in the mouth, pull a gun or a knife? You going to stand there and take it like the tough guy you try to be? OR Are you going to start crying \"POLICE!!!!!! HELP!!!!!!\" The more you hate us, the more you will learn.

P.S. You hate society, poor baby. We HAVE laws to make life better......don\'t live by those laws and live in an 8\'x8\' concrete cell and become someone\'s girlfriend.

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Marv:

I wasn\'t threatening you in anyway, I was just getting a point across. If you seriously feel that you have those urges, you REALLY need to see a professional. Chronic feelings, and urges like that are sure signs of someone who\'s going to grow up to be a serial killer. Remember, picking on people with disabilities, handicaps, defects, etc does NOT make you a tough guy, or make people think you\'re a big shot. When people see that, they look down at you, it makes you look like the person with the disability, handicap, defect, etc. If you have a bad life at home, it\'s up to you to make something better of it. When you grow up, get married, and have a kid(s), would you want them to experience what you experienced? A man doesn\'t need to be tough, or beat up people to be respected by others. Just be cool, mature, and HELP others. You want to attract women? Try volunteering in a hospital, soup kitchen, etc. THAT will show women that you have heart, and will score you infinite amounts of respect from others.....and you WILL feel GREAT about yourself afterwards. I believe it was Fulltiltredhead that said take up martial arts, or kickboxing to release built up rage and anger, well she\'s 100% right about that. Not only will you get to blast out all that anger on a punching bag, but YOU WILL LEARN other VALUABLE things like -DISCIPLINE, SELF-RESPECT, CONFIDENCE, and RESPECT FOR OTHERS. Give it a shot if you choose not to see a professional. Ever regular old exercise is great for your mind and body. When you exercise, you brain releases chemicals called \"Endorphins\" those chemicals give you a \"natural high\" The more you do it, the better you\'ll feel mentally, and physically.

[Watcher]

Well ive had urges but have always had the control to get a hold before letting them go. It is a very serious thing, i guess with me it was 3 years of self-hypnosis and very strong meditation that helped me, i just needed focus. Primal urges are able to be controlled, once you recongize the core of the urges you can control it. Hitting someone with an ax definetley not thats just plain abuse. Those with no power however get frustrated (sexual urges unfulfilled) and then thats where anger comes from thats why life education is so important. With men at least thought and action can be seperated due to logic moreso than women (sorry hormones play an important part james kohl has the right idea).

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Watcher, where do you get this stuff about women not being able to be logical? I took symbolic logic instead of math in college and made straight A\'s, and it\'s the segment where I score highest on IQ tests. You are not the first man on this forum I\'ve heard say this thing in almost exactly these words. Please would you tell me where you\'re getting this. I work in an intellectual property law firm and some of the attorneys there are beautiful young women with ph.d.\'s in physics from ivy league schools. The idea that women can\'t think logically because of their hormones is antiquated and just doesn\'t play out anymore. It\'s a Victorian notion. This misinformation could lead you to underestimate your \"opponent.\" Don\'t assume we can\'t think logically. Most of us have minds like steel traps and project flibbertigibbet to throw you off while we suss you out. :-) I hope you would at least never ever ever say such a thing to a woman or ever let her think you think it. I\'m pretty broad-minded but I must tell you, this is sexist pig thinking and beneath you. It\'s prejudice, it\'s as bad as if I were to say you can\'t think because you\'re all testosteroney.Whitehall: Don\'t start. :-)lol

[Watcher]

Ok educated logic is ok. Im talking about not having male logic, its been shown that women are more emotional by nature.

Ok i should have used the word \"rational\" instead of logic. My apologies. Its good that you have done symbolic logic and sound like you have an amazing IQ. Hence youre activity and helpfulness on the forum oscars been pretty quite latley. Ive got a steeltrap mind also it does come in very handy indeed.

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I\'m glad we have mutual respect - guess we wouldn\'t hash things out if either of us thought the other was unable to think logically ... Do you mind if I push this a little?Um...it doesn\'t help to substitute \"rationally\" for \"logically.\" Now you\'re telling me that women are irrational.What do you mean, educated logic is ok. As opposed to what kind of logic? Male logic as opposed to female logic? I don\'t think there are kinds, are there?And I really do want to know where this information\'s coming from. Is this Ross Jeffries, whoever he is? or who\'s telling you this?

[Watcher]

Educated logic is ok. Creative logic is good. Stupidity logic is dumb ie making decisions that can be considered further based upon instinct when instinct can be wrong - synthetic pheromone influences for one. This information comes from my life experience which is limited i will admit so far (heck im only 22) Ross Jeffries has the idea (on sex pickups only) no its a combination of female attitudes with those i interact with on the value of men (australian women think lowly of men - its a localised cultural thing - which leads me to be slightly pissed off also.) There are various types of logic as i said before however the word i should have used was a reduction of rationa thoughts based on genetics and brain wiring.

In other words how we perceive the world etc.

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