Rolling the Dice with Phero's

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Bubbafero here,

First i\'d like to send greeting to the Phero brotherhood.

Well to begin, I travel to casinolands extensively. You might call me a Professional if you\'d like. I do know the odds and the knowhow of the games i play. overall i come out in the positive. And i do play by the rules!!

Well enough of that. I\'m not trying to boast here that\'s not why i\'m writing. i\'m here because casino management, pit bosses etc... don\'t like people of my kind. People who don\'t end up donating money to them.

On my last visit i used some attraction. seemed to have little affect on the bad attitudes of the upper management. i\'m looking for a combo to help me lighten them up a little bit. to affect both women and men. Any advise???

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I have done business contract work for American Indian casino\'s. If I were you I would use the female REALM. Experiment with it.
Just as important, a professional player like yourself fits a profile and security can spot a professional quickly by clothing,body language,attitude,etc. Try altering these with a different mind set. Observe inexperienced players and replicate their attitude, behavior, and dress.

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Hey BubbaDude,
Greetings from CasinoLand. As far as a mone mixture that will have the Floor People and Pit Bosses lighten up...hummm. So you want something that when they peg you as a Counter they will ease up? Well first off don\'t be so \"computer Perfect\" on our play. Mess up a bit. They (Surv) tracks your play on Computer, the closer you get to a perfect (perfect...as in - the highest probable win ratio) game the harder they sweat you (well they \"Pit Bosses\" sweat it like it\'s their own money). Anyway a product that will help you out. Try Attraction, it has both strong doses of both \"none\" and \"nol\" type pheros. I have found in casino environments that this is a good one to chill people out, and good conversations. Well this might help unless you are already in the \"Griffen\" book.

Anyway Best of Luck
TCO

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To tallcoolone,

i am aware of the eye in the sky. the \"Griffen book\" i have never heard of it. what is it???

well in blackjack, a knowlegdeable pro can get barred easily. so i don\'t bother with that. craps people say is a game of chance and cannot be mastered. as you know it offers one of the lowest casino percentages against a player. put that together with a simple game plan and whala.

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=\"1\" face=\"Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif\">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by bubbafero:
To tallcoolone,

i am aware of the eye in the sky. the \"Griffen book\" i have never heard of it. what is it???

well in blackjack, a knowlegdeable pro can get barred easily. so i don\'t bother with that. craps people say is a game of chance and cannot be mastered. as you know it offers one of the lowest casino percentages against a player. put that together with a simple game plan and whala.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


In the long run, the casino always wins against the player. Except if you\'re playing poker or blackjack (flawlessly).

Joe

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Bubba Dude,
The Griffin Book is a book of \"known\" - Counters, Cheats, Teams, gaming undesirables and Nevada Gaming Commission Blacklisted people. It has names, photos, aliases, Games frequented and a brief history of gaming involvement. Actually it is pretty in depth. And yes the good ole crap table. Yes the Crap pit is a place where you can even bet with the house (i.e. \"Don\'t Pass Line\" for those reading who are not craps savvy). But for what it is worth no matter what you as the player does it all comes out to a 14-16 percent rake for the house year in, year out.
But try some pheros and you will see hostile Boxmen, and floor people chill out a bit. But maybe not so much Andro. as too much seems to provoke hostility from other males.
Best of luck in your gaming endeavors. And post your results of interactions with the Pit folks.

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Joe,
Poker really is a novelty for casinos. As the Casino wins on every hand. But the volume of play is rather low. Most poker players are not on the high end in the betting portion of things. The house gets a small percentage of every bet, this is called the \"Rake\". And as far as BlackJack, this as in all games in a casino the odds favor the house. But a good counter can reduce those odds. But in all actuality unless you have knowledge of the outcome of the game the odds are in the houses favor. I mean if you know the hold card before it is turned over, you have an advantage. Anyway casinos are an interesting industry.

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Comping:
Well each casino has it\'s own house rules for comping things (i.e food, room, beverage, shows etc.). Some casinos will have the floor people on the pit \"rate a players - Play\". They note how often you bet, what amounts you bet etc. They then come up with your daily worth to the casino. This is where comping comes in. In slots it is easy. That is why you see in every casino worth it\'s salt a players club. Give ya a little card and you put it into a machine then you play. It rates you on coin in, coin out, win ratio, daily worth etc. On the pit it is sometimes left up to the Pit Boss. But in our properties you need to show \"speed\" if you are wanting a comp. And by \"speed\" i mean , large constant bets. I am not talking about a $25 blackjack bet here and there I am talking a consistent \"Black\" or above player. Black meaning a black check (chip) which is $100.00. Some places will not even think about a comp (unless for Buffet) unless you show great speed and consistent play. We have had folks really get pissed as they think they are playing high stakes (5-10 dollar player) when it will take

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Comping:
Well each casino has it\'s own house rules for comping things (i.e food, room, beverage, shows etc.). Some casinos will have the floor people on the pit \"rate a players - Play\". They note how often you bet, what amounts you bet etc. They then come up with your daily worth to the casino. This is where comping comes in. In slots it is easy. That is why you see in every casino worth it\'s salt a players club. Give ya a little card and you put it into a machine then you play. It rates you on coin in, coin out, win ratio, daily worth etc. On the pit it is sometimes left up to the Pit Boss. But in our properties you need to show \"speed\" if you are wanting a comp. And by \"speed\" i mean , large constant bets. I am not talking about a $25 blackjack bet here and there I am talking a consistent \"Black\" or above player. Black meaning a black check (chip) which is $100.00. Some places will not even think about a comp (unless for Buffet) unless you show great speed and consistent play. We have had folks really get pissed as they think they are playing high stakes (5-10 dollar player) when it will take breaking black to get the floor persons attention. Anyway enough rambling.

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You\'re right on all acounts TCO.

My point was that it was \'practically\' impossible to make a living playing against the casino. So any romantic notions about cleaning the house are very unrealistic.

But wouldn\'t you agree that if you\'re playing to get comped, you have, in a way, \'beaten\' (and I use the term loosely here) the casino if you\'re overall losses are very small?. After all the comps do have intrinsic monetary value and wouldn\'t a player, with a succesful combination of pheros, might be able to elicit enough good will from the casino supervisor(?)to earn said comps?

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