The question

[Lee]

depends...do you like Sandalwood? If not, get unscented cause you can mix it with other stuff like SOE or your own colgne.

Sandalwood or not, the cat piss smell is still there.

[Bruce]

The sandalwood can be mixed with some simple scents, essential oils etc. In fact, it smells great mixed with the SP musk oil that comes with the beginners set.
Bruce

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In terms of effectiveness? About the same?
If I had no success with Pi/m would this be the right product(newbie set) to try? Or should I be going for a more -nol based product?

[Lee]

In terms of effectiveness in TE or TES, it\'s the same.

PI/m isn\'t working out for you? What you can do is buy the newbie set and either mix the spmo and edge together or apply them seperately. SPMO has an unknown amount of -nol but some reports seem to indicate that it could very well be high on -nol.

What type of hits are you looking for? If it\'s sexual hits like DIHL, you\'re not likely gonna have that with -nol.

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Scented or Sandalwood TE -> That is the question

[xvs]

Do the androstenone calculation and see if androstenone is likely to work for you. If not, get a product which doesn\'t contain it.

[Watcher]

Sandlewood (i wonder if NPA would come in a sandlewood fragrence they seem to go pretty well along with the musk scents as well.

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xvs:

What would be _very_ interesting is if the thousands of lurkers who read this forum but haven\'t posted would do the none calc and then report their score along with whether or not none works for them. A really large sample would be a good thing...

[ May 11, 2002: Message edited by: BassMan ]

[Watcher]

Are there really that many hanging around here at present well i thought so i still say sandlewood and that test idea is great also you might want to put build in

ie small medium or well built or something along those lines.

Big guys can be very intimidating except for the preverbal \"loud mouthed skateboard types\" who just get so annoying and talk till they are blue in the face. That any chance of getting attention is good, also good for removing \"attention seekers\"
I removed the w word for that one.