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    I recieved two free

    gel packs with my order. What is the best way to use this stuff? How should I wear it, and how much should I wear?

    Is this stuff safe for a work environment?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrow View Post
    I

    recieved two free gel packs with my order. What is the best way to use this stuff? How should I wear it, and how

    much should I wear? Is this stuff safe for a work environment?
    These

    Perception gel packs contain .08 mg = 80 mcg of pheromones, the pheromones are disolved within a water based polymer

    matrix, and this base was designed to slow the diffusion of the product so that the pheromone effects will last

    longer than than the normal sorta 5 hours that conventional phero carriers

    offord.




    The contents of the 80 mcg pheromones are divided in these proportions

    Androstenol @ 40 mcg + Androsterone @ 20 mcg + Androstenone @ 20

    mcg.




    I have not found this formula to be heavy hitting and i would not hesitate

    in wearing some to work as there is enough social aspect within this gel so as to make a charasmatic gentleman out

    of the dominance of its Alpha aspect

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    If you are under 25 then i would use up 1/2 the pack and for an over 30 you

    may apply a full gel with

    confidence.




    I remember years ago when i did apply full Perception gel packs all around

    my gills and then did apply a divided drop of unscented PI below each ear, the added PI into the mix did sure call

    out some good hits as i recall.
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    I personally found Perception pretty

    weak on it's own. I *think* I finally got a response after applying a full gel pack.

    Where Perception shines is

    in it's "extender" ability. Applying Perception OVER a fragrance or other pheromone product seems to make the

    effects (both scent and responses) last longer. Whereas most phero products seem to weaken after about 4 to 6 hours,

    an application of Perception seems to extend the "useful hits" life to somewhere between 8 to 12 hours. A big

    advantage especially if you have a long day and/or night planned. Just be careful as there are pheromones in

    Perception and if you get carried away you can OD, especially with stronger, more concentrated phero products like

    Primal Instinct.

    You can try experimenting with a cologne or other fragrance first to see how it affects its

    duration, then go from there with phero products.


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    Thanks for your responses.

    I

    wore a small bit today. I was a little worried about putting on too much so I squeezed three very small drops for

    under each ear and the middle of my neck. It wasn't even a half pack I don't think. Is this stuff okay to use with

    regular cologne? Just wondering because I did use 1 spray of some cologne today.

    I am mid thirties.. Are you

    saying I could use a whole pack?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrow View Post
    Thanks for

    your responses.

    I wore a small bit today. I was a little worried about putting on too much so I squeezed three

    very small drops for under each ear and the middle of my neck. It wasn't even a half pack I don't think. Is this

    stuff okay to use with regular cologne? Just wondering because I did use 1 spray of some cologne today.

    I am mid

    thirties.. Are you saying I could use a whole pack?
    Perception has some formula that supposedly holds the

    scent longer,as well as slows the release of the mones. I never had results from it as a pheromone product but it

    really does help hold thescent. Put it over your cologne and you should be able to wear a whole pack easily.
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    Just like any pheromone product the

    "dosage" can vary from person to person, and from situation to situation. Some people can get by with relatively

    large doses of some products, while others find that even a very small amount may be more than enough. Some products

    may work great for some, and not at all for others, no matter how much is used.

    This is why it's so hard to

    find a product that works for you, one that works all the time, and in figuring out how much one needs to apply.



    Current weather conditions can make a difference.

    The general body chemistry cycles of both men and women can

    make a difference.

    It's even been said what you eat can make a difference.

    We can base some of our

    selections on what others have reported, but it's only a generalization. It still comes down to having to

    experiment on our own. Try many different products, try many different dosages.

    You also have to consider who

    your "targets" are. Are you comparing results using the same group of people, or are you encountering different

    people? You may find a product/dosage that works great on person #1, but is an epic fail with person #2.

    Frustrating, but that is the way it is.

    A few people here on the forums have reported good results with

    Perception. Many haven't.

    As I understand it, the product was developed more as a test bed for the

    long-lasting properties of the carrier rather than the effectiveness of the pheomones. It can serve as a good basic

    pero product, and it may work great for someone who only really needs a small boost.

    The one almost universal

    agreement with Perception, and why I think it could serve as a good addition to anyone's basic pheromone product

    stock, it that "extender" property that seems to increase the "effective life" of any colonge/fragrance or other

    pheromone product that is applied under it. One of the most frustrating things I encounter is that I can put on a

    fragrance or phero product when I leave the house, but by the time I really could use the "effects" it's many hours

    later. The extra time Perception gives to other product's effective life can come in real handy. (I have attended

    events that can go on 24/day with little or no chance for a re-application of cologne or other products.)



    Essentially it comes down to experimentation. For me, it took months and multiple tries with the first

    event/reaction I could attribute to Perception coming at a full pack application. Your results may vary. And that's

    the catch.
    The opposite of love isn't hate.
    It's apathy
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    thank you for all the respones,

    they are very helpful.

    I have another question about these gel packs. I used 3 very small drops from one pack on

    Friday, and I put the rest of the pack in a zip lock baggy. Will the rest of the pack be good to use on Monday or

    will it not be good anymore?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrow View Post
    thank you

    for all the respones, they are very helpful.

    I have another question about these gel packs. I used 3 very small

    drops from one pack on Friday, and I put the rest of the pack in a zip lock baggy. Will the rest of the pack be good

    to use on Monday or will it not be good anymore?
    It will be fine. I used to close opened gel packs with a

    paperclip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by belgareth View Post
    It

    will be fine. I used to close opened gel packs with a paperclip.
    I can

    certainly believe it Belgareth because a couple years back i had a 1/2 a gel pack that had been sittin on my

    bathroom window sill just folded over with a paper clip for months, and one morning i was suddenly called to pick my

    girl up from a womans shopping precinct so i had a very quick shave and as my face was a little rough i spread the

    reminents of this old gel pack over my face and neck and drove over town to the womans shopping precinct where i did

    receive the best phero related hits that i had in this particular area ever before, it was unreal and certainly

    unexpected.
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    The general opinion here on the

    forums has been that as long as the gel pack hasn't dried out, it's probably still quite good, even if it has been

    sitting for quite a while.

    In fact some think that it just makes the gel "stronger" (or "more mature") and may

    work even better... sorta like a fine wine...

    The opposite of love isn't hate.
    It's apathy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rbt View Post
    The

    general opinion here on the forums has been that as long as the gel pack hasn't dried out, it's probably still

    quite good, even if it has been sitting for quite a while.

    In fact some think that it just makes the

    gel "stronger" (or "more mature") and may work even better... sorta like a fine

    wine...
    This sounds like me ha ha, thanks for reminding

    me, as i have some original Xcite Wipes sitin in a cool area i think its time i used them up, with an added splash

    of NPA, not for use at church of course . . . . . unless you are a scientist lol
    I AM. Out of my mind .... .... ....

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    Ok, here is what I did today.

    Tell me what you think.

    1 spray of Cool Water
    1 roll of SOE on each forearm
    I used up the rest of my

    Perception gel pack (which was almost a whole pack)
    And later on I spritzed with 4 four sprays of LT

    What do

    you think, Did I overdo it? I probably could have just stopped with the Cool Water and SOE, I think that's a nice

    combo...very nice smell.

    I really didn't notice anything different though.

    Should I break out the second

    pack and try again, or just wait a while before using it again?

    I am only working with one target though, she's

    the only one I have an interest in right now.

    By the way, what is NPA? I keep hearing good things about it. can

    you tell me a bit about it?

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrow View Post
    Ok,

    here is what I did today. Tell me what you think.

    1 spray of Cool Water
    1 roll of SOE on each forearm
    I used

    up the rest of my Perception gel pack (which was almost a whole pack)
    And later on I spritzed with 4 four sprays of

    LT

    What do you think, Did I overdo it?
    I probably could have just stopped with the Cool Water and SOE, I

    think that's a nice combo...very nice smell.
    I really didn't notice anything different though.



    Should I break out the second pack and try again, or just wait a while before using it again?

    I am only

    working with one target though, she's the only one I have an interest in right now.

    By the way, what is NPA? I

    keep hearing good things about it. can you tell me a bit about it?



    Thanks!
    You probably could have stopped with the Cool Water and SOE, or

    Just used the Perception alone because it is a triple pheromone formula in its self, and i am not saying that some

    LT sprays would have not worked with any of the pheromone applications but when using products for the first time i

    recon it is better to keep the apps fairly simple just so that you get an idea of their capabilities when used

    alone.


    NPA is an Androstenone additive which is

    designed to be used with colognes and aftershaves at the average ratio of 1:5 , some experienced users will actually

    dab it on straight from the dropper bottle by way of finger tip by placing a finger tip lightly over the stopper and

    inverting the bottle and therefore leaving a small or a large dab on the finger all depending upon the finger

    pressure applied to the stopper at the time of inverting the bottle.




    To obtain a measured easy to use spray of this same formula then it can be

    purchased under the name of The Edge in a spray bottle, some Edge products are scented, i have used The Edge

    Sandalwood and its smells nice . . ..


    Users have

    often added NPA to their social pheromones to add some sex appeal.




    If a person is interested in pheromone experimentation then NPA is not what

    i would consider the best product for this purpose because NPA contains 50% Androstenone in its formula and the

    remaining 50 % is an unknown secret and it is these unknown pheromones that can throw a spanner in the intentions of

    using NPA as a pure Androstenone pheromone experimentation mix vehicle.




    Of course NPA has and often is used with success in user mixes but one has

    to be somewhat intuitive and knowledgable and it is certainly advisable when fist embarking on a mix programme to

    only start off with very small amounts of your products by making up small test batches as by doing this there is

    not a risk of wasting the contents of your good products if the mix ends up unworkable ect. . .

    .


    Also because NPA contains 50% of its formula as

    secret steering pheromones i find that NPA can be used alone and great results can be obtained when one gets a

    handle on just how many dabs or drops may suit them.





    With NPA being a concentrate then the cologne used is a good vehicle to

    actually help spread the NPA over a larger skin surface area so as to assist with the pheromone diffusion ect.

    I AM. Out of my mind .... .... ....

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    I had a great day today using

    just Cool Water and SOE. Two thumbs up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrow View Post
    I had a

    great day today using just Cool Water and SOE. Two thumbs up!
    Yes Scent

    of Eros certainly is a reliable product and a great travelling

    companion.


    I did order a bottle of Soul Curve by Liz

    Claiborne last night, this is a product that is not sold in commercial outlets here downunder so i bought it from a

    local eBay dealer who has a high turnover in colognes and perfumes.




    I have never used this cologne before so i hope it will be ok

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    Quote Originally Posted by terry0400-40 View Post
    I did order a bottle of Soul Curve by Liz

    Claiborne last night. ...
    I have never used this cologne

    before so i hope it will be ok
    The original Curve cologne by Liz Claiborne

    is appreciated by women apparently according to the web reviews.

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    I used the last of my Perception

    gel pack yesterday. I used it with Cool Water cologne and SOE.

    I am 37 years old and I was told by a 20 year old

    female that I smelled very sexy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrow View Post
    I used

    the last of my Perception gel pack yesterday. I used it with Cool Water cologne and SOE.

    I am 37 years old and I

    was told by a 20 year old female that I smelled very sexy.
    Good luck

    and great reporting, i have no CW cologne but my Soul Curve has arrived and i will splash some on with 1/4 of my

    last SOE gel pack and 1/2 Perception gel, i haven't smelled sexy for awhile so this should give me a nice fresh

    Sexy Easter blast cheers
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