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    Here's a

    handy tip for mixing oil based products. Keep your old SOE bottles because the roll on is brilliant for getting

    accurate and consistent doses. A mix I am trying at the moment is 20 drops PI/W and 10 drops A7. This makes 1.5 ml

    and I add an equal amount of massage oil to make a total of 3 ml. This is enough to experiment but not wasteful if

    it doesn't work. The massage oil is scented YlangYlang and lavender and covers very well. The resulting total

    concentration is only slightly less than SOE and the doses can be a similar number of inches. Shake well each time

    although it seems to stay mixed with no separation..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldcoastq View Post
    Here's a handy tip for mixing oil based products. Keep your old SOE bottles because the

    roll on is brilliant for getting accurate and consistent doses. A mix I am trying at the moment is 20 drops PI/W and

    10 drops A7. This makes 1.5 ml and I add an equal amount of massage oil to make a total of 3 ml. This is enough to

    experiment but not wasteful if it doesn't work. The massage oil is scented YlangYlang and lavender and covers very

    well. The resulting total concentration is only slightly less than SOE and the doses can be a similar number of

    inches. Shake well each time although it seems to stay mixed with no

    separation..
    It looks good I... the PI /w certainly contains quality

    Androstenol, good luck with the testing of it.

    this

    could give me incentive to restock my A7





    I had a buddy call me from Portugal and he at the moment is getting good

    results with the WKM#1 mix

    so it inspired me to use up

    my last little remaining SOE to make up a small batch, which i did and i whacked on 5 drops which i found did work

    remarkably well as i was in the company of several girls at the time and the interest i received was certainly over

    the top.




    I think i will try it at 4 dr today and go for a little prowl around in the

    name of science.




    I was told that it works if applied over a spray of cologne with another

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    I couldn't find that mix in

    the cookbook but a quick search found it, so for the benefit of others here tis,
    WKM#1 mix
    6 parts SOE/m

    scented
    3 parts NPA/m
    1 part PI/m unscented
    Total concentration is 0.42 with
    .12 NONE
    .24 NOL
    .06 RONE
    plus

    the secret ingredient in npa.
    This is interesting because again the concentration is fairly close to SOE alone

    and I was not aware of this mix when I was evolving mine, which has similar components.

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    It looks good I... the PI /w certainly contains quality Androstenol,

    good luck with the testing of it.

    this could give me

    incentive to restock my A7

    That sounds interesting so sorry for asking from a

    most ignorant position:

    what's PI/w?? Primal Instinct for women??

    does that has Androstenol??

    would it

    make a good replacement for A314?

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    Quote Originally Posted by otomo View Post
    That

    sounds interesting so sorry for asking from a most ignorant position:

    what's PI/w?? Primal Instinct for women??



    does that has Androstenol??

    would it make a good replacement for A314?
    Correct! PI/w = Primal for

    women

    PI/w contains 11mg Androstenol/10ml and a little bit Copuline

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    Quote Originally Posted by otomo View Post
    That

    sounds interesting so sorry for asking from a most ignorant position:

    what's PI/w?? Primal Instinct for

    women??

    does that has Androstenol??

    would it make a good replacement for A314?
    A314 is

    predominately Androsterone I believe. So it is not the same stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldcoastq View Post
    A314 is

    predominately Androsterone I believe. So it is not the same stuff.

    Ah well. It's been ages since I

    last read about A314 specially since it was discountinued from love scent. So I could be wrong about it, I still

    have half a bottle and afraid to use after seeing it can go for a 100usd in other sites, but I remember it's

    effects are definitely different from an androsterone product like WAGG.

    Anyway I don't intend to argue about

    that, instead, two other questions arise, is it possible then to use PI/w being a male?? and would it be a good idea

    to combine it with PI/m??

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    Quote Originally Posted by otomo View Post
    That

    sounds interesting so sorry for asking from a most ignorant position:

    what's PI/w?? Primal Instinct for women??



    does that has Androstenol??

    would it make a good replacement for

    A314?
    Yes A314 contains Androstenone, Androsterone, and another 7

    pheromones in its formulation, i was ordering it in 15 ml size bottles from L-S and also from its manufacturers.





    At the time i was ordering it was also sold in 10 ml size bottles with each

    containing a pheromone weight of 6,667mcg /10 mL.





    And as Goldcoastq says it does contain a good whack of Androsterone, even so

    over the last few years its manufacturers have played around with alterations to its formula and also its fragrance

    as Gegogi and other old timers would have knowledge to.





    And who knows what forms of Androsterone/s ? are used in its formulation and

    also the other pheromones but it was always my opinion that one drop did contain at least 4 mcg Androstenone because

    the wearing of too many drops certainly did produce intimidation effects where as 1 dr or 2 dr created a goodly

    amount of respect, i used around 3 dr which was magic ( for my age ) or 2 dr for an important

    interveiw.




    I have sometimes noticed similar effects when wearing Scent of Eros 5 dr

    with 1 dr Alpha 7 , and also had some great hits with Alpha 7 x 1 dr + A314 x 2 dr yes excellent hits with it but

    only if i was the one doing the approaching and starting the talk, as the combo did inspire respect and awe, yea

    chics were mesmerised by it and would not leave.... but if not approached they would just

    stare.....




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    Quote Originally Posted by otomo View Post
    Ah well.

    It's been ages since I last read about A314 specially since it was discountinued from love scent. So I could be

    wrong about it, I still have half a bottle and afraid to use after seeing it can go for a 100usd in other sites, but

    I remember it's effects are definitely different from an androsterone product like WAGG.

    Anyway I don't

    intend to argue about that, instead, two other questions arise, is it possible then to use PI/w being a male?? and

    would it be a good idea to combine it with PI/m??
    I would guess that WAGG could contain some RONE,

    but I thought the actual ingredients were secret. The only other product I know of that contains mostly rone is

    Instant Gentleman. I haven't tried either of these myself. Apart from that if you want a replacement for A314 I

    would be heading to the Kits & Supplies section in the LS store to get the pure rone.
    It would be a good idea to

    combine PI/W (nol) with PI/M (none) to achieve your desired result. More nol and less none for chattiness with a

    hint of sexual tension, or less nol and more none for lots of heat with just the edge taken off a little bit so

    she's turned on but not too intimidated.

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    @terry

    Ah yes, that could be

    it, indeed they have changed the formula around over the years.

    Stil the effect as you so well put it:

    "the

    combo did inspire respect and awe, yea chics were mesmerised by it and would not leave.... but if not approached

    they would just stare....."

    that always made me think there was something else other than 'rone on it, from

    somewhere I must have pulled the idea that it was due to 'nol and nothing else.

    Also at two drops it barely

    made an effect so I always used 5 (therefore I denied to myself the prescence of none because you know how easily it

    is to OD on none) with the aforementioned results, the spark in the girl's eyes when staring at me just wouldn't

    go, I came to use it just to get that unique stare from certain girls, it truly is/was an special product.

    So

    you'd say 5dr (drops?) of SOE plus 1 of A7 would get similar results??


    @Goldcoastq

    Well again I could be

    mistaken as this was like 5 years ago but I could swear the standard WAGG was pure rone, then they came out with the

    N version to add some sexual tension to the product.

    I'm actually looking into moving from rone to oxy and A1,

    but if PI/w contains so much concentration of nol it becomes a top in my book, being oil based PI/m lasts and lasts

    and lasts for me, although it can be harsher when compared to A7 somehow it stands on it's own when used on

    minuscle amounts.


    I'm open to any further advise you guys care to share.
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    I don't know what pure rone

    smells like but I can say that WAGG has a definite pheromone smell but it is pleasantly sweet smelling, totally

    unlike none, and now you've got me curious what actually is in WAGG.
    So.......Terry, what do you think?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldcoastq View Post
    I

    don't know what pure rone smells like but I can say that WAGG has a definite pheromone smell but it is pleasantly

    sweet smelling, totally unlike none, and now you've got me curious what actually is in WAGG.
    So.......Terry, what

    do you think?
    Hi I it could have an abundance of

    Androsterone in it some users have reported getting treated like wimps when wearing it, and others recon its a good

    ice breaker, so maby it predominantly rone and nol.

    I

    have used it and to be honest i noticed little at all from it like others, but it seems to work to good effect for

    some

    I Have a bottle of rone in my box so will give it

    a test smell seeing as i am on a juice fast and my sense of smell is improved.
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