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    Default How to use NPA?

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    I have read the

    newbie thread and glanced at the "pheromone encyclopedia". Also done a search on the forum, but found different

    advice. So figured I would ask for a straight forward answer.

    How do you use NPA for a beginner? Would just

    putting one or two drops from the bottle dropper work (then spray cologne over it)? As in, put a drop on your

    finger then put it on your neck and do it twice?

    Overall, after reading stuff I'm just confused how to use it.

    Thanks for any advice.

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    You're exactly right. BUT, the

    dropper top on NPA is a little tricky, and its strong stuff. If you allow an entire drop to come out on your

    finger, quickly put some on another finger and spread it around your application points. That way you'll get a one

    drop application, which is what you want to start with.

    Alternatively, you could just invert the bottle on your

    finger and get a small dab. You could do this twice. And yes, just cover with cologne.

    Start small and work up

    from there, especially with NPA.


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    Alright, thanks for

    that.

    How many drops are in a bottle of NPA? The box I got says it has 7ml in it. So I'm guessing 140 drops.



    Also, I plan on doing the finger over the hole "technique". Is there any rule of thumb on doing it? I read

    basically just put a little pressure over the hole and tip it over. Then just wipe it on the neck. And do this

    twice.

    Last, with spraying the cologne over it, do you just use a regular amount you would use if you weren't

    using NPA?

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    My technique is to mix NPA

    with fragrance (mixing ratio: one part NPA and 2-5 parts fragrance). Advantage: You can apply it on different

    locations and dose it more exactly.
    tip: Do apply NPA (like all strong Androstenone-products) on your neck and not

    on your wrists.

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    I've heard bad things

    about mixing, and don't feel comfortable doing it right now. I am just going to stick with direct

    application.

    Anyways, if anyone can help me with the above, that would be great. Thanks.

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    Actually S-M is right, NPA was

    designed to mix with cologne in a suggested 5:1 ratio, give or take. But you can use it out of the bottle, its just

    more difficult.

    Part of the challenge of NPA is dosing since its so strong, and the dropper is hard to control.

    Its not a very predictable method of dosing, but its ok if you're not too scientific about the whole process. One

    method is to rip the dropper top off the bottle and use a regular glass eye dropper for dosing. Other than that

    just try to do the same thing every time so you're as consistent as possible.

    Yes, just use your regular cologne

    application over your Mone points, maybe a tiny bit more, depending on its strength.

    Give us a little info about

    yourself; age, personality, build etc. NPA is pretty strong for young guys, you may want to do what S-M and a lot

    of others do and mix it. Its not that big of a problem.

    Let us know how things go.


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    I'm 22 in college. If

    you guys think mixing would be better, I'm all for it. Just from what I read it seems confusing (plus I don't

    have a sprayer right now).

    What would be the basic process of doing it? As in, what would probably be a good

    drop ratio (NPA to Cologne drops) to use (I saw S-M gave one, but what is the general rule for it)? Also, I'm

    guessing using any dropper would be fine?

    PS: By sprayer, I'm guessing the best choice would be to get an

    Atomizer of some sort to do the mixing in? Are there any particulars for the atomizer that I should think about

    before buying or recommendations?

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    How to use NPA:

    My

    solution.. take bottle (that was unreturnable) and dump in down the sink... that's how much it screws ME up.



    HM

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    Now now now HM, one man's trash

    is another man's treasure. NPA is one of the most successful -Mone products out there, and for good reason, it

    delivers. You might say "not for everyone" and that is true, but its also true for any pheromone product.

    NPA

    was not good for me either, but I won't condemn it for others, they might find it the best product for their

    personal chemistry and usage goals. With your experience you should know this, but I understand your

    sentiments.

    Bluefire, it really does not matter how you apply the product, the point is to get it delivered to

    your "target" as consistently and as controlled as possible. NPA is just so strong that you don't want to wear too

    much, and pre-mixing with cologne helps.

    Do a forum search for Gegogi and NPA and you'll find good tips for

    mixing. He's the go to guy for this.


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    I had no luck with NPA either,

    even TE gave me strong OD effects with small doses. A7 has become a serious staple in my normal use because it is

    very effective and gets me lots of good hits. But some people swear by it, Gegogi that ID mentions seems to be able

    to swim in the stuff and never ODs. Instead he gets wild hits. Poor guy!
    To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.

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    So, my plan is to buy a

    Sephora atomizer, some glass droppers, and try to get a ratio of 1 NPA to 5 drops of cologne.

    My cologne top

    doesn't come off, so I read somewhere that one spray of cologne is the equivalent to 5 drops (could someone tell me

    if that is right?).

    Also, this is the sephora atomizer I will be getting.

    Link:

    http://www.sephora.com/browse/produc...r /> =1139799

    Has anyone used this one, and do you know if the opening is big enough to just directly spray my

    cologne into the top (without using the funnel)?

    PS: To admin, if the link isn't allowed please delete it. I

    read the rules, and don't think this is breaking them, but if I'm wrong, sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluefire0089 View Post



    PS: To admin, if the link isn't allowed please delete it. I read the rules, and don't think this is breaking

    them, but if I'm wrong, sorry.
    We don't have a problem with links under these conditions:
    It isn't

    something you are trying to sell.
    It isn't to a competitive site
    It isn't spam
    We like you or can't think of a

    damn reason to delete it.

    Otherwise we are completely arbitrary about it and just delete them to annoy

    people. But that is mostly IDesign. He's evil.
    To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by belgareth View Post
    Otherwise we are completely arbitrary about it and just delete them to annoy people.

    But that is mostly IDesign. He's evil.



    Lucky for

    bluefire I'm in a good mood today.


    j/k bluefire, and you can pretty much ignore Belgareth, he's a

    troublemaker, always has been. Let me know if he bothers you, I'll spike his Wheaties.



    Yes, the non-removable cologne top is a problem. I think I remember Terry posting something about

    spray/drop equivalents, but I think the number you just mentioned is a little off. It would all depend on the

    sprayer too, some produce more volume than others.

    You could just spray a bunch of cologne into some sort of

    container and use your dropper to measure it into the atomizer. It would be a pretty tedious process but worth

    it.

    OTOH, I'm the kind of person who would get a handful of tools and pry the top off. The right sized flat

    screwdriver and a pair of needlenose pliers would do the trick I think.
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    Second Edit:

    So, after

    thinking about this, I'm thinking a better choice for me (and probably should have thought about this before paying

    for NPA) would be to get the Edge.

    I read it's basically the same thing as NPA, just that you don't have to

    premix it.

    How many sprays should one use of The Edge for someone like me? Also, how many sprays are typically

    in one bottle? I intend on buying the unscented version so I can use my own cologne with it.
    Last edited by Bluefire0089; 08-13-2010 at 07:48 PM.

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    I'm pretty much the same as you,

    just not asain.I have almost every phero from LS.I have Edge Unscented and for some reason, I still can't figure it

    out.One spray, two sprays, one dab, two dabs.I'm in the same boat, what is good for us?
    Pete

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    Crash, I think your

    thinking of another user on this board.

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    Yes, I got confused.We are about

    the same age though.
    Pete

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluefire0089 View Post
    How

    many sprays should one use of The Edge for someone like me? Also, how many sprays are typically in one bottle? I

    intend on buying the unscented version so I can use my own cologne with it.
    As good as NPA is for a lot

    of users, The Edge really should be the Mone of choice for newbies.

    My first consistently successful mix was

    TE/SoE. That brings up another issue: IMHO I don't think a straight -None application does much good for most

    users. This is entirely anecdotal, and I will admit its just my opinion. But I've read too many posts relating

    that some -None product or another did not work for this or that person or situation.

    Against that there are

    countless posts relating the success of -None/Nol mixes. I'd bet that if you asked 100 experienced users they

    would respond that some mix containing -None plus a -Nol buffer is their favorite. You could add -Rone as another

    ingredient that works wonders for tweaking that -None sex-in-your-face-I'm aggressive vibe. A7 works on that angle

    very successfully for me.

    Of course it all has to do with individual body chemistry and personality, but my

    theory is that if you replicate the normal human pheromone signature the better results you'll have. Nobody

    produces straight -None with no buffering hormone.

    We spend too much time thinking about what product will get

    the best reactions, rather than figuring out what complements and amplifies our natural signatures. It takes time,

    and experimentation, and self evaluation.

    Sorry bluefire, I got carried away. One spray of TE to start, for at

    least the first 5 tries, then work up from there. Add 10-12 inches or half a gel pack of SoE and you're even

    better.


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