If it works it may be worth the
price.Hopefully there will be a discount code in the next newsletter.
Oh i agree with you in the case that the Oxytocin may
endure for over an hour it can be of great benefit when used with skill, especially in business and interview
situations, however i certainly would not be wanting to have to repeat spray with Androstenone every couple of hours
so as to keep up the trust factor, as it is Androstenone only has a very limited if not any effectiveness when used
on targets that are taking the birth control pill.
The discount codes certainly come in handy therefore it is
good to practice restraint and wait for one as they come more frequently whenever sales are slow and the economy is
in slump.
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Androstenone only has a very
limited if not any effectiveness when used on targets that are taking the birth control pill.
I never knew
that about none and birth control pills
It is something i have noticed to some degree as well as the
opinion of others, eg i have worn Androstenone when visiting women who are on birth control and where the Pheromone
is having little attraction effects upon them i notice that it has a very real and sometimes strong attraction
effect upon their daughters who are not taking birth control.
Also here are a few Androstenone opinions to kick
around.
Birth control prevents ovulation by tricking the body into believing the female is already
pregnant.
Since the body already thinks its in a state of pregnancy and Androstenone sends a mating type
signal perhaps this is why they do not respond.
Androstenone is not produced by the human body, excreted by
the human body, or
used as a neuro-steroid by the human brain.
Androstenone serves as a mating
pheromone in pigs and elephants and related
mammals, where it is produced in the gonads of those animals
and excreted during
mating season. Androstenone is of enormous concern to the hog industry because
production of even the tiniest amount of Androstenone (known as boar taint) in the
maturing male pig makes
the meat unfit for human consumption. They do use
Androstenone in spray form, however, to induce a sow in
heat to arch her back, which
makes artificial insemination easier. Of course, they spray it in front of the
sow's nose
-- not on themselves!
Androstenone is also a bacterial by-product of the break down of
human pheromones in sweat by skin bacteria over time when the sweat is allowed to sour. This is a main cause of
malodour in old sweat.
Although there have been numerous studies of Androstenone exposure with humans, there
is no research literature that supports the belief that this is a human pheromone, or that supports the claims that
it is a human female sexual attractant. At least one study done in the 1980's showed that Androstenone is a female
repellent! (4)
The available research data strongly suggests that this non-human steroid molecule affects the
trigeminal nerve pathwaysin humans(5) and can be a trigeminal nerve irritant. (6)(7) (The trigeminal nerve evolved
as part of the body's warning system, sensing potentially noxious stimuli.)
There are many anecdotal
reports of OD-type reactions to Androstenone including anxiety, negative emotional reactions, painful muscle spasms,
irritability, anger, and avoidance and rejection from others when exposed to a certain level of the steroid -- in
some cases when exposed to even a small amount of this steroid. These anecdotal reports seem to support the
scientific research emerging in human studies. If you are interested in these anecdotal reports any web search
ofAndrostenone OD (overdose), Androstenone irritability, Androstenone rage, or Androstenone anger will yield many
examples of the same.
Over 70% of women find the odor of Androstenone repulsive except during ovulation.
Ovulating women tend to lose the ability to smell Androstenone, (8) and become less repelled by the substance at
this time.
Many producers of pheromone products who use this steroid make the claim that this is proof that
it is a human female sexual attractant pheromone. However, since the periodic loss of ability to smell a substance
and the periodic loss of repellent activity for a substance does not logically or automatically equate with being
attracted to that substance, and considering the emerging evidence of trigeminal nerve irritation in humans caused
by Androstenone, we do not find this to be a compelling argument, whatsoever, that Androstenone is effective as a
sexual attractant even during ovulation.
We have found no evidence in our beta testing or in the scientific
literature research to suggest that any human-derivedpheromone causes irritability, anger, rage, painful muscle
spasm, avoidance and rejection by others, or any of the other negative effects repeatedly associated with
Androstenone use.
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und Naturwissenschaftlichen Fakultät der Universität Wien.)
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6(4), 1985, 227-236.
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specific anosmia. Boyle JA, Lundström JN, Knecht M, Jones-Gotman M, Schaal B, Hummel T. Montreal Neurological
Institute, McGill University, Montreal, Canada. J Neurobiol. 2006 Nov; 66(13):1501-10.
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Terry, can you give us a link to
that source? Thanks buddy.
Just wondering since
Edge Trust contain oxy and I assume this fasciliates social bonding etc will this product be suitable for bars or
clubs? I always thought mega doses of NPA were needed here. ALso in bars there's not as much talking do to the
loud music.
I'm wondering WHERE this product is intended to be used
Any guesses?
HM
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