showering and mone buildup

[HornyMan]

Most of us

are aware of the dreaded mone buildup (esp with none) and how we much execute our daily scrub to avoid OD

issues.

Just the other day my SO made a comment to me that really hit home. She said, most people shower up

and scrub before they apply mones, but have you considered doing this after??

I was kinda ambivalent to the

whole idea. I mean why would anyone shower after they put on their mones.. it would just be a waste of product

right?

So anyways here I am, always complaining about OD, without nothing to lose but a few sprays of my

favorite products. I decide to entertain the following idea.

Toss on 21 inchs of SOE, 1 spray of

chikara, and 2 sprays of NPA (diluted 1:5 with cologne).

Of course experience tells me it most environments

(unlike bars) I will definitely OD. And as expected I did. I went out to the library, mall etc and the same

old crap, no looks, being invisible is no fun... Also all that cologne cover to mask smells is getting to me.. I

wonder if cologne is making me tune out and drunk to some point.. after all it does contain alcohol.

So

3 hours later I come home, pissed off about the whole experience.. I decide to go out at night instead -- first

have a short nap , then take a cold short shower to wake up.. and then apply a spray or two of

cologne.

At night I get instant hits, feel alert, and don't have all the mone stink to inhale, nor

the huge amounts of cologne to inhale with it. I can focus better. I can be more entertaining. I don't tune out

from any secret ingredients affecting me in NpA. And I have a lot of hits.

So I just conclude I needed

time to let the mone application wear itself tamer and I needed a short nap and shower to wake up so to speak for

the evening.

But it never really occured to me that we do this often (or report mone hits the NEXT day)

without realizing there must be a method to get the hits and all other positives right away.

So I ask you

if you're considering an evening out, have you considered putting your mones on (especially strong hitters like

NPA) in the afternoon, letting them sit in your skin for an hour and a half or so to be fully absorbed, and then

take a short nap , waken and shower and scrub. Then toss 1 or 2 sprays of your favorite cologne and head

out?

The buildup of powerful products would be less, and you would of given them enough time to absorb

first. A nap would give you much needed energy to enjoy your time out and take the lead without tiring. An

essential component of success. After all a tired person with mones on is not going to get very far initiating--

I've already read for good brain health human beings are meant to nap everyday too, not just sleep at night And

a cold shower or luke warm one for a short time would waken you up, and remove a lot of the potency, and stink of

of a heavy none mix applied earlier not to mention the additional fumes of the cologne (eg NPA mixed with cologne).

I agree with the milder mone we don't need such an approach but with the heavy none hitters.. especially

NPA??

Then you go out and wonder.... is showering after mone application (say 2 hrs later- after mones

have settled in) such a bad idea after all especially for those who OD a lot???

Geogogi once mentioned he

showers 2xday . I would figure he meant when he wakes up, and maybe in the evening sometime. Inadvertantly, he is

doing the same thing. He states he is also relaxed and alert and shows no tension. He is a musician and musicians

are usually friendly , relaxed people. Also he has a clean diet and states he is usually alert all the time.

For the rest of us we may need a NAP TO BE ALERT and show no tension come the evenings, especially those with

working commitments .


What are you're thoughts on this whole approach?


P.S. If you're

wondering if you'll be invisible during the daytime at work etc then maybe a lighter mix would work well without

needing too much cover (cologne blocking your nasal passages) or stinking you up (eg too much none especially the

stinky products) or causing tension (usually from too much none) in the workplace.. There are many to choose from

like SOE, CHikara etc. I myself like to workout first thing in the morning to get it out of the way and also to

increase my natural mone output. Its the perfect complement to a light mone mix in the morning since my none

signature will be enhanced anyways from the workout.


HM

[Doggy Style]

I haven't tried applying

mones and then showering, but I definitely noticed that, after experimenting with different mones for the last

couple of weeks, even though I would shower twice a day and scrub with this exfoliating scrubby thing, by the end of

this last weekend I had mone build up. I haven't worn any since Saturday night.

I was wondering if anybody here

had any experience bathing with vinegar? I don't know if it's kosher to post a link to another forum here (not

another pheromone forum, but one related to seduction/pick-up artists). There's a great thread about the benefits

of bathing with vinegar and *NOT* using soap.

The basic idea is that soaps are more basic/alkaline than your

body's naturally more acid PH, and throws off your skin's whole "eco-system," so to speak. Whereas, since vinegar

is acidic, it doesn't screw up that balance so much, but still kills off all the nasties. I've tried it in the

past, and sure enough, after a couple of weeks, your body adjusts to the new routine. It gets rid of all the B.O.,

and the vinegary smell just evaporates after a few minutes as long as you scrub yourself OK.

It makes me wonder

how bathing in vinegar instead of soap would affect mone building, as well as one's own mones. I don't know why

mones are so hard to get off with just soap, etc. I don't know the chemistry behind that. Would vinegar (or even

alcohol) be any better or worse of a way to get it off? Also, it may be that using just vinegar would preserve more

of your own natural pheromones(?) (Or maybe less?) This could be good or bad. You might have a stronger pheromone

signature that would actually be your *own* pheromone signature, but then you might have to re-experiment with

products and mixes. The balances of mones that worked before might not work with your new (natural) pheromone

signature.

Thoughts?

[Doggy Style]

Oh, I forgot to mention,

the vinegar thing is also a bit of a money saver. You just buy a big jug of regular distilled vinegar, then dilute

it with water in a big spray bottle (I got one from the gardening section in Wal-Mart). Spray it all over yourself

and scrub, then rinse off really well in the shower. It'll last a long time, you'll end up spending like $10 over

the course of a year instead of whatever you would have spent on soap. Not an enormous savings for most people, but

when you're a student living in relative poverty every little bit counts, lol.

[ontimenow]

What about the vinegar smell

does it wash off completely? I always clean my application points with peroxide and alcohol.

[Russx]

Interesting research...

The

more you wash with normal soap, the more you change your natural skin ph to be more alkaline than it is supposed to

be. This could explain why sometimes pheros dont work, yet other times they do. People are scrubbing up too much for

the fear of OD'ing perhaps?

Also as you get older your natural skin ph becomes less alkaline. Another factor to

consider?

More research would be good in this area to discover at what skin ph is best for pheros to work

effectively.

[Doggy Style]

Yeah, if you scrub well and

rinse well, the vinegar washes right off. You might smell like vinegar for a minute or two, but it just evaporates.

I know it sounds weird, but I've done it in the past, and just started up again since yesterday, and it really

doesn't smell as long as you wash and rinse well.

How does the peroxide and alcohol work?