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    Question HELP! What to Buy - A7 Pi C7 SoE TE others...

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    I need some opinions from experts: you!
    I will make a stock, I buy the best products and more

    powerful.
    I am a young(25) charismatic person, like products that make me be more attractive and that women want

    something to me (dating, sex). I have used three bottles of APC and got good results in high dosages. Women wanted

    to be near me, initiated conversations or asking for others to submit myself to them.

    I'm in doubt on what to

    buy, I'm thinking of two options (same value):

    3 x Alpha-7 Unscented
    1 x Pheromones Scent of Eros for Men
    1

    x Edge gel packs for men - 7 packets
    1 x Pheromones Chikara gel for men - 10 packets

    OR

    3 x Alpha-7

    Unscented
    1 x Chikara Pheromones - Pheromone Cologne for men
    1 x SOE gel packs for men - 10

    packets

    -X-

    Questions:
    A7 is better than PI? Is there a difference on the effect or duration of Scent and

    Unscent?
    Chikara actually work? How long does the odor or effect?
    What are the best mix for me? A7/SoE or

    A7/C7?
    The Edge is better than PI or A7 to attract women?
    Is it better to buy 4 A7 or PI?

    Help me, give

    opinions of what to buy and what mix to use. Thanks!

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    To be able to answer, we need to

    know some things, like your age, build, personality, age of the women you're looking at, what results are you

    looking for (ONS or LTR??) and so forth.

    Also, ~mones are somewhat "personal" and you need to experiment. For

    example Chikara didn't do anything for me,but A-7 works well.
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    I have 25 years. I am a calm and

    charismatic in a good relationship with everyone. I can easily make friends and meet people easily. The problem is

    that women prefer the "bad guys" and I'm only as a friend. I like younger women, 20 years. Currently I am in a

    relationship, yet I am looking for ONS and LTR.

    When I used APC, like when men respected me.

    For LTR, what

    would be most suitable?
    And for ONS?

    Thanks

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    If you have not tried the products

    before to know what works best for you, I would buy less of the A7 (a bottle will last a relatively long time) and

    buy larger quantities of the gel packs. It could take more than just 7 to 10 packs to really test out a product.



    I have not had enough experience with PI and A7 to say which would be the better between the two. PI may give you

    more of the "bad boy/jerk" vibe than A7. A7 may be better at creating a "dominate male" vibe but not a "bad boy."



    Remember a big part of the effect is how you act and/or present yourself.

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    Thanks for your

    opinion.
    What *mones should take to best effect?

    I would like to know more about the A1

    (Androstadienone). From what I read, has a great effect on women with PMS, making them calmer and happier.
    Anyone

    ever used? Which product has the substance? What would be the dosage?

    Thanks.
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    A1 good for what you mentioned,

    but also good for mixes where you want to refine the sexual vibe into a more comfortable and trusting feel. The

    only reliable source is the reagent grade A1 in the

    "kits/su

    pplies"
    section of the L-S Store.

    I agree with Jim, the answers to most of your questions can only be found

    by personal experimentation. Individual results can vary widely.

    Rbt has a good point. One bottle of A7 is

    enough to get a feel for it, and budget the rest for several different products. His point about needing more gel

    packets is a good one.

    Personally, I don't care much for the gels and prefer the bottled versions. Therefore, I

    would get 1 each of A7, TE, SoE, C7 and A1. Those 5 will keep you busy for many months to come, and cover all of

    the major bases of pheromone use.

    Welcome to the forum and keep us posted.


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    I would like to thank everyone

    for the opinions, thought of them and made my purchase:

    2 x Alpha-7 Unscented
    1 x Androstadienone
    1 x NPA mens

    pheromones
    1 x Pheromones Scent of Eros for Men

    I bought two A7, androstenone that really works for me. The rest

    is for testing.

    What is the dosage of the A1? What effects reported? (I tried searching the forum, but I can not

    look for small words, making it difficult to find something related)

    Thanks!

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    I've heard of 1-4 drops, with

    somewhere in the middle being typical. I use 1-2 drops when I mix it.

    Use Androstedienone for your search. Lots

    of good info.


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    You may need to experiment with A-1

    a lot as well. Some men find it also puts them in a "calmer" mood, too calm. The term "depressed" has been used, but

    perhaps a better term would be "suppressed."

    Some have suggested that you apply A-1 to the back of your neck to

    keep it away from your nose until you see if it affects you (known as "self-affects". Alternate English word is

    "effects" so it could be spelled either way but essentially means the same thing).

    I think it is a good thing to

    use around women at any time they may feel stressed, not just PMS time. I have used A-1 to what I felt were good

    effect at a couple of wakes/funerals. Got some good snuggling.

    Also, in my opinion what you want to use for ONS

    may be a bit different than LTR. High -none products seem to be better in a ONS situation for example, but the more

    calming "social" pheromones may be the better choice (along with *some* -none) to build a LTR. And different women

    will respond to different combinations in different ways. You *can* generalize to a degree, but if you have a

    specific target in mind you may also have to fine tune your applications, and pay attention to the day of the month.

    Depends on how much work you want to do.
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    There is some material explaining

    how to mix and how to use them? I'm in no doubt about dosages or quantities.
    1 - Can I mix oil mones with

    ethanol mones?
    2 - How to cover Mones-based ethanol or oil?
    I read that to cover the oil-based, would be to use

    the right cologne and after drying apply * Mones. The process is right?
    Mix oil with ethanol will evaporate

    quickly and lose the effect? There is some loss in the process?
    A1 is oil or ethanol?
    Thanks

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    A lot of your questions can be

    found right here on the forum, and I can see that you've started. A good amount of reading is necessary if

    you want to start out with lots of information. In addition, a lot of what you read is personal preference, there

    are not too many hard "rules" to follow.

    As for mixing, most users (I think) "layer" the products and cover

    scents, and don't actually mix them before applying. There is some debate about carriers and such, but I don't

    worry about it. Just get used to what the products can do, on their own. You'll find your own way of applying,

    covering etc.

    The best guidelines are "less is more", learn how each product works on its own and cover

    appropriately.


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    Quote Originally Posted by m0ta View Post
    I have 25

    years. I am a calm and charismatic in a good relationship with everyone. I can easily make friends and meet people

    easily. The problem is that women prefer the "bad guys" and I'm only as a friend. I like younger women, 20 years.

    Currently I am in a relationship, yet I am looking for ONS and LTR.

    When I used APC, like when men respected

    me.

    For LTR, what would be most suitable?
    And for ONS?

    Thanks
    Dude long term

    relationships usually start because there is sexual/romantic attraction so usually the same mones will work in

    getting a girl interested in you regardless of what you want. The biggest thing women say when they are looking for

    a relationship is there is no chemistry with the guys they meet. They don't say, he's not friendly enough. If

    they see you as the friend type, you definitely need some none and also loosen up around women, crack jokes like you

    do around your guy friends and tease the women a little, don't kiss ass. You can be nice to a degree but balance

    it out with busting their chops a little too.

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    how long do the mones in

    packets last after opening them and sealing them after use? ---for SOE, AE, TE, Perception, etc?---
    (like for SOE i

    can use one pack in about 2-3 days. and i know AE youre supposed to only use a few dabs at a time.)

    thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by phreeman View Post
    how long do

    the mones in packets last after opening them and sealing them after use? ---for SOE, AE, TE, Perception,

    etc?---
    If you fold over the top of a gel packet & put a paper clip on, it can last for several weeks as

    it is virtually airtight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phreeman View Post
    how

    long do the mones in packets last after opening them and sealing them after use? ---for SOE, AE, TE, Perception,

    etc?---
    (like for SOE i can use one pack in about 2-3 days. and i know AE youre supposed to only use a few dabs at

    a time.)

    thanks
    I have used packets weeks after opening and it has worked like on the first day. I

    have always used a paper clip or adhesive

    tape.

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