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    Default New to Mones - New to the Site

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    Greetings -

    first off thanks to

    everyone who has put so much effort into this board. It's makes things much easier for the uninitiated trying to

    get started.



    I came across an article on Chikara and decided

    to do some further investigation which brought me to this site. Briefly about me - I'm late 40's but look 8 years

    younger. Tall, athletic, good looking, professional with my own company. I'm the type of person that might get

    noticed but not in an intimidating way. My guy friends have more than once described me as "alpha". Most women would

    describe my personality as a Rogue/Gentleman. I generally have little problems approaching women or holding a

    conversation or for that matter finding women to sleep with. I can be charming, witty but I will not hesitate to

    call a woman out if she tries to test me or play games. If she's someone I'm interested in I can usually get her

    #. I'm occasionally at clubs, bars but more often than not my interaction with new women occur at private functions

    (held at clubs, galleries, museums, people's homes) and restaurants. The women I date are between 25-40 and are

    mostly white but occasionally latin and asian as well.


    So why am I here?

    Because I am a student of the human condition, and I realize there are often forces at work behind attraction that

    we cannot quite discern. There are some guys that have just that extra charisma that makes a woman circle back or

    pursue them where I find I might have to put in more effort or sit back, chill and wait until our paths cross next

    time. Now there are a lot of different variables that go into that equation: looks, social status, social

    validation, charisma, etc. but there are some guys can just naturally start with less and get more. And I salute

    them. The studies and experiences posted on this site convinced me to give mones a shot. Perhaps it will give me an

    extra edge as well.


    I bought the packets of SOE, Chikara and The Edge. (I

    believe these are all scented.) I intend to try the three separately to see how they work. I rarely, if ever, wear

    cologne beside scented roll on deodorent. My understanding is SOE generally has the effect of making a woman more

    relaxed/open. The Edge seems like it's more of a high stakes roll in that some women will be attracted to a Super

    Alpha male. It's the one to include to make a woman think "sex". Chikara, with its three 3+ mones, is somewhere in

    between. Is that about right? My thinking is that after trying all three individually, the first combo's I will try

    with be SOE + The Edge, and Chikara +TE. Question - what is the difference between A7 and TE? Which one is better if

    one wants to pump up the super alpha perception and any thoughts on the better combo with SOE or

    Chikara.


    Another question I have: I see recommendations that people wear mones

    on a regular/semi regular basis. Is that a requirement for mones to be more effective or just a way of getting

    greater exposure to see what works? For my part, I'm really more interested in using these for special events

    (parties, dates, etc.) If I only use it once a week on an as needed basis, am I denying myself some type of

    cummulative benefit? My guess is "no" but I thought to check here first.


    So

    that's it for now. Thank you in advance for any feedback/thoughts. I'll keep you posted on my

    travels.


    Best - Boom

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    Welcome to the forum Boom

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    guess the first thing you'll have to figure out is how much -None you can wear. Natural -None production decreases

    with age but not in every case. I'm 52 and can't wear much -None, while others can bathe in it with no ill

    effects. My guess is that you probably still produce a fair amount, so take it very easy with TE.

    My first

    favorite mix was SoE/TE, and got great results. Get used to SoE on its own then add very small amounts of TE say,

    1/4 gel pack. I've not much experience with the gels but the rule is "less is more" when it comes to

    pheromones.

    Occaisional use is fine, in fact daily users need to watch out for buildup and residual

    effects.

    Mixing scented -Mones might be problematic, and, IMO, still need some kind of cover scent as a rule

    since the -Mone scent outlasts the other. In the future I'd suggest unscented and a good cologne/edt. There are

    very good, and sophisticated, scents out there. With a little study you'll have no problem finding something that

    sets you apart and not smell yourself on ever man you pass by.

    The difference between A7 and TE is that A7 has

    the addition of Androsterone, the "respect" -Mone. My current favorite mix is A7/SoE/A1, and I find it to work well

    in many different settings, with little tweaks depending on the situation. In a light application I'll substitute

    Chikara (C7) for SoE sometimes.

    There is a dichotomy between what could be thought of as opposite ends of the

    pheromone spectrum. At one end there are the "friendly, social" -Mones like SoE and Chikara. They elicit chatty

    responses and present you as an open and friendly guy. All good, but not all that sexual unless you know how to

    play those cards well. At the other end there is -None. Think sex. But that can backfire on its own, and cause OD

    if not used intelligently. Aggressive responses from other men, lone wolf syndrome which can scare some women off

    etc etc. Hence the blends and mixes. Right in the middle is your perfect mix, which can only be found on your own

    by experimenting.

    I think you have a good plan and strategy. Keep us posted!


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    i havent seen A1 as a

    product?

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    thanks! ....and that message

    was too short to post so thanks again!

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    Default 1st Field Report

    So here is my “field report” for the first time using mones.

    I’ll begin with a summary: it was a good night but it might have turned out that way anyway.

    There were a couple of anomalous “hits” last night that might have been related to mones but more

    testing is required.


    Getting Ready: Was meeting a guy friend

    for drinks last night. We planned on just kicking around town with no real pre-set agenda. After showering, getting

    dressed, I decided to try Chikara for my first experience. I opened the individual package and thought that it

    smelled quite benign. I applied about 2/3rds of the pack mostly to the sides of my neck, but also smaller amounts to

    the inside of the wrists, chest and behind the ears. I also applied a small small amount of cologne but even that

    seemed to conflict the Chikara so I mostly washed that off. Initially, I noticed the smell of alcohol used in

    Chikara but that wore off in a 5 minutes and it was only then I noticed the full scent of the mones. I felt like I

    might have over concentrated it a bit too much on the side of my neck.


    Lesson #1 I learned as a 1st timer is: Apply only half as much as you will think you will need and wait

    5 minutes. Let the scent settle in and then decide “if” and "where" to apply more. Only after the final

    application is made, and you have a sense of how strong the mones will present should you decide about how/where to

    apply cologne.


    Out in the field: I made a point to position

    myself close to women such that I would be situated for a few minutes with them in the effective range of 5 ft or

    less. Over the course of the evening, I noticed several times women would walk by, almost stop for a second, look

    over, catch themselves and then keep moving. It could have been that I was dressed a bit more nicely than other guys

    at the bar but I don’t recall “heads reflexively turning” quite like that before.




    Question: Have others experienced this b4? Hard to see how mones could have effected

    them given they came in and out of effective range very quickly.


    Interaction with other Guys: There was definitely a friendly/openness vibe running through the evening.

    I had two guys ask me for my business card and no they weren’t hitting on me. One had been standing a few feet

    away, turned around, and said he seemed to recall meeting before. We struck up a conversation with him and his

    friends, and they invited us to the next bar with a party to follow. They seemed like a good crew and had women in

    tow so we joined them.


    At the next bar, there were more friends and

    the group doubled in size. I spoke with a couple of girls in the group. They were friendly but nothing that could be

    construed as “hits”. They were pretty hammered so may not have been the best test case. A guy I’ve

    met a number of times before was part of the group. I'd call him an acquaintance as we’ve never really spoken

    more than 1 minute at a time. This guys is mega wealthy, comes from a well known family and has a well earned rep as

    a lady’s man. He was there with his new fiancée. At some point he and I struck up a conversation and I

    would say he was much more effusive than in any time of the past. He was asking questions about history, telling me

    about books he had read asked for my card said he wanted to invite me to a party they are having, etc. Could that

    have been the “opening” effect of Chikara? Very possibly but hard to say for sure.




    Circled round back to a bar we had been at earlier in the evening. I found a spot

    right between two groups of women and held my ground. I caught a woman to my left saying to her friend

    “I’m trying not to let him know that I’m looking at him..”. Was going to strike up a

    conversation but then got pulled into a conversation with the women to my right. I had been introduced to one of the

    women earlier in the night and when I returned she seemed to know a fair amount about me and was working equally

    hard to impress. Mones? Not sure, as she was kind of a whack job. Cute, IVY League doctorate but a whack job

    nevertheless.


    Looking back on the night, the one thing I will try

    differently is to put Mones on the back of my neck. In a bar/party situation, you can find yourself positioned such

    that the target is behind you for periods of time. This way she’d still be in the effective range even when

    not facing her.


    Have a couple of other events coming up. Will give

    Chikara a couple more runs before trying out the SOE.


    Boom

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boom View Post

    Lesson #1 I learned as a 1st timer is: Apply only half

    as much as you will think you will need and wait 5 minutes. Let the scent settle in and then decide “if”

    and "where" to apply more. Only after the final application is made, and you have a sense of how strong the mones

    will present should you decide about how/where to apply cologne.


    Boom
    I would disagree with this. Self evaluation of the scent of pheromones

    on oneself is not necessarily an indicator of correct dosage. If that were the case I would wear much less than I

    do. What YOU smell is not the same as what others smell. That's one of the reasons for experimentation and

    following the advice of other users. Also, there is wisdom in generally applying to pulse points, hands and arms

    (for dispersion) and to "strategic" locations where your target is sure to get a whiff at the appropriate time.

    I

    DO agree with your assessment of of cover scent application. I used to go through my whole application process over

    about a half hour or more, now I know pretty much what it takes to apply the right amounts, where to apply and how

    much to cover. Again, experimentation and paying very close attention to the reactions of others.

    Nice job on

    the evening Boom and good report, looks like a good first outing. Keep us posted.


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