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    Quote Originally Posted by chicago View Post
    RBT: anything

    that calms a women is a bad idea. its better to have them excited.


    Gotta disagree with ya there

    bud. I would rather have a calm enlightening conversation and slowly build up that sexual tension if I think she is

    worthy of that effort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tounge View Post
    Gotta

    disagree with ya there bud. I would rather have a calm enlightening conversation and slowly build up that sexual

    tension
    if I think she is worthy of that effort
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    Very

    intelligent strategy Tounge, well

    spoken.





    But for those that are in a frantic hurry because of desperation/ fear of

    losing a sure stab then i would supose excitement is a less wise option.
    I AM. Out of my mind .... .... ....

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    Weighing in on this thread mixed

    with another current thread where it was stated (roughly) that women can "see" a man's character.

    Its my

    experiential guesstimation that men and women each see nothing of importance in the first few meetings. I've

    observed that the only matters that exist on a first meeting are either chemistry (which in itself is pretty

    shallow) or raw lust. Neither of these is any basis for serious relations so you have to examine your

    motives.

    If your motive is sex at any cost, then nothing else really matters, and I suppose a woman who is pumped

    up, manipulated and willing is a viable goal in that context. You'll wear whatever you can get away with and will

    end up usually with a high -None mix just short of OD, perhaps tempered with something social like SoE or C7 if you

    like to talk.

    If your motive is longer term relationship building then you have a little more thought and effort

    to put into the process. In this context pheromone usage becomes more of an art form of blending, tweaking and

    applying to match what you already know about yourself. In this context, pheromones become more of an extension of

    yourself rather than a projection of who you'd like to be.


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    Quote Originally Posted by idesign View Post
    Weighing in on this thread mixed with another current thread where it was stated (roughly)

    that women can "see" a man's character.

    Its my experiential guesstimation that men and women each see nothing

    of importance in the first few meetings. I've observed that the only matters that exist on a first meeting are

    either chemistry (which in itself is pretty shallow) or raw lust. Neither of these is any basis for serious

    relations so you have to examine your motives.

    and I suppose a woman who is pumped up, manipulated and willing

    is a viable goal in that context. You'll wear whatever you can get away with and will end up usually with a high

    -None mix just short of OD, perhaps tempered with something social like SoE or C7 if you like to talk.

    If your

    motive is longer term relationship building then you have a little more thought and effort to put into the process.

    In this context pheromone usage becomes more of an art form of blending, tweaking and applying to match what you

    already know about yourself. In this context, pheromones become more of an extension of yourself rather than a

    projection of who you'd like to be.
    If your motive is sex at any cost, then nothing else really

    matters,mmmm Sex at any cost sure is something that i have experienced many

    times in my life and just when i think it will never rise up and take me over ever again it always seems inevitable

    that the thrill of the skin deep once again has taken me to the point of no return.



    I am in a safe harbour at the moment and will put

    all thought of juicy poon and the big boy out of my head and concentrate if i can on the spirit of Christmas and

    giving good gifts ect.
    I AM. Out of my mind .... .... ....

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    Idesign: how do you create raw

    sexual feeling in women ?
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    Last edited by chicago; 04-08-2011 at 04:05 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chicago View Post
    Idesign:

    how do you create raw sexual feeling in women ?

    Its just a reaction to my natural charming self.




    Seriously, I don't try. In my experience, raw sexual feelings are more satisfying in the context of a

    relationship that has developed to some point. Knowing something about each others' likes, dislikes and

    propensities leads to more uninhibited playtime.

    Trust is a huge factor as well. When a woman trusts you she

    is much more likely to go places freely and with less restraint. Once a woman feels secure in your embrace, the

    sky's the limit.

    If you've chosen the right partner, raw sexual times are just one part of a diverse landscape.



    Chicago, I'm not knocking your, or anyone's, motives and methods. When I was playing the game there were

    no PUA gurus or synthetic pheromones, we just went out and did our best. You guys have all these tools and you're

    playing them like an inside straight with a marked deck.

    What I learned was that, for me, hooking up with

    someone was always better in the end if a certain process was observed. If you like each other for reasons other

    than physical attraction, the sexual tension increases, as tounge stated.


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    I have used TUTH several times and as yet i cant see any advantage for me to

    pursue an interest in the product.


    TUTH may by virtue

    of its low androstenone pheromone content per spray be suitable for young men or those who prefere a minimum

    application amount of androstenone.


    After having

    read one of "hornyman's" posts i felt inspired to go and give TE gel a run with some SOE for awhile and i was

    awakened to just how effective these gels work for me with the use of either 1/4 or 1/3 packet per application.



    I think as far as value for money is concerned i

    will give the TUTH a miss and go for the TE gels and also Primal Instinct, Alpha 7, and

    NPA.


    There are times when i can use a good blast of

    Androstenone to advantage and have it work with me, but for just a standard everyday application then around the

    8-15 mcg mark can pick up positives from each end of the spectrum, and if im feeling in a

    social/listening/empathetic mood then a few rolls of SOE added is the order of the day.
    I AM. Out of my mind .... .... ....

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    Default Edge Gel Packets

    The Edge Packets

    are truly amazing when they hit.

    I have always gotten better results from the packets than the

    spray.

    I also notice an increase in sex drive. Perhaps because it absorbs better when massaged in?

    I

    don't know but its definitely a key player.

    Lately I'm been cleaning up my diet, and noticing better

    results with EDGE/SOE combo. I don't "tune out" as much.

    I am finding increasing my consumptions of salads

    and vegetables, and reducing overal caloric intake is helping me keep my mental focus so I can best make use of

    these mones.


    As for TUTH It definitely did something major to ME. I don't think it did much to my

    targets. But with 1 spray it wasn't long till my voice got deeper, and my confidence soared. On the other hand the

    magic only last 1.5 hrs or so at max. I then tried another spray thinking I would do better but I od'ed.

    I

    will try to use tuth once again as I have a whole bottle of the stuff still remaining. I want to see if I get the

    same effects again.

    it could also be the smell. For some reason I love it and it puts me into a trance of

    some sort.

    Strange but true
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