And oh, if anyone finds a different
version (ie a green label or whatever version), let me know where you found it. I actually liked the green stripe
version of the bar soap which of course was the first one they stopped carrying...
FYI
Basic product info:
Went shopping today so sought out a bottle of this stuff.
"Dial for men, Magnetic Attraction Enhancing body
wash. Pheromone infused."
16oz/473ml bottle. Black plastic w/pop open top, red label.
Ingredient
list:
"Water, sodium laureth sulfate, cocamidopropyl betaine, PEG-8, fragrance, sodium chloride, androstedienone
(pheromone), glycerin, PPG-2 hydroxyethyl coc/isostearamide, cocamidopropyl PG-dimonium chloride, polyquaternium-10,
polyquaternium-7, DMDM hydantoin, citric acid, tetrasodium EDTA, red 40, red 33, blue 1"
1-800-258-DIAL
(website witheld)
purchased 10/11/09 @ Osco (Albertson's)
Reg price listed as $5.99
Sale
price $3.49
Only one version available on shelf. (I remember there being a green stripe version of the bar soap
at one time).
Scent reminds me of another dial for men bar soap (which I think also was marked with a red stripe
on package) , which reminded me of scent of AE.
The interesting thing is that they went with A-1 (which is
becoming my fave choice) and not -nols, -rone, or thank the odd gods of the galaxy, -none. Just like Realm for
men.
May give it a try this week sometime. Please excuse any typos in post. Currently dealing with a vitreal
detachment in one eye (dominant one of course...) and things are fuzzy.
The opposite of love isn't hate.
It's apathy.
And oh, if anyone finds a different
version (ie a green label or whatever version), let me know where you found it. I actually liked the green stripe
version of the bar soap which of course was the first one they stopped carrying...
The opposite of love isn't hate.
It's apathy.
I think I disagree with
Scotties123. Detectable scent should require about the same number of molecules as detectable pheromones. Since,
like the scent, the residual covers the entire body I imagine there is plenty to obtain responses.
To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
Thomas Jefferson
In short, if the scent stays why
wouldn't the pheromones stay.
Doesn't have to be that
way. Scent molecules and pheromones have different molecular structures. Whatever makes the Dial body wash smell a
certain way is designed to stick to the skin. However, the androstadienone molecules aren't very sticky (it's
more so with androstenone), so a lot of them will get washed away. Seems like a wasteful use for a pheromone
that's in high demand, and out of stock entirely at the other place.
I doubt they use the same
suppliers. There's a huge difference between the other place and a huge conglomerate like dial. Its altogether
possible that the makers of dial are making it themselves or have commissioned a laboratory to make it specifically
for them.
As for the stickiness, how hard would that be to modify and why would they bother if they couldn't
show that it worked to some degree?
To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
Thomas Jefferson
If scent molecules and
pheromones have different molecular structures then it would mean pheromone products are scented to mask odour and
not to diffuse pheromones as mentioned on the other site.
Androstenone is not "stickier" it's just that if you
don't scrub properly it's OD effects are more pronounced than Androstenol, Androsterone and Androstadienone. If
you look at the molecular formula you'll realise Androstenol is heavier than Androstenone. I wonder who started all
this misinformation about -none. (not referring to you Attractor)
If you've ever applied an
unscented pheromone product you know that it needs nothing to help diffuse the constituent molecules. Added scent
is just a built-in cover.
Considering the tenacity of molecules, keep in mind that pheromones are hormones, and
change as they react with your skin, sometimes even converting. As well, we're adding to what we already produce
naturally, and amplifying it exponentially.
Speaking of nonsense, who
started the nonsense that scents were to difuse the pheromones? They only mask odor. Pheromones difuse well all be
themselves. The scent doesn't matter except it might encourage people to inhale them more if they like the scent.
To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
Thomas Jefferson
I forgot to add... its not a matter of being "more pronounced", its a matter
of being a very different molecule with very different effects. Molecular weight has nothing to do with it.
Common science accepts that scent, and by extension pheromones-since they're processed by the same olfactory
system, are received and processed by molecular shape. Another well researched theory contends that scent is
recognized by vibration. That theory allows for a much more complex and realistic allowance for the huge diversity
in our ability to smell, and react to smells, particularly with reference to synthetic pheromones.
Its amazing
enough to think of this when we smell flowers and essential oils from those flowers. Imagining the ramifications of
molecular vibration causing reactions due to pheromonal stimulus kind of boggles the mind.
All of this is theory,
like all of what we know about synthetic pheromones, but applying common sense to science you can have a lot of
fun, and get a better angle on what we're dealing with.
By Tisha23 "Another reason
neroli was chosen is because they know that people want to use there own scents sometimes. Neroli blends with just
about anything. Foody scents, Musky scents, florals. It dosnt alter the cover scent. Many perfumers use it, not as
part of the scent but because it is so diffusive and can create more sillage (vapor trial) for there perfume
formulas. Sillage is important, it carries the mones around the targets and gently creates that pull to you.
"
I see. In my personal opinion, I don't think she knows what she is talking about. Of
course, I do reserve the right to be wrong. However, mones create their own cloud which likely mixes with any other
scents but I do not believe that the scent does anything to carry the mones.
To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
Thomas Jefferson
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I didn't think they'd release any extra information but it was worth a shot. I agree w/ you Bel, a
distribution of this magnitude would have to be from another lab, maybe their own. Of course putting
.000000000001ncg of A1 in the soap could justify their claims of being "pheromone infused". Only testing will
tell.
I gave the product a shot during my
shower this morning. About the only immediate reaction is that I don't like the "slimey" feel that many body
washes, including this one, seem to leave behind. I guess it's done on the basis that it makes it feel like you
have softer skin, but to me it was uncomfortable and I rinsed a lot longer than usual to try to minimize the feel.
Scent-wise it was okay, pretty much faded down as expected to near nothing by afternoon.
As for pheromone
effects? Who knows... I'd have to test it for a lot longer and in more diverse situations, along with a "control"
product (non-pheromone enhanced).
So far, as far as I'm concerned, it's just a basic body wash product. Only
time will tell. If it tells at all.
Last edited by Rbt; 10-13-2009 at 05:12 PM.
The opposite of love isn't hate.
It's apathy.
To me, in order for the scent to "carry" the
pheromones, the molecules would have to form a bond. I can't speak on the molecular stability of synthetic
pheromones. A study conducted by the EPA called "Polar Organic Compounds In Fragrances Of Consumers" claims the
tested fragrances contained ninety percent of the chemicals listed in the EPA's hazardous waste list. That's a lot
of molecules that could possibly carry or even break down pheromones. Keep in mind I'm not a chemist.
I agree as
well. One thing I will note is the ingredients are listed from largest to smallest. So, there is more A1 than
preservatives but less than the salt content. At least that gives us some information. Though the amount of
stabilizers and preservatives is not a lot, the pheromone content should be enough to be active. I'm not in any way
a chemist but have worked with some organic compounds that required perservative and have something of a feel for
it.
I'd agree about the bond too but am too weak in chemistry to really be certain if it would happen or not.
To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
Thomas Jefferson
this would also seem to
suggest that big companys are taking pheromones seriously. or taking the popularity [concerns of those wanting
'hits' seriously]. i wonder what their pharmacy labs made of the phermones?
One could just apply the
wash to clothing instead of skin and see what happens.
There is a cure for electile dysfuntion!!!!
I'm almost out of my blue
bottle. After a month layoff, I secured a three-week long gig with the same political canvassing group I was with
before.
A couple of the previous campaign's female canvassers are back, and there are a couple of cute
new field managers. Guess it's time to buy another bottle.
I've always had good results
when I mix A-1 with my A-7 and SOE. Ok I've tried the bodywash (red label) I seem to have the same success as with
the above combo. How long are you guys living the bodywash on before you wash it off? Does anybody actually leave
the bodywash on without washing it off just curious. I know the concentration isn't the same as the A-1 sold here.
Thanks.
I've been leaving the
bodywash on. I also take a day or two off to avoid buildup.
I have been rinsing pretty
thouroughly as I don't like the slimey feel the stuff leaves.
I greatly suspect the amount of A1 in the mix is
pretty low anyway.
The opposite of love isn't hate.
It's apathy.
I wash it off, but leave a
little on the inside of both ears.
I started getting buildup
last week. I've been taking 2-3 showers a day between gym/running/socializing. There was a slight funk buildup and
people were acting strange in the social scenes. I'm taking a few days off to counteract the problem.
As it has a pheromone in it, I would
probably treat it like any other pheromone or pheromone product. Which means skipping a day or so now and then at
the least, and maybe even for longer periods of time now and then.
A1 itself I don't think would cause a
"funky" buildup. That could be something else in the product. You might want to use the Dial only once a day max,
and something else at other times if you shower more than once a day.
Given what I've heard about A1 itself I
would think the only danger in an OD buildup may be it's reputed "deperssive" effects on some men.
The opposite of love isn't hate.
It's apathy.
I was using it every day for a
while when I realized that I get a bit of a headache and feeling a bit lethargic. Nevertheless, when I'm wearing
this product and I act happy or outgoing, the world responds better, more chatty and etc. than if I were acting
happy and outgoing without it.
Due to the possible negatives of this, I've been using it only on non-work days
and when I will be around the opposite sex. I think the killer application is when I combine it with IMPI (original
version 2). That really has a sexual suggestiveness to it.
Many years ago I used pure A1 with Alter Ego and
that was a good and my favorite combo, but this one is better. To make sure I have enough of the product on me I
often use it to wash my hair after my normal shampoo. The hair turns out fine and feels clean and there are no
negatives about doing it that way for me.
All da best 2 U!
Dial Magnetic seems to be
getting more popular. I made two trips to Wal-Mart in a span of three days and the counter Dial Magnetic was on went
from being fully stocked to having just a few stragglers left on it.
Even my skeptical brother-in-law
bought one.
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