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    Default JBTrust hit and a new JBX

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    Okay.

    60% LT, 30 APC, 10 NPA. Sprayed this stuff on all day and not a lot happened. Finally I sprayed about eight sprays

    of the stuff and got on the train.

    As I got on this sister (late thirties early forties) looked directly at me

    and couldn't take her eyes off me the whole trip.

    A Caucasian woman sat next to me. She was with her friends who

    sat behind. She was friendly but her friends were no so. No numbers exchanged or anything, just an experiment.



    In the fall I think I'm going to get back into this a bit more. I currently have a full untapped bottle of SOE

    and some NPA mixed with Egyptian musk and a full bottle of APC but no NPA. Smells real good.

    Now would anyone

    like to try the new JBX? I don't have any more PI, so what I want to do is make the most powerful phero mix ever

    but I won't have money for this until about the fall. (But I'll take donations of NPA and PI for this worthy

    cause).

    Those with PI and NPA can test it right now and report back.

    What you'll need:

    1. An LT

    bottle
    or Atomizer that's as good. (It should spray a mist not a line).

    2. Bottle of PI

    3.

    Bottle of NPA

    You know the mix ratio is usually 70/30. (the NPA is always @ 30%).

    These are the

    test I want to try.

    1. One spray with a cover scent.

    2. One spray with four sprays of LT.

    Whose game for

    this? The new JB trust will also be LT @ 70% and NPA @ 30% but right now I really won't to try JBX again. The main

    test is really how JBX does alone. Could be an OD or just right.

    And NO oil base this time. JB1 is oil based

    because of APC. There's too much base in the current JBX and not enough phero or scent without smearing it on

    thick.

    -The Bat

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    Interesting proposed mix.

    I'm considering trying it but it seems like a lot of none w/out other mones to temper it. I could substitute the LT

    for WAGG. I'll need to run to Nordstom to pick up an atomizer though......hmmmmmmm..... just might work.

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    I hope you try it because

    it will be awhile until I'm able to. See how the mix does by itself then with another phero like LT or WAGG. One

    spray and a good cover scent should do the trick is what I'm thinking - Or be a massive OD. But then again we all

    thought JB#1 would be an OD risk but it became one of the most popular mixes here for a long while and started a

    mixing craze so let see if we can do it again. Remember the atomizer must spray a mist like the LT bottle not shoot

    in a straight line. And there's NO oil in this mix like JB#1 (Unless PI has oil in it and I don't know

    it).

    -The Bat
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    Good luck with that mix. It's

    gonna take a big sack to try that out. NPA and PI together seems a bit redundant. And one bottle of LT was a waste

    of 30 bucks for me. Was a worthless as tits on a bull. Was like wearing nail polish remover for about 30 minutes and

    then it was gone. Never noticed a blasted thing from it. NPA usually gets me a reaction. Once in a while I'll bag a

    granny with it. Most often it scares the living shit out of the young lassies. However I love it for the male

    respect factor it brings me. Never have tried PI, don't really think I'll need that much none, particularly when

    the Edge is very good and relatively inexpensive.

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    The TE bottle makes for a

    decent atomizer too.

    -The Bat

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    I had no luck w/ LT either. I

    don't think it would cover the potency of the other two. However, according to the forum wearing PI and NPA worked

    well w/ the WKM#1 mix. 2 drops of PI is my OD limit, but adding 30% NPA couldn't hurt......right? I know for me

    when the none outways the rone and nol I become the "evil devil Hitler zombie psycho weidro" guy. Does it

    need to be in an atomizer or would dabbing be just as effective? Also, would you apply the cover scent directly over

    the mones or close to the area?

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    Never had any luck

    dabbing. Spraying always got results. If think this will be the most potent mix ever. If it works the way I think it

    will, then we have a winner.

    -The Bat

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jambat Prime View Post
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    And there's NO oil in this mix like JB#1 (Unless PI has oil in it and I don't know it).-The Bat
    PI is

    oil based. I don't think it will work well in an atomizer with alcohol based mones. Any suggestions? I have 2

    atomizers ready to load!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peregrine View Post
    PI

    is oil based. I don't think it will work well in an atomizer with alcohol based mones. Any suggestions? I have 2

    atomizers ready to load!!!!
    If APC doesn't cause any problems I'm sure PI will be fine. Load em

    up, I say.

    -Nate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jambat

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    If APC doesn't cause any problems I'm sure PI will be fine. Load em up, I say.



    -Nate
    I have ordered and received 2 bottles of PI ylang ylang from

    L-S this year, and the consistancy of the product causes it to mix well with just about anything you care to mix it

    with.




    I also have some 4 year old PI that is thicker in its consistancy and does

    not mix as well as the latest PI offerings.

    I think

    that the current form of PI mixes easily just as well as

    NPA.

    PI certainly drops out of the bottle much faster

    than the older versions ever did, so there is obviously some good improvements to its mixing capabilities and it

    also works very well as an Androstenone Pheromone is designed to do.
    I AM. Out of my mind .... .... ....

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    Anyone trying

    this?

    -The Bat

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    I'll give it a shot. I was

    mixing 6WAGG:3PI:1NPA w/ 2-3 inches of PCC. I was schooled my a guru that the WAGG was negating the effects of the

    PI and NPA. I'll try the NPA\PI/LT.

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    Remember to spray

    it.

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    Anyone try this?

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    Sorry for the holdup JB.

    I've been working on other mixes. Just loaded a Nordstrom atomizer w/ 70% NPA and 30% PI. Heading to the lake to

    lay out for a bit. Will keep you posted.

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    The mix is backward. It's

    always 30% NPA. So the mix should be 70% PI and 30% NPA. It should take one spray, two at the max or risk

    OD.

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    Sorry JB for the typo. I did

    mix 70 PI to 30 NPA. Just got back to from the lake. Now that schools back in session there were less people out.

    Because of the wind I didn't lay out but swam instead. I noticed the mone smell after getting out of the water.

    Sticky stuff. And it smells potent. Only thing to report was watching a girl constantly picking her bikini outta her

    butt!! I'll test more tomorrow. Oh, I was wearing 1 small spray.

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    Basically the same report

    today. Not much to do so I went back to the lake for some sun and exercise. Went earlier so there were more people.

    The smell really seems to increase in the H2O. The first time I didn't totally submerge but my neck did get wet. I

    was imagining a "sex" oil slick across the beach, attracting all girls to my trail. There were 4 latino's, 3

    male, 1 female (hot), late teen's, in close proximity. On dry land it would have been too far to pick up the scent

    but I believe getting wet may have carried it to them. I swam out a bit, tread water for about 10 minutes, and swam

    underwater to get back to the shallows. Due to years of heavy smoking it wasn't an impressive distance to some but

    was to them. 2 of the boys swam out to see how far they could go. My spanish is horrible but the girl was laughing

    saying it wasn't as far "him". Coulda been a hit. I'll leave it for the jury. This is not a very "cultured" place

    so some races don't mix too well. Ignorance is no excuse and is another reason I hate this area so bad. I'm

    trying to be good to be "vibrant" for the weekend. I'm dedicating 3 days to pure phero testing. 2 test mixes per

    day.

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    Hi,



    New to this forum but not to pheromones. Just thought I'd let you all know I too use an LT (large size)bottle as

    an atomizer.

    Also, as a side note, I add a few drops of mineral oil to my mix then shake it up everytime, right

    before I spray it.

    It seems like the mineral oil lengthens, or evens out the dispersion time of the mixture on

    my skin...Could be all in my head but I do it anyway.

    -LOTW

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    hey guys! im new to this

    forum also and a somewhat experienced phero user aswell! can anyone tell me any postive results from chikara? i just

    got some and was curious! still havnt field tested it yet so dont know what to expect..also just got npa

    ,anyone have advice on a combo of these? thanks!!
    my current arsenal of pheros..
    ammunition,ALPHA-A314,instant honesty,pherone M-11,chikara,npa,score cologne

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    Glad you guys are trying

    it out. No ODs yet?

    -Thr Bat

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    hey guys i see a lot of talk

    about NPA?
    i just got some as part of a deal i had when ordering but i dont know what pheros are in it?anyone

    know?
    is it just NONE?or is there others in it?
    id like to know so when im using other products i can balance them

    out ,so to speak.. thanks!!
    my current arsenal of pheros..
    ammunition,ALPHA-A314,instant honesty,pherone M-11,chikara,npa,score cologne

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    Quote Originally Posted by phantom777 View Post
    hey guys i see a lot of talk about NPA?
    i just got some as part of a deal i had when

    ordering but i dont know what pheros are in it?anyone know?
    is it just NONE?or is there others in it?
    id like to

    know so when im using other products i can balance them out ,so to speak.. thanks!!


    Phantom777, look here for what's in NPA: http://www.pherolibrary.com/referenc...uct-table.html



    Hope this helps,

    -LOTW

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    thanks!! looked at it and it

    dousnt realy tell you much whats in it..unfortunetaly says none and a secret ingrediant LOL. anyone else know?

    thanks
    my current arsenal of pheros..
    ammunition,ALPHA-A314,instant honesty,pherone M-11,chikara,npa,score cologne

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    Some manufacturers of pheromones

    will not disclose their "secret ingredients", leaving us to experiment to figure out our best mix. Its not really a

    big deal since we each have to experiment anyway to find our optimal mix. Even using a chem set of specific -Mones

    requires lots of trial and effort.

    A basic knowledge of the "big three" should suffice to begin experimentation.

    As well, a thorough reading of the vast wealth of reports here should give any thoughtful reader a good grasp of the

    products.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Peregrine View Post
    Coulda been a hit. I'll leave it for the jury.
    Keep trying. What I do notice is

    none of the women are running from you. That's good. LOL.

    -The Bat

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    Sorry JB, I've been busy

    lately. I never could really get a proper measurement from the Nordstrom atomizers w/ the JBX mix. It kept coming

    out in a stream instead of a spray. The amount of wasted product used to prime the sprayer wasn't worth the

    testing. I did OD once, but couldn't tell how many sprays were used..probably 3. The PI seemed to clog the

    atomizer. Oh well, I tried. Hope you have more success w/ it. Hope this helps.

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    That's why I go for the

    LT bottle. It sprays evenly. I was wearing the last of my JB#1 with one of bosses one day. She became so fidgety and

    sweeter than ever. It was so much fun watching her. She the all business type but she was ultra sweet.

    I can't

    say anything special about LT but it's bottle is awesome. I wish they would just sale those. LOL. JBX (Primal J

    this was called at one time I believe) has never had good testing.

    The high end none formula was Rogue Male and

    it didn't work as good as Jambat #1. So the question is will JB#1 remain the champion or will JBX come in and clean

    it's clock. (Although, that NPA and SOE mix might be the killer mix now). Either way, the jury's still

    out.

    I'm streamling. I have a bunch of mixes, some of them I don't even know what they are anymore. I have an

    unopened bottle of APC, some SOE and some Egyptian Musk with NPA in it. That's all I'm keeping. The rest of this

    stuff is getting tossed.

    I'll be buying a bottle of NPA next month and that's probably it for now until money

    is more available.

    -The Bat

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