Field tests, and a question about roommates

[mc2006]

Hey
I just ordered Chikara(unscented)+NPA, and SOE+TE gel-packs. When i get them, i'll

start a daily report about my hits/misses(Just contributing back to the very helpful ppl in the forum )
A little

about me: I'm 31years old, Caucasian, 76KG on 166cm (a bit chubby, but I've been working out in the last year,

so... I'm JUST chubby now ).
I'm not so much of an alpha-male. I tend to be that nice-guy. I sometimes tend to

become the girl's male friend, instead of her lover/BF. (uufff.. but I'm working on it)

So, till my phero's

get here, I'd like to ask a question:
I live with 2 female roommates. One of the roommates is a really nice

looking girl, and a few months ago left her BF of 3 years.
I see her dating with other ppl, and suddenly realize -

she should be dating me! she's good looking, a great personality, and we became pretty close friends (We talk a lot

daily, on Gtalk or at home. We spend a lot of time together - we go to movies, cafes, trips, etc.. with friends, and

sometimes just us).
Thing is - while i really like her, and can see myself with her - i believe she sees only a

friend in me (that nice-guy you'd like to have as a friend, not as a lover).
It's not just me not being manly

enough. I'm an OK guy (alpha-wise speaking), perhaps a bit below the average. Its her, too: she just like

above-the-average-manly guys (I know because she told me - that's whats wrong with her current date. I also know

her ex - he IS manly)
So how do i change that:
a. start acting more manly (OK, working on it)
b. use -none

products (hence the NPA and TE)

And this is my question: since we're roommates, she's bound to feel that

SOMETHING is different. How would she react? I mean, all of a sudden your roomie-friend seems hotter/nicer, out of

the blue, wouldn't she think that's weird?
Moreover - she'll eventually see me in all sorts of phero-states:

when i have none (after shower), when i have a lot (in the morning, when i just applied it), or somewhere in

between.
Wouldn't she notice she's attracted to me 1 day and not at all the other?
Did anyone have such a

situation? (I'm thinking about guys who did not tell their wives/gfs about using pheros. They must have had alot of

pheros at some times, and none at others.)

How did these girls react when noticing the instabilities in your

"smell"?

[idesign]

Welcome to the forum

mc2006.

I'd start with a single product, preferably C7 or SoE, to get the social chatty vibe ramped up. You'll

be better able to mix later if you know how individual products work on their own. Maybe C7 would work better in

your case since it has a little -None.

Then, I'd start VERY slowly edging yourself toward light flirting, as if

you were trying to win over a woman you just met. Its a tough position, and you've already said that she likes

more "manly" men. Give it a shot though, with the -Mones and some behavior changes you might hit paydirt. Take

charge of the situation and don't back down if you get a little rejection. She wants you to be strong enough. If

she gives you a flat "NO" then leave her alone and find someone else.

Did I say start slow? After a

while you can add a dab of your TE to the C7. No need to hit her over the head with your new self.

Good luck!

[Snoopyace]

Great advice! I can tell you

from personal experience that the best way to get her from friend to boyfriend with the help of pheromones is to

absolutely take it more slowly when you change your phero signature.

If you are wearing just Scent of Eros or C7

on Monday and then Tuesday you are wearing 2 sprays of The Edge and NPA she's going to be extremely confused and

very uncomfortable because she isn't used to seeing you in that way. She'll be much more likely to shut

you down even if you haven't changed anything else.

Slow and steady makes a big difference in helping to win

the race. I learned the hard way that it takes a while to get people who already know you used to a new pheromone

signature.

Good luck!

[Peregrine]

Hey


(I'm thinking about guys who did not tell their wives/gfs about using pheros. They must have had alot of pheros

at some times, and none at others.)

How did these girls react when noticing the instabilities in your

"smell"?

Welcome to the forum!! That's a good question as I having been wondering myself. My advice

would be to use extreme caution with your friend. I've lost several great female friends while trying to take it to

the next level. Unfortunately it can lead to an akward situation and end the friendship. This would be more so if

you're roomates. One option is to make her jealous. Don't use the mones around her until you find a good mix. Wear

them away from her until your comfortable and then casually date other women. Search through tgparker's posts as he

explains the "bandwagon effect". I dunno why it works but i swear it's true!! She'll perceive you as a more

desireable male. Ive seen this over the years as the more dates I get the more other women show interest.

Hope this helps.

[mc2006]

I've read about

tgp's "bandwagon effect" - this scheme sound so ridiculous that it has to have some truth in it . I will try

it!

Wear them away from her until your comfortable

Kinda tough, considering

we're roomies. I have to come back home every night.. with the remains of the mones on me, or remains of mones in

the room..well it's tough but do-able.

But actually, why start with C7? we're already

friendly with each other, she's already prone to talk to me (About life's little problems and the likes. I'm a

good conversationalist/listener). Why not just start with NPA/TE? (Of course with the smallest doses at first, than

slowly (SLOWLY, OK! ) increase it till i hit my sweet spot. This means i have to OD sometimes away from her, just

to find my sweet spot).
why starting with C7 is better?

[Snoopyace]

I would say because C7 also

has a little androstenone in it. The extra pheromones will help to add to the bond you have and the bit of -none

will help her to start seeing you as more than just a friend.

Just my two cents. Good luck!

[idesign]

With C7 and SoE its more than

just being chatty, it creates kind of a *compulsion* to be near someone and communicate. The talking is a side

effect of wanting to be engaged with a person. As much as chattiness, a lot of hits I get are women placing

themselves physically closer to me, sometimes a little too close for the situation. Great fun.

[kgk4569]

Personally I go by this motto:

Don't shit where you eat.

Watch closely what you do with this girl, unless you are willing to up the drama

level of where you live.