"Any Recent PRIMAL INSTINCT Action Reports" ?

[terry0400-40]

The 4 yr old PI i have been gifted with is not bad

shit at all.



Actually its better than bad, and that is good.





To be more precise i should say it is a really good kick arse blast of

Androstenone.



Yes Androstenone with attitude, i got some all over my fingers yesterday

when i pulled the stopper out and just wiped it under my neck, as i did not want to be left with stinky

finger.



I probably have some still sticking to my gills from yesterday because i

have awoken with hardwood and a bAAAd attitude written all over my face.


I feel great when i use this 4 yr old PI, this cant be

a placebo effect because i have used it 3 times in the past 2 weeks and was suprised the first time by the kickarse

carefree energised cheeky macho blast that it gave me,


as well as the last few uses

also.



So the BIG question

is.



"Are there any recent PI action

reports.



I dont mean 4 yr old PI from the golden years like that which i have been

gifted with but......



"NEW PRIMAL INSTINCT stock"




Reports please, are there any pherofreaks out there ?

? !!!!!!

[DrSmellThis]

What's the difference? PI is

PI, isn't it?

Asking about PI's effectiveness is like asking if water is wet. It's the old standby for pure

-none, which is one of the big three pheromones you want as a "power user".

Simple and good, but you want to

combine it for max results. It's maybe not as odorless as some sources of -none, but I personally always liked the

odor of PI. It seems warm to me, for -none.

Of course, hit reports are still always very desired. But there is

really nothing much to understand about PI.

[Nick666]

What is the most odorless source

of -none ?

[terry0400-40]

What's the difference? PI is PI, isn't

it?

If PI was consistant then there would have been no point in my

starting discussion on the subject of PI.
Because in

the past i have received PI from the store and have had to return it because it lacked any odour whatsoever and also

evicted no action whatsoever apart from me returning it to Bruce for a replacement of Alpha 7

.

The replacement offer was made ocross the board on

this forum to all whome were not satisfied with the batch of PI.



The 4 yr old PI that i have been using this week is

an excellent Androstenone product in every way and it has a distinctive stink, and it works very very well.



PI is not always PI,



The same may also be said for EOW that has also had

consumers complaining and returning products for the NEW stock that Bruce has now on the

shelves.
And also other distributors

likewise.




Asking about PI's effectiveness is like asking if water is wet. It's the

old standby for pure -none, which is one of the big three pheromones you want as a "power user".

Simple and

good, but you want to combine it for max results. It's maybe not as odorless as some sources of -none, but I

personally always liked the odor of PI. It seems warm to me, for -none.

Of course, hit reports are still always

very desired. But there is really nothing much to understand about

PI.

Therefore with all due respect Genuine is not always Genuine !!

[DrSmellThis]

Bruce will take your word for

it. The rest of us can only take your word for it.

But I have noticed through the years that when consumers have

no results with a pheromone product, they are too fast to conclude for sure that the product is defective.

There

are countless reasons why results vary, and product quality from batch to batch would typically be low on the list

of what is really going on.

This might not be applicable in your case, if you compared smells and results among

batches for a long period of time. But did you know that your ability to smell androstenone is not constant? Even

people who are fortunate enough to be good at being able to smell it will demonstrate a varied ability, based on

whatever their hormones are doing that day, or where their hormones are cycling. Lots of other variables effect

smell too, especially those smells. If hormonal smells didn't vary by circumstance, they wouldn't function to do

what they do. A signnificant point of androstenone's effect is to be smellable as a "stink" during those times when

breeding is less than optimum, and less smellable/more palatable when breeding is more optimum.

Or say, having a

cold can damage smell long after the cold is gone, for example. This is just the tip of the iceberg.

Having said

that, it is a very good practice to provide negative feedback as you have, so Bruce can help us out with his best

quality control. Bruce has always made it a rule to deal with only the most trustworthy manufacturers. But he

certainly has eliminated sheisters from time to time, and sometimes people start off honest but stray. So it's good

you're looking into it.

[terry0400-40]

Bruce will take your word for it. The rest of us can only take your word for it.

But

I have noticed through the years that when consumers have no results with a pheromone product, they are too fast to

conclude for sure that the product is defective.

There are countless reasons why results vary, and product

quality from batch to batch would typically be low on the list of what is really going on.

This might not be

applicable in your case, if you compared smells and results among batches for a long period of time. But did you

know that your ability to smell androstenone is not constant? Even people who are fortunate enough to be good at

being able to smell it will demonstrate a varied ability, based on whatever their hormones are doing that day, or

where their hormones are cycling. Lots of other variables effect smell too, especially those smells. If hormonal

smells didn't vary by circumstance, they wouldn't function to do what they do. The whole point of androstenone's

effect is to be smellable as a "stink" during those times when breeding is less than optimum, and less smellable

when breeding is more optimum.

Or say, having a cold can damage smell long after the cold is gone, for example.

This is just the tip of the iceberg.

Having said that,

it is a very good practice to provide negative

feedback as you have,

so Bruce can help us out with his best quality control. Bruce has always made it a

rule to deal with only the most trustworthy manufacturers. But he certainly has eliminated sheisters from time to

time, and sometimes people start off honest but stray. So it's good you're looking into

it.

All i can reply is by stating that at the time Bruce was offering

returns to anyone who had problems with the mentioned batch of PI.



I simply was one individual who took up the offer

because i was not content with my purchase.

Now the

simple fact of the matter is why would the administrator be offering across the board returns on this public forum,

to be accepting returns on the PI at the time IF there was not a perceived general perception shared in common that

there was a problem with the product in mention

???

This current thread on the subject of PI has

nothing to do with just my sole perception of the PI that was returned at the time, Because i was just one of a

group who noticed the deficiencies in that particular

batch.

"This thread did not start out as a complaint

as can be clearly evidenced."

It is simply a forum

member who is enquiring on the current perceived effectiveness of a product that the poster and others have had an

issue with in the past.

Now just about every

intelligent pheromone user and their dog can understand the characteristics of Androstenone in general and that is

not what the question in thread start was asking.

It

is not new or ground breaking news that the perceptions of an individuals smell may vary from time to

time.

And a person would have to be stupid or half

brain dead to NOT realize that a cold or a nasal infection could reduce a persons ability to perceive the smell of

pheromones or Androstenone or fragrances for that matter.



"NEW PRIMAL INSTINCT stock"


Reports please, are there any pherofreaks out there ?

? !!!!!!

[terry0400-40]

Bruce will take your word for it. The rest of us can only take your word for it.

But

I have noticed through the years that when consumers have no results with a pheromone product, they are too fast to

conclude for sure that the product is defective.

There are countless reasons why results vary, and product

quality from batch to batch would typically be low on the list of what is really going on.

This might not be

applicable in your case, if you compared smells and results among batches for a long period of time. But did you

know that your ability to smell androstenone is not constant? Even people who are fortunate enough to be good at

being able to smell it will demonstrate a varied ability, based on whatever their hormones are doing that day, or

where their hormones are cycling. Lots of other variables effect smell too, especially those smells. If hormonal

smells didn't vary by circumstance, they wouldn't function to do what they do. A signnificant point of

androstenone's effect is to be smellable as a "stink" during those times when breeding is less than optimum, and

less smellable/more palatable when breeding is more optimum.

Or say, having a cold can damage smell long after

the cold is gone, for example. This is just the tip of the iceberg.

Having said that, it is a very good practice

to provide negative feedback as you have, so Bruce can help us out with his best quality control. Bruce has always

made it a rule to deal with only the most trustworthy manufacturers. But he certainly has eliminated sheisters from

time to time, and sometimes people start off honest but stray. So it's good you're looking into

it.

I can understand and empathesise with your post having been away to

think about it and to also look at it from another

perspective.



I certainly hope that i have not appeared too scathing in my previous reply

to your post.

In actual fact i do respect your

opinions and also the great knowledge that you possess as a skilled and learned artisan within your

field.

I also consider as you do that Bruce is

certainly a man of the greatest integrity and certainly strives with all the energy and wisdom that he possesses to

put only the highest quality pheromone products on to the shelves at L-S.



I also commend you for sticking up for him with your

loyalty.

You are a good bloke.

[terry0400-40]

Well thismorning about 8 hours ago i was tempted to

spread another good drop of my 4 yr old PI around my

gills.



I was sorta put off somewhat and was not even going to give it a forum

mention, but now i feel that i really should.





But this shit, yeah my 4 yr old PI , i call it shit because its so dam

bloody good. yes im an Aussie ( from downunder

)



Well i attended another social function wearing my good drop Androstenone,

and i just really have to say that the self effects alone from this vintage PI is just real kickarse out of this

world pick me up and man i am super primed.





Everywhere there were girls/women sittin near me the phero action attraction

responses were coming on strong for hours,
and when

just about any female spoke with me the best attraction responses i have seen with them just looking me in the eyes

and so very friendly talk and sweet alluring smiles it was me every time who was doin the cut and run.





This 4 yr old PI is just about everything i could ever hope to ask for in a

pheromone product.



It blows my recent Alpha 7 experiences out of the

water.



Its a shame that when i was gifted with it from a friend that it only had

just under 1/4 " in the bottle.



Now i hope that those who have read the start of this thread can understand

why i have such a renewed interest in seeking to find out what the dynamics of the current PI could be.





I have used this 4 yr old version around 5 times over the last 3 weeks and i

consider it to be amazing and consistant.





I can remember a post hitting this forum several tears ago and it was titled

" PI is my DADDY "



If the PI sittin on the shelves here at L-S at this moment are anything near

as good as what i have been wearing this week then all i can say is that " There is GOLD at Hotchkiss CO 81419 "

[jumprunner]

The 4 yr old PI i have been gifted with is not bad

shit at all.

Actually its better than bad, and that

is good.

To be more precise i should say it is a

really good kick arse blast of Androstenone.

Yes

Androstenone with attitude, i got some all over my fingers yesterday when i pulled the stopper out and just wiped it

under my neck, as i did not want to be left with stinky

finger.

I probably have some still sticking to my

gills from yesterday because i have awoken with hardwood and a bAAAd attitude written all over my face.


I feel great when i use this 4 yr old PI, this cant be

a placebo effect because i have used it 3 times in the past 2 weeks and was suprised the first time by the kickarse

carefree energised cheeky macho blast that it gave

me,
as well as the last few uses

also.

So the BIG question

is.

"Are there any recent PI action

reports.

I dont mean 4 yr old PI from the golden

years like that which i have been gifted with

but......

"NEW PRIMAL INSTINCT stock"




Reports please, are there any pherofreaks out there ?

? !!!!!!

There is no placebo effect with androstenone in a product. I

recently started using a similar product called "Turn up the Heat", which got me 86ed from a Starbucks.

This

girl who I was chatting with daily there was the problem, I started wearing it around her to see what her reaction

would be. She had a reaction allright.

One time, I was just joking around, stupid joke, I picked up a biscotti

and held it like a spear, and said "open wide" as if I was going to throw it in her mouth...just a stupd joke which

meant nothing.

She saw it another way. Attached something sexual to it, like "open wide" indicated to her I

wanted a BJ, she was offended, went to the manager with it, and I got 86ed. I would never imagine a girl attaching

something sexual to a joke like that, she or anyone else would normally pass it off without even thinking about it.

The strong connotation was obviously because of the phermone, androstenone.

Dangerous stuff, I dont like it

around women. I use A1 with "Instant Openness", seeing what reactions i get off that.

Problem is, I hear that

A1, if left on your skin long enougth, can turn into Androstenone, dont know how long or the specifics of that.

[idesign]

That's too funny. The lesson

learned is that if you play with fire you might get burned on once in a while. But somehow I don't think you can

blame it on the pheromones. And don't buy corporate coffee. Fourbucks doesn't even have good coffee, and

their clients are socially suspect. Who wants to date a laptop? Find a nice pub with a good Scotch selection.

Your average girl there will have a much better grip on reality and be much more likely to get your jokes.

[jumprunner]

That's too funny. The lesson learned is that if you play with fire you might get burned on

once in a while. But somehow I don't think you can blame it on the pheromones. And don't buy corporate coffee.

Fourbucks doesn't even have good coffee, and their clients are socially suspect. Who wants to date a laptop? Find a

nice pub with a good Scotch selection. Your average girl there will have a much better grip on reality and be much

more likely to get your jokes.

No I wouldnt blame it on the phermones, just the fact that I

underestimated the phermones effect on people.

That is pretty much my fault since did explain the product in

correct detail and give warnings, I was just too skeptical about it to believe it.

The phermones plus the

situation, plus the person involved, all contributed to the behavior. If I would have said nothing to her at all

except give me a cup of coffee and thats it, she would have had nothing on me, even if she would have been offended

at my presence due to the phermone.

After all, you cant really get 86ed because of the way you smell!

[terry0400-40]

There is no placebo effect with androstenone in a product. I recently started using a

similar product called "Turn up the Heat", which got me 86ed from a Starbucks.

This girl who I was chatting with

daily there was the problem, I started wearing it around her to see what her reaction would be. She had a reaction

allright.

One time, I was just joking around, stupid joke, I picked up a biscotti and held it like a spear, and

said "open wide" as if I was going to throw it in her mouth...just a stupd joke which meant nothing.

She saw it

another way. Attached something sexual to it, like "open wide" indicated to her I wanted a BJ, she was offended,

went to the manager with it, and I got 86ed. I would never imagine a girl attaching something sexual to a joke like

that, she or anyone else would normally pass it off without even thinking about it. The strong connotation was

obviously because of the phermone, androstenone.

Dangerous stuff, I dont like it around women. I use A1 with

"Instant Openness", seeing what reactions i get off that.

Problem is, I hear that A1, if left on your skin long

enougth, can turn into Androstenone, dont know how long or the specifics of

that.

I wear a really good whack of Androstenone most days, and some

ckicks do get a little rufled from time to time and if they make a smart comment i will usually tell them to go and

get a good bikini line wax.

[jumprunner]

There is no placebo effect with androstenone in a product. I recently started using a

similar product called "Turn up the Heat", which got me 86ed from a Starbucks.

This girl who I was chatting with

daily there was the problem, I started wearing it around her to see what her reaction would be. She had a reaction

allright.

One time, I was just joking around, stupid joke, I picked up a biscotti and held it like a spear, and

said "open wide" as if I was going to throw it in her mouth...just a stupd joke which meant nothing.

She saw it

another way. Attached something sexual to it, like "open wide" indicated to her I wanted a BJ, she was offended,

went to the manager with it, and I got 86ed. I would never imagine a girl attaching something sexual to a joke like

that, she or anyone else would normally pass it off without even thinking about it. The strong connotation was

obviously because of the phermone, androstenone.

Dangerous stuff, I dont like it around women. I use A1 with

"Instant Openness", seeing what reactions i get off that.

Problem is, I hear that A1, if left on your skin long

enougth, can turn into Androstenone, dont know how long or the specifics of that.

As a follow up to

the last line, Ive been putting on a drop of A1, using larger amounts in existing phermone blends, no depression. As

a matter of fact, I think it actually did more to get me in a good mood, just didnt smell too good, not real fanatic

about the odor.

I have to wonder, can women detect A1 from a long ways off? Next door neighbor has been walking

by my place lately, this is the one who told me when I first met her she was in a relationship, but never seen any

guy around there so far. There is usually this fat blonde chick, not good looking, that lives across from her she is

always hanging around...wonder if that was what she meant.

Now, yall are going to say this is probably just

coincidental, she is just walking her dog and just so happens she passes by my place unwittingly.

One time, with

her hair done like she was on her way to a party, even though she was going nowhere. Funny how she decks herself out

and does her hair up nice just to walk her dog around the property.

Another time, damn! She was wearing this

short short kind of dress that looked something like a nightgown, fucking practically blew me out of my socks!!!

Then she stops RIGHT in front of my gates tallking to her friend, was there for about 20 minutes in plain view.



Here's the funny part. I was upstairs in my bedroom looking out the window, thats when I saw her there below my

front gate wearing that short short dress, then she starts walking away and her friend looks up at me in the window,

sees me and quickly looks away and walks away.

Ha ha ha, itll take some time getting her in bed, she's the type

who investigates every nook and cranny before she allows herself to be taken in. Then when all is said and done,

ofcourse she says "I wasnt planning on doing this", then my line is "I know, you were manipulated into the bedroom

and none of this is your fault"....thats the routine. Hope she turns out to be the kind who likes being on top...I

like being under a girl and between her legs.

There is this other blonde bombshell on the other end of the lot I

see now and then, somewhat standoffish with me. BUT, when she sees me with the other chick she's gonna feel 'left

out' and want some of the action.

Now that one....Jm gonna slip my tongue under her panties and go down on..



Got my work cut out for me. With any luck, I wont have to go out clubbing to hook up, jsut stay at home where all

the action is! THATS THE WAY TO GOOOOO~~~

[Gorgar]

Ok Terry,

I'm here to report on my PI experiment on Saturday. I didn't use it straight up, I mixed it into a spray bottle

with Old Spice at about a 6 or 7 to 1 ratio. The bottle is my old LT bottle. I applied 2 sprays to my chest on my

shirt. One spray to each pec.

There was a very wide range of ages there, from snotlings all the way up to the

granny types.

Strike: Attractive woman 50ish an acquaintance. I've been verbally flirting with her for some

time now. Non-stop action from this one on Sat. Hair flipping, glances, presentation of breasts and fanny. Fanny and

boob brushings. Any one of these can be attributed to past history of our little long term flirting game.

Kicker:

I was mixing myself a drink and was was walking back to the festivities, she was coming the other way. She pinned me

to the wall her ample bosom pressed tightly to my abs, her hands on my hips. She deeply inhales my application area,

nostrils flaring she nips my right pectoral muscle with her teeth. Then she presses her finger between my lips. She

had been diddling herself. Then she walked away with a backward glance.

Forgive me for not noting any other

hits.

[terry0400-40]

Ok

Terry, I'm here to report on my PI experiment on Saturday. I didn't use it straight up, I mixed it into a spray

bottle with Old Spice at about a 6 or 7 to 1 ratio. The bottle is my old LT bottle.

I applied 2 sprays to my chest on my

shirt.

One spray to each pec.

There was a very wide range of ages there, from

snotlings all the way up to the granny types.

Strike: Attractive woman 50ish an acquaintance. I've been

verbally flirting with her for some time now. Non-stop action from this one on Sat. Hair flipping, glances,

presentation of breasts and fanny. Fanny and boob brushings. Any one of these can be attributed to past history of

our little long term flirting game.

Kicker: I was mixing myself a drink and was was walking back to the

festivities, she was coming the other way. She pinned me to the wall her ample bosom pressed tightly to my abs, her

hands on my hips. She deeply inhales my application area, nostrils flaring she nips my right pectoral muscle with

her teeth. Then she presses her finger between my lips. She had been diddling herself. Then she walked away with a

backward glance.

Forgive me for not noting any other hits.

Hey

Gorgar good posting man, and great results with just around one drop

PI.



I certainly can understand you not having noted any other

hits.
And as i said an excellent

post.



The only problem is with the timing because i am experiencing a teeny dry

spell at the moment, and therefore should not be exercising my sexual visualisation lol.





There is lots a fish around these waters but i am looking after my g/f

and being a good boy.





My scented PI should be arriving here in a few days and then i will have

something to play with.

[kgk4569]

heh, yes you will.

Once I

finish off these EDTs I'm going to put some of my PI scented into it. I find I get alot more reactions with the

Sprays for some reason.

Question Pi scented is oil based I believe...will this cause me problems for spraying on

clothes?

[Gorgar]

One spray of PI/Old Spice mix on

bare chest and a couple inches of SoE on my forearms.

She: "Oh my god, you smell so damn good!"

Me: "So you

like the smell of Old Spice?"

She: "Oh yes, it makes my want to ride your c**k right now.


Shoot...

Score...