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    Speaking of moderation, can we

    take this back to the topic?
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    Topic? you want to be on topic?

    There goes the neighborhood.....

    There have been a number of experiments of this type conducted using everything

    from printed oppinion forms filled out by the participants to MRIs and I wouldnt be supprised if somebody tried

    doing disections befor and after the experiment. The one thing that has been fairly consistent is that men and women

    realy do respond to the opposite sex differently under conditions involving sweat and arousal. The hard work isnt

    figuring out that it works...the hard part has been figuring out how to enhance responses from the opposite sex to

    our individual advantage.

    Thats where we come in.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by tim929 View Post
    Topic? you

    want to be on topic? There goes the neighborhood.....

    There have been a number of experiments of this type

    conducted using everything from printed oppinion forms filled out by the participants to MRIs and I wouldnt be

    supprised if somebody tried doing disections befor and after the experiment. The one thing that has been fairly

    consistent is that men and women realy do respond to the opposite sex differently under conditions involving sweat

    and arousal. The hard work isnt figuring out that it works...the hard part has been figuring out how to enhance

    responses from the opposite sex to our individual advantage.

    Thats where we come in.......
    Ah...well!

    You know how it is. Got to do something to justify my incredibly high salary.

    Hey Tim! Long time. Good to see

    you around.

    It surprises me the number of people who still stand firm on the idea that heromones do not work. A

    lot of people think the whole thing belongs in the same catagory as bigfoot and UFOs. I'm not complaining. It gives

    us fruitcakes a leg up in society.
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    High salary? Damn! I've got

    to talk to Bruce...

    I was never much interested in the "science of attraction" until I found these Mone thingys,

    and find the science pretty interesting but not all that useful. I think behavior is too complex and unpredictable

    from setting to setting to be able to nail down some kind of formula for success. Knowing that Stimulus A triggers

    Response B in Location C in Brain D only tells us what we know from experience. Knowing how an internal combustion

    engine works does not make me a better driver.

    Pheromones definitely work, and will "jump-start" a situation, but

    you're still left with what you can do afterwards to manage the response, as Tim said.

    Dos centavos


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    Default Want to know, but really don't

    Very

    interesting research, to know the (why) and (How) in the brains ..

    But do we want to really know ?

    With

    social science being advanced, if that type of brain activities research would produce the conclusive results, with

    'guaranteed' implements, products, to trigger exact and guaranteed results ... it won't be days til it is all

    'on the market', products for sale left and right ...

    Then where would that take us ? - no initiative,

    spontaneousity, excitement, experimentations, successes and failures.

    Would humans then evolve and find other

    methods of selections ?

    Hope we get close, but not close enough to our detriment

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    Quote Originally Posted by idesign View Post
    High

    salary? Damn! I've got to talk to Bruce...

    I was never much interested in the "science of attraction" until I

    found these Mone thingys, and find the science pretty interesting but not all that useful. I think behavior is too

    complex and unpredictable from setting to setting to be able to nail down some kind of formula for success. Knowing

    that Stimulus A triggers Response B in Location C in Brain D only tells us what we know from experience. Knowing how

    an internal combustion engine works does not make me a better driver.

    Pheromones definitely work, and will

    "jump-start" a situation, but you're still left with what you can do afterwards to manage the response, as Tim

    said.

    Dos centavos

    When it comes to sex, people are about as complicated as it can get. Youve got

    fetishes, things that turn certain people on or off, its not like an animal...when one gets in the heat it has sex

    with whatever happens to be available. Phermones can defineitly be used to control sexual behavior of an animal, but

    people arent that simple and they always have the choice based on what thier preferences are.

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    Actually as I understand it,

    pheromones don't necessarily "alter" behavior, especially in us "higher forms" who also use concious thought. They

    are just a form of chemical communication between organisms.

    They might "influence" behavior, but the "altering"

    part is up to the brain. And although pheromones may "communicate" with the more "primitive" parts of the brain (eg

    brain stem as some call it), the end behavior still must be "filtered" through the semi-concious mid-brain and more

    or less fully conscious upper-brain (if we also assume the "triune" brain theory).

    Which of course, like has

    been said, means it comes down to still having to *act* on or dig out and encourage whatever feelings may be being

    evoked by the actions of the pheromones on the body/brain.


    Just my thoughts fer what they is worth.



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    So if a guy would not

    naturally be attracted to you (that is without the artificial -Mones), exactly what influence would the -mones have

    on him/how effectively could they change his opinion? -I know you cannot be 'exact' with this, that there are so

    many other factors involved.

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    'Mones are applied because they

    can lead to sexual interest. It is believed that they are detected by the VNO (Vomeronasal Organ) in the nose. This

    is a separate thing from a sense of smell. There is a direct link to the brain of chemical messages I believe.



    They work for some people on some occasions - how 'effective' also depends which 'mone product

    applied, your body heat, skin exposure .... They are well worth experimenting with & for fun.

    I used 1/2

    'The Edge/men' gel pack (TE/m) on my neck & a girl sitting next to me ended her conversation with me by saying

    'Is there anything else you would like ?'
    I replied that I always like to look at the menu before I make my

    selection

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