L-S product - Silent Seduction for men

[chas]

I

was thinking of trying this L-S product. It seems to have the same concentration of 'none as Primal Instinct - is

it as effective ? Any good hits with it ?

[fantasylove]

Please search on the forum,

coz. There are tons of results you will get about L-S products.

[kgk4569]

Please search on the forum, coz. There are tons of results you will get about L-S

products.

Nope, not this one, no reviews on it actually.

Some mentions but no reviews, no Hits, no nothing.

[Gegogi]

Please

search on the forum, coz. There are tons of results you will get about L-S products.

Never heard of it. Must be a new product.

[Rbt]

I've seen Silent Seduction

mentioned about a year ago or so. haven't tried it yet myself. Maybe on next order. (already have more "toys" to

play with than time.)

It struck me more as a "trial sized" or "gift" item, and awfully similar to products

already out there or that I've already tried. Granted I've found so called "identical" or very similar products

can give quite different results... so I am open to giving it a shot.

I had the impression it's more of an

androstenone heavy product and I've been leaning toward trying more experiments with the androstenols and A-1

recently. To me androstenone is over rated and over used anyway, but that's more my personal opinion. Plus I'm an

old fart with different target groups and motivations.

[chas]

I searched the forum before I

started this thread & got 9 results. However , they were all that someone had bought this item & not their results

with it.

I'm sure that it is a good product for Bruce to stock it & the manufacturers' web site is good &

clear. On that web site the manufacturers said that they are introducing a new product in May - I wonder if Bruce

has heard on the grapevine what they might be adding to the 'Silent Seduction for Men' mix - extra pheromones

perhaps ??

[terry0400-40]

We are confident that you

will receive the personal results you've been waiting for. We guarantee that Silent Seduction™ pheromones for

Men, has the highest concentration of 0.5 MG Androstenone available on the market.

Begin using Silent

Seduction™ as soon as you get it. Simply put a few drops on your finger, rubbing it on your wrists, neckline

and behind your ears. Be creative with your application - if you know you're going to be intimate, put some on the

back of your knees or thighs.

There's no need to use the whole bottle at once to get results. Due to the high

concentration of active pheromones in Silent Seduction™ products, our formula has been proven to work wonders

with as little as a single drop in some cases! Once you have applied the pheromones, they will begin to break down

over a period of 4-6 hours. After that you can re-apply. So its 500mcg/1ml

therefore if you divided the content by 25 uses then each use would give you around 20 mcg Androstenone which is

about the same as using one drop of PI.
This range of

products have exactly the same concentration, ratios and formulas as Primal Instinct products, even the womens

Silent Seduction formula is identical to PI/w,
The

bottles are the same, and the only difference is in the labeling/marketing aspects.

[chas]

Be creative with your

application - if you know you're going to be intimate, put some on the back of your knees or thighs...

Why do they suggest putting 'mones on the * back * of your knees ?? I don't follow this... I can see why

(possibly) a female could gain from this - 'ankles round the ears time' but how would a male gain by doing it ???

Terry & Chicago are bound to know

Terry - do you think that PI & Silent Seduction for Men are the same

product marketed separately, or is SSFM a clone because straight 'none is straight 'none?

[belgareth]

You are right that -none is

-none. However, some companies produce a far less clean -none than others. It seems to smell worse and not work as

well. Also, for some reason, different bottles of the same product seem to have less or more effect than others.

It's been commented on a few times on the forum in the past

[terry0400-40]

Why do

they suggest putting 'mones on the * back * of your knees ?? I don't follow this... I can see why (possibly) a

female could gain from this - 'ankles round the ears time' but how would a male gain by doing it ??? Terry &

Chicago are bound to know

Terry - do you think that PI & Silent Seduction for Men are the same product

marketed separately, or is SSFM a clone because straight 'none is straight

'none?

Stone Labs produce many and varied pheromone products, these are

marketed under various names by a variety of dealers, and many do not have a S L branding distinction on the

bottle.
I dont think even SOE has the Stone Labs logo

attached to the label, i havent got time to go downstairs and have a look.


But you also will not find it on the Silent Seduction

or PI for that matter i doubt.

[chas]

Why do some

companies produce a smellier 'none than others ? Is it a cheaper process & are some unwanted chemicals therefore

not removed ? Why is it less effective ?

What is the chemical formula of a pheromone e.g. 'none ? DST will know

this...

I didn't know that Stone Labs are linked with SOE. Do they manufacture the 'nol ?

[terry0400-40]

Why do

some companies produce a smellier 'none than others ? Is it a cheaper process & are some unwanted chemicals

therefore not removed ? Why is it less effective ?

What is the chemical formula of a pheromone e.g. 'none ? DST

will know this...

I didn't know that Stone Labs are linked with SOE. Do they manufacture the 'nol

?

Stone manufacture nol, none, rone, and

others.



Different manufacturers have their own favourite formulas for Androstenone

additives so as to make them either smell or less smelly and they sometimes experiment with the odour configerations

to get a more saleable product.
They put out a less

smelly version of PI and the new one smells tame compared to the old

stuff.
I have some 4 year old PI that sure rates high

on the stink list.

[DrSmellThis]

Why do some

companies produce a smellier 'none than others ? Is it a cheaper process & are some unwanted chemicals therefore

not removed ? Why is it less effective ?

What is the chemical formula of a pheromone e.g. 'none ? DST will know

this...

I didn't know that Stone Labs are linked with SOE. Do they manufacture the 'nol ?

I'm not the

best person to answer chemistry questions. I'd have to look it up the same as you for a lot of chemistry

stuff.

Purity of a chemical can be due to production process or to the cleansing process after, I think. Stone

used to have a good reputation in that sense.

[dapg01]

I've always been puzzled with

Stone Labs and their different products under different names.
From what I hear Stone Labs is also the same

manufacturers as Love Essentials, but I don't know which products compare to which. I think Alter Ego is the same

as Swept Away, but I could be wrong.
Anyone know if this is true?

[Rbt]

I've always

been puzzled with Stone Labs and their different products under different names.
From what I hear Stone Labs is

also the same manufacturers as Love Essentials, but I don't know which products compare to which. I think Alter Ego

is the same as Swept Away, but I could be wrong.
Anyone know if this is true?

It's not unusual for

manufacturers to sell their lines under different names. Often it's for marketing purposes (selling one line out of

boutiques, and a "cheaper" line out of discount stores for example).

I don't know about Stone's polocies.

[terry0400-40]

I've

always been puzzled with Stone Labs and their different products under different names.
From what I hear Stone

Labs is also the same manufacturers as Love Essentials, but I don't know which products compare to which. I think

Alter Ego is the same as Swept Away, but I could be wrong.
Anyone know if this is

true?

Yeah PI, Fero Ciencia, Human Ephoria, SOE, and Swept Away ? um

forget whats in the formula.

[dapg01]

Terry, all those are made by

Stone Labs? Do you know if any of them are similar or equivalent to each other, or are they all different?

[terry0400-40]

Terry,

all those are made by Stone Labs? Do you know if any of them are similar or equivalent to each other, or are they

all different?

Some may be similar but it all comes down to what the

seller requires in their formulas, and this also applies to the fragrance additives

involved.
Some formulas may be very similar in

characteristics to another competing brand, and therefore labeling and marketing aspects sell the product if it is

well presented with good advertising coverage then it will sell better, regardless of the actual real

quality.

[dapg01]

Interesting...Well we all know

that Scent of Eros is top notch, as well as alter ego. I have no idea about fero ciencia or human euphoria in terms

of effectiveness.

The one I'm interested in is Love Essentials because I heard some of their formulas are very

similar to alter ego and maybe other products we know better. I don't know of anyone who has had much experience

with them.

[terry0400-40]

Interesting...Well we all know that Scent of Eros is top notch, as well as alter ego. I have

no idea about fero ciencia or human euphoria in terms of effectiveness.

The one I'm interested in is

Love Essentials

because I heard some of their formulas are very similar to alter ego and maybe other

products we know better. I don't know of anyone who has had much experience with

them.

I have used up a 0.5 fl oz of Conquest Pheromone Attractant,

received from L***ssentials on the 2nd Jan 07.
The

dosage is " place two to three drops on your fingers and apply to...........

.
This was supposed to have been an Androstenone

product but smelled like a fake product was my actual thoughts on the

odour.



I used up the whole bottle and not once did i notice any reaction that even

looked like a hit that i could have attribute to this juice.





My buddy sent me the remains of some of his 4 yr old PI several weeks

ago.



I have used it 3 times since, @ 1dr each time and the stuff works a treat,

smells yummy yummy genuine Androstenone.





Also the self effect with this PI is very energising and have suprised

myself by acting in a very mascho and kick arse carefree

style.



Even so there is no trouble coming on sassy and a tad sweet when having to

smooth talk a curvy chic in

style.



I dont really know about the current PI but i can say my 4 yr old PI is the

kick arse real deal juice.

[kgk4569]

this all coming from the guy

who told me A7 was probably better than PI lol

[terry0400-40]

this

all coming from the guy who told me A7 was probably better than PI

lol

Re the new bottle of PI that i received on the

10th of Aug 06 .



It had no odour whatsoever and it also caused no self effects or any effects

to anyone around either.



So i sent it back and Bruce replaced it with my bottle of Alpha 7

.



Now i understand that the current PI is also

odourless
But as far as it being effective i have not

heard any reports from users who are receiving any favourable results from it.

[kgk4569]

Re the new bottle of PI that i

received on the 10th of Aug 06 .

It had no odour

whatsoever and it also caused no self effects or any effects to anyone around

either.

So i sent it back and Bruce replaced it with

my bottle of Alpha 7 .

Now i understand that the

current PI is also odourless
But as far as it being

effective i have not heard any reports from users who are receiving any favourable results from it.

I was just teasing you. If I really cared Iwould have bought the PI regardless of

what you said.

[terry0400-40]

was just Iteasing you .

If I really cared Iwould have bought the PI regardless

of what you said.

I thought you were, now i owe you i guess

!!



I realise that you would go for some PI had you the inclination, just too

see how it works personally.



Also i was just being factual with regard to my past PI purchase so as not

to give the inpression that i may have been implying that the current PI had any problems.





Actually the current PI may be good shit, although i have not received any

feedback on it.



Possably could start a

thread.
Hmmmm hmmmm hmmmmm

hmmmmm.....
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[DrSmellThis]

PI has always been a solid

performer as a source of effective -none. One drop and I'm good to go for -none, to say the least. A half drop is a

good moderate dose. Two drops makes you a "he man".

The oily consistency is also good in terms of easy

application, compared to ultra thin alcohol solutions.

A7 may be more bang for the buck, someone said, though

I've not tried it. It has a little -rone in it, and a bit of -rone is well known to increase effectiveness of the

other -mones for guys. But you could always add your own -rone via a314 (which is a unique and effective -rone

product) or chemset -rone, etc, if you were using PI (or say, Edge/NPA).

A lot of times the best product for you

depends on the other products you like to use. It's about the overall chemistry.

[belgareth]

A7 has a lot of other mones in

it that seem to buffer the OD effects I get from things like PI or even TE. I tried PI a while back and still have

close to 3/4 of the bottle because all I got out of it was OD reactions. I can wear a drop of A7 with other things,

well covered, without people running form the room screaming or curling into fetal balls. Perhaps adding rone to PI

would work for me but it is easier to use A7.

[DrSmellThis]

A7 has

a lot of other mones in it that seem to buffer the OD effects

Are you sure? My recollection is that all it

has in addition to -none is -rone.

In any case, the insight you give seems solid. I'll get around to trying it

sooner or later, as I'm one of those guys too who, despite my advanced chronology, seems to produce a lot of -none

naturally. Like you, I get in OD trouble if I'm not careful.

[belgareth]

No, I'm not 100% sure but

it was my understanding that it had a total of 7 mones in it and that's why it was called A7. Of course, to borrow

Mobley's disclaimer, I reserve the right to be wrong.

Hopefully, there is no limit on how many times I can be

wrong in a day. Some days I seem to be trying to set a record.

[idesign]

Ahhhhh.. your memory does indeed

fail you aged one. Chikara (C7) is the "seven secret ingredient" pheromone. Just checked the A7 bottle and its 6mg

-None and 1mg -Rone.

My experience lines up with yours, I can use A7 but NOT NPA, and TE only very lightly. A7

seems to be quite refined in its effects, if I can use that word.

[Rbt]

I just posted in another thread

(from Terry re: old PI vs New PI). I too have found that PI by itself just seems to be far to overwhelming, but when

I experimented and "buffered" it with some a314 the same "target" who had curled up in a defensive (fetal) ball

before with straight PI didn't react that way at all with the combo. No "sexual" reactions, but some far friendlier

and "open" behavior.