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    Hi all,

    I found your place

    because of the agarwood thread. It got me interested in purchasing your pheromones.

    I purchased your super combo

    pack SOE+NPA and A7 and it is on the way.

    I have one question that I could not find and it is possible I missed

    it in the threads.

    If i leave work in the morning around 6 am and say I apply SOE and A7 will I have to reapply

    it again throughout the day or it should last the entire day? I usually get home around 7 pm and sometimes go out

    afterwards without coming home to a bar for a few drinks.

    Do I need to bring the bottles with me?


    I like the

    idea of oil so not having to reapply multiple times which is one reason why I like agarwood and highly concentrated

    parfums.

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by azz View Post
    Hi all,



    I found your place because of the agarwood thread. It got me interested in purchasing your pheromones.

    I

    purchased your super combo pack SOE+NPA and A7 and it is on the way.

    I have one question that I could not find

    and it is possible I missed it in the threads.

    If i leave work in the morning around 6 am and say I apply SOE

    and A7 will I have to reapply it again throughout the day or it should last the entire day? I usually get home

    around 7 pm and sometimes go out afterwards without coming home to a bar for a few drinks.

    Do I need to bring

    the bottles with me?


    I like the idea of oil so not having to reapply multiple times which is one reason why I

    like agarwood and highly concentrated parfums.

    Thanks
    Hi azz,With the A7 and SOE i

    usually have a freshen up and apply once again before my evening outing.
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    But with NPA i should not need to

    reapply? because that is so strong correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by azz View Post
    But with

    NPA i should not need to reapply? because that is so strong correct?
    It depends on how much is

    applied and also your own individual pheromone signature, but as a rule Androstenone will last over to the next day,

    So i advise giving the Androstenone a rest every few days if you find that the attraction factor starts to lesen or

    dissapate, then start over with small initial Anone application amounts, with the thought that less is best.

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    Can I ask one more question

    Best

    place to apply SOE when it is cold out?

    I read where a lot of people are putting it on their forearms? but my

    jacket and long sleeve would cover it up right?

    so should I put it on my neck instead? I plan to apply A7 on my

    neck.

    Thanks again for all your help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by azz View Post
    Can I ask

    one more question

    Best place to apply SOE when it is cold out?

    I read where a lot of people are putting it

    on their forearms? but my jacket and long sleeve would cover it up right?

    so should I put it on my neck instead?

    I plan to apply A7 on my neck.

    Thanks again for all your help.
    Your wrists and neck

    pulsepoints would be suitable sites in cold weather.

    I usually spread some on my hair at

    neckline level also at times.
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    Azz apply to your ears. Every

    time you move you head, you release mones in the

    air.
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    Welcome to the forum azz. One

    thing you should be careful with is -None at work. I'd use SoE by itself to start with to see what it does alone.

    Then you can add a tiny bit of A7 or NPA. Did I say tiny?

    I'd save NPA for social use. Its strength is in

    its power, not longevity per se. Use sparingly or risk an OD.

    I apply to the top of my hands as well as my

    wrists and neck.


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    Quote Originally Posted by idesign View Post
    Welcome to the forum azz. One thing you should be careful with is -None at work. I'd use SoE

    by itself to start with to see what it does alone. Then you can add a tiny bit of A7 or NPA. Did I say tiny?



    I'd save NPA for social use. Its strength is in its power, not longevity per se. Use sparingly or risk an OD.



    I apply to the top of my hands as well as my wrists and neck.
    When i

    was younger, so much younger than today, i also used to add a tiny bit of MPA or Alpha 7, But now that i have

    matured somewhat i apply a wee bit, And sometimes just a wee bit more than a tiny bit, But when i am feeling

    adventurous i will go the whole hog and apply a tiny bit and then cover with a wee bit.

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    Thanks everyone for your

    helped

    it shipped yesterday so hopefully should be here by end of week before weekend



    For SOE how mcuh

    should I apply to start with?> I keep reading about inches? from what i understand it is a roller top thing? I

    always liked droppers so this is a new thing for me.


    so say recommendation is 6 inches, is that 6 inches on

    each hand?


    I am really thinking of doing my neck pulse points because if i wash my hands it might get wet and

    then i lose it. Plus is SOE oil based or alcohol?


    Your recommendation says is to apply 6 inches along the back

    of my neckline say 6 inches? would it be ok to then spray my favorite cologne on top of it? I got it UNSCENTED

    version?

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    Quote Originally Posted by azz View Post
    Thanks

    everyone for your helped

    it shipped yesterday so hopefully should be here by end of week before weekend





    For SOE how mcuh should I apply to start with?> I keep reading about inches? from what i understand it is a roller

    top thing? I always liked droppers so this is a new thing for me.


    so say recommendation is 6 inches, is that

    6 inches on each hand?


    I am really thinking of doing my neck pulse points because if i wash my hands it

    might get wet and then i lose it. Plus is SOE oil based or alcohol?


    Your recommendation says is to apply 6

    inches along the back of my neckline say 6 inches? would it be ok to then spray my favorite cologne on top of it? I

    got it UNSCENTED version?
    When wearing a T shirt then 6" SOE to each bicep is a decent light

    application initially.

    My average amount for a general days wear is usually around 30" or

    one full gel/pkt.

    And use about 1 or 1 and a 1/2 gel/pkt for night club use for

    example.

    Generally it works out at at 5" SOE = one drop.
    And 6 drops

    SOE is equal in pheromone content to one full SOE gel/pkt.


    To

    answer your question i have had positive hits with my SOE applications applied on top of few sprays of cologne and

    when dried,another few sprays cologne on top, i have then had women actually tell me that i have a sexy smell, Mind

    you i usually use a drop of Alpha 7 with my SOE.


    Alpha 7 is

    appropriatelly used with a tiny wee dab for a new users initial applications so as to establish what his ODT is. (

    OD threshold.), adhering to the old adage that "less is best" perspective is always good advice.



    If you dont plan on a thorough hand wash then the wrist

    pulsepoints is good for SOE and also the Rear head hair line 6" with a swipe on the chin and your NPA or A7 under

    the ears or lower front neckline ect.
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    I just thought I let everyone know

    I just started to use the products and got some pretty good results with just one dab of NPA. I was pretty

    impressed actually.

    I thought I would OD as what a lot of people would talk about here from reading various posts

    if not careful due to so much none, but no I did not and was getting tons of hits and later that night my girlfriend

    literally jumped me when i went over to her house.

    I dabbed it on the front of my throat by the adam's apple,

    and then covered with 2 sprays of cologne, one on chest and one right over where i applied the dab and seemed to

    work great.



    one quick question is the SOE from the bottle alcholol or oil based? if it is alcohol can i just

    transfer it to a 10ml spray on bottle? I do not like the roll on applicator, it keeps getting stuck and a lot of

    times i cannot tell if anything is coming out and no accurate way to do dosage. I sort of like to be consistent on

    dosing. Or does anyone have a better way of doing it? Thanks again for help

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    Quote Originally Posted by azz View Post
    I just

    thought I let everyone know I just started to use the products and got some pretty good results with just one dab of

    NPA. I was pretty impressed actually.

    I thought I would OD as what a lot of people would talk about here from

    reading various posts if not careful due to so much none, but no I did not and was getting tons of hits and later

    that night my girlfriend literally jumped me when i went over to her house.

    I dabbed it on the front of my

    throat by the adam's apple, and then covered with 2 sprays of cologne, one on chest and one right over where i

    applied the dab and seemed to work great.



    one quick question is the SOE from the bottle alcholol or oil

    based? if it is alcohol can i just transfer it to a 10ml spray on bottle? I do not like the roll on applicator, it

    keeps getting stuck and a lot of times i cannot tell if anything is coming out and no accurate way to do dosage. I

    sort of like to be consistent on dosing. Or does anyone have a better way of doing it? Thanks again for

    help
    The first thing that i do with a new bottle of SOE is to give it a

    shake and stand the bottle upright, and then after washing my hands i run a finger or palm over the roller top to

    get it lubricated and freed up of any residual concentrated product caused when in

    storage.


    Once the roller ball has been freed up taking about 30 seconds of your time, thereafter

    there is no problem obtaining a precise roll out of consistant pheromone

    product.


    One drop is equal to 5" ,
    It is SOE easy to roll it onto a finger tip and then apply it to the appropriate

    application points, with precise measurements being no problem whatsoever once the ball has been freed

    up.


    One drop or 5" SOE from the roller top bottle yealds 10.38 mcg Androstenol, + 2.59 mg of

    Androsterone = total of around 12.97 mcg pheromone per drop.


    6 drops SOE bottle =

    30" = 78 mcg = One full SOE gel/pkt in pheromone content approximately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by terry0400-40 View Post
    The first thing that i do with a new bottle of SOE

    is to give it a shake and stand the bottle upright, and then after washing my hands i run a finger or palm over the

    roller top to get it lubricated and freed up of any residual concentrated product caused when in

    storage.


    Once the roller ball has been freed up

    taking about 30 seconds of your time, thereafter there is no problem obtaining a precise roll out of consistant

    pheromone product.


    One drop is equal to 5"

    ,

    It is SOE easy to roll it onto a finger tip and

    then apply it to the appropriate application points, with precise measurements being no problem whatsoever once the

    ball has been freed up.


    One drop or 5" SOE from

    the roller top bottle yealds 10.38 mcg Androstenol, + 2.59 mg of Androsterone = total of around 12.97 mcg pheromone

    per drop.


    6 drops SOE bottle = 30" = 78 mcg =

    One full SOE gel/pkt in pheromone content approximately.
    So particular

    instruction you gave. I think you are good at this stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fantasylove View Post
    So particular instruction you gave. I think you are good at this stuff.

    Thank

    you,
    I done most of my basic calculations for pheromone products when i was struggling for a

    dollar and every drop was of consequence or so it seemed at the time, So sad i lost most of my stats when i had my

    office refurbished sigh. So now i dont have an answer for everything and i am past doing the nity grity calculations

    again.
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    There is no doubt this combo

    SOE/NPA works, I been using SOE/NPA now for about a week or so and I been getting some massive hits.

    I am shocked

    for the value of the combo and I am not od'ing neither I am using two drops of NPA and about 6 drops of SOE and

    seems to work great


    I am extremely happy with your pheros=)

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    Quote Originally Posted by azz View Post
    There is

    no doubt this combo SOE/NPA works, I been using SOE/NPA now for about a week or so and I been getting some massive

    hits.

    I am shocked for the value of the combo and I am not od'ing neither I am using two drops of NPA and about

    6 drops of SOE and seems to work great


    I am extremely happy with your pheros=)
    Just remember to give the NPA a break for a few days if you find that the hits start to dry

    up, then start again with a dab and so on.

    I have

    found that Androstenone build up certainly can occur and start the OD type results coming in, and then one thinks "

    whats wrong with this product"


    Therefore an

    Androstenone break can be a most beneficial strategy when needed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by terry0400-40 View Post
    Just remember to give the NPA a break for a few

    days if you find that the hits start to dry up, then start again with a dab and so on.


    I have found that Androstenone build up certainly

    can occur and start the OD type results coming in, and then one thinks " whats wrong with this product"



    Therefore an Androstenone break can be a most

    beneficial strategy when needed.


    Now this some advice from Terry

    that I can 100% agree with. Overuse of NPA or the Edge can lead to the opposite effect that you are trying to

    achieve. Always take a 4-5 day break after using these products for 2-3 days in a row.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tounge View Post
    Now this some

    advice from Terry that I can 100% agree with. Overuse of NPA or the Edge can lead to the opposite effect that you

    are trying to achieve. Always take a 4-5 day break after using these products for 2-3 days in a row.
    I am

    addicted to this stuff now but i guess it is good advice I will probably take a break tomorrow

    thanks

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    Agree with tounge and Terry,

    there is a build-up effect. In fact, if you do a Forum search for "build-up" or "residual effects"

    you'll see a lot written about it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by tounge View Post
    Now

    this some advice from Terry that I can 100% agree with. Overuse of NPA or the Edge can lead to the opposite effect

    that you are trying to achieve. Always take a 4-5 day break after using these products for 2-3 days in a

    row.
    For a long time i was sorta of the opinion that Androstenone build

    up was just a myth.




    And when the females started to ignore me and give me the fast brush off

    I thought my pheromones had become useless, or i had aged rapidly.


    And then after spending

    a few days at home i went shopping and was becoming amazed at the friendly and clingy responses i was receiving from

    women, especially young teen girls hanging and not wanting to depart from me.




    It took me awhile after analysing the circumstances to realize that i had

    forgotten to apply any pheros that day and i had also not used any Androstenone for a few days previously as

    well.


    I wonder how many others have made the same

    mistake AS i have in thinking their NPA, PI, TE,or Alpha 7 had become useless, All because of gross over use.

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    And it is my understanding it isn't

    just build-up on your body, but in any clothes you may have been wearing as well. Even if you don't apply direct to

    the clothes, some pheromones will probably get on them due to rubbing against the skin you applied to, or just

    picking them up as they disperse into the air.

    I usually wear the same sweater or sweatshirt for 3-4 days

    between washings (although not always 3-4 days in a row), and of course my outer coat I wear every day especially

    during these winter months (it's been below freezing most days). I can sometimes pick up the faint residual scent

    of a prior day's cologne, so I don't doubt some long lasting pheromones (like androstenone) is in there too.



    Of course some "social" pheromones it's hard to OD on (like androstenol) and having something like that carry

    over ain't all that bad. Just have to keep an eye on other people's reactions to see if you have a problem. And

    IMO it's always good to rotate between different products with different mixtures, concentrate on maybe single

    pheromones some days, and skip some days entirely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rbt View Post
    Just have to

    keep an eye on other people's reactions to see if you have a problem. And IMO it's always good to rotate between

    different products with different mixtures, concentrate on maybe single pheromones some days, and skip some days

    entirely.

    Bingo! Its my belief that wearing pheromones successfully is an art form that demands

    understanding of the products, yourself, and the social dynamics that go on around you.


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