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    Hi there, Lilo, here.



    I ordered 4 products: PI/w, EoW, APC/w, and PPC.
    The first time I wore APC by itself, it made ME very

    chatty. Annoyingly so. The second time I decided to use it with PI/w, and... I cleared every room I walked in,

    all the men couldn't wait to get away!
    When I tried PI/w by itself, no reaction whatsoever.
    Ditto with PPC.



    But EoW intrigues me, so I decided to experiment.

    I decanted an alcohol based floral musk fragrance into a

    1/3 oz roll on vial, added 4 drops of EoW, closed it, let it stand for a few days.
    Then I got nervous because

    while reading old threads, and going through the phero library, I read that most recipes containing EoW have much

    less than what I concocted...
    Tonight, I decided to open the vial and at first, there was that unmistakable EoW

    pungency.
    But then it subsided and I was surprised to find that my mix smells like musk fragrance and me at the

    height of ovulation. (I'm not, btw, I'm further into my cycle)
    But sadly, I won't be able to test it out in

    the real world until tomorrow.

    Questions:

    Do the effects of copulins go away if I cannot smell them?
    Is my

    mix too strong or too weak?
    What responses can I expect from:
    PI/w + my cop/musk mix?
    my cop/musk mix

    alone?
    PI/w alone?
    Why does APC behave like a man-begone repellent?
    What mix should I cook up if I want a sexual

    but emotion rooted response?

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    Good morning Lilo and welcome

    to the forum.

    No, the effects do not go away if you cannot smell them unless it has been long enough for the

    product to wear off. Under average conditions that would be around 4-5 hours.

    I'm a firm believer in less is

    better so will suggest to you that you start with a minimal applications. You are using EoW, which is very powerful

    but not nearly so strong as the original batches we played with years ago. That stuff would peel paint and really

    did disolve rubber.

    The rest of your questions can be summed up easily. Everybody's body chemistry is different

    and every human's reaction to pheromones will be different. There is a lot of trial and error that goes into using

    mones. The best advice I can offer is to start with a single product and a low dose. Increase the dose over a period

    of days until you determine it doesn't work, you see positive responses, somebody declares you stink or you empty a

    room. At that point you'll know what that particular product does for you. Move on to the next product and follow

    the same procedure. After you have a grip of what the different products do or do not do you can mix products with

    some understanding of what will happen and how much to use.

    Hope that helped.
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    Thanks, Belgareth!

    I am still

    wondering about dilution proportions, with EoW.I decided to try my mix today, on top of PI/w, I'll see what

    happens.

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    I recall some ladies reporting that

    they can get some dynamite results using relatively large doses of EoW. But you need to be careful, probably

    starting low and working your way up, and making sure whatever you have to use as a cover scent is up to the job.



    Remember too that what may reek of "fermenting cheese" to you as some have described EoW, it may be the most

    wonderful smell in the world to some guys. It's often your target audience whose opinion/reaction that counts the

    most, not yours.
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    This morning I used 2 drops of

    PI/w, then applied my mix of fragrance and EoW.
    Then I went to run errands, to the gym and to work.
    And is it

    my imagination or people especially men seemed more friendly, more talkative, more casual than normal?
    The scent

    was perfect, nothing offensive. But I will have to retry in various situations before I become a convert!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiLo View Post
    This morning I

    used 2 drops of PI/w, then applied my mix of fragrance and EoW.
    Then I went to run errands, to the gym and to

    work.
    And is it my imagination or people especially men seemed more friendly, more talkative, more casual than

    normal?
    The scent was perfect, nothing offensive. But I will have to retry in various situations before I become a

    convert!
    It's liable to take a few weeks if not a couple of months to see if things are really

    different.
    The opposite of love isn't hate.
    It's apathy
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    I decided to strengthen my EoW mix

    and added a few more drops to that cologne I mixed it in when I started. At first it wasn't so nice but after a

    few minutes the copulin smell went away.
    So now I have a question:
    Is it possible to OD on copulins?
    What

    signs should I watch out for?

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    I think it would OD on

    copulins if you use them too much. The limit for everyone is different. You should test it youself. But in general,

    2 or 3 drops are good.

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    The women's Pheromax has a good

    level of copulins in it, or did last I smelled it. When first applied it smelled nasty, but soon it mellowed (maybe

    within several minutes) to a very nice rich aroma. You should be able to get the same effect with EOW; just a

    matter of getting the right amount.
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    Good morning Lilo and welcome

    to the forum.

    No, the effects do not go away if you cannot smell them unless it has been long enough for the

    product to wear off. Under average conditions that would be around 4-5 hours.
    Last edited by Bruce; 02-14-2013 at 09:11 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiLo View Post
    Hi there, Lilo, here.



    I ordered 4 products: PI/w, EoW, APC/w, and PPC.
    The first time I wore APC by itself, it made ME very

    chatty. Annoyingly so. The second time I decided to use it with PI/w, and... I cleared every room I walked in,

    all the men couldn't wait to get away!
    When I tried PI/w by itself, no reaction whatsoever.
    Ditto with PPC.



    But EoW intrigues me, so I decided to experiment.

    I decanted an alcohol based floral musk fragrance into a

    1/3 oz roll on vial, added 4 drops of EoW, closed it, let it stand for a few days.
    Then I got nervous because

    while reading old threads, and going through the phero library, I read that most recipes containing EoW have much

    less than what I concocted...
    Tonight, I decided to open the vial and at first, there was that unmistakable EoW

    pungency.
    But then it subsided and I was surprised to find that my mix smells like musk fragrance and me at the

    height of ovulation. (I'm not, btw, I'm further into my cycle)
    But sadly, I won't be able to test it out in

    the real world until tomorrow.

    Questions:

    Do the effects of copulins go away if I cannot smell them?
    Is my

    mix too strong or too weak?
    What responses can I expect from:
    PI/w + my cop/musk mix?
    my cop/musk mix

    alone?
    PI/w alone?
    Why does APC behave like a man-begone repellent?
    What mix should I cook up if I want a sexual

    but emotion rooted response?
    I am also a member like you !

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