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    Thumbs up Liquid Trust and others- Good Hit Experiences

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    Hello, all! I believe this is my first post, after two orders (three, soon!) and a lot of

    reading.


    Overall, by creating positive, trusting, sexy combinations... I've noticed I'm leaving quite a few

    more men strongly allured these days.

    Thanks to Bruce for terrific products and an encompassing selection, and to

    Verolabs for L.T.!



    My results with Liquid Trust:

    I can't say enough about this product. It is fantastic.

    I've sprayed a bit to liven up parties. I've gotten remarks from ex boyfriends, new guys the like along the lines

    of, "I've never felt this comfortable with anyone." It even perks up my own mood quite a bit.

    My

    Recommendations:
    A) Be covert. I spray it on seconds before entering a meeting, or a party. If out on a date, I

    spray it on without his noticing before I get into his car. At a movie, for example, you might walk behind your date

    into the seating, and spray a bit right before you sit down next to them.
    B) Time it. The effects of Liquid Trust

    can last up to four hours, generally. However, from what I've read, the oxytocin denatures quickly when exposed to

    air. I have DEFINITELY seen the best results when, by timing my spray, the person I want to affect is next to me for

    the first 30 seconds after I spray. It seems they must breathe it in a bit near immediately after you spray it,

    before it breaks down due to oxygen exposure. Although some effects are otherwise possible, I haven't really

    noticed strong results without doing this, let alone results that last up to four hours.
    C) Count it. I realize

    that Verolabs' recommended dosage is small (1-2 sprays, as listed on bottle). However, I have used up to 8 sprays

    in a row with TERRIFIC effects... The person I am around becomes very affectionate, trusting, shares intimate

    secrets. The spray will affect you, too, so remember that you are engendering a situation, and need to keep having

    positive experiences with your companion before you should actually act on the level of "trust" you are feeling.

    I'm very serious- if you are using 8 sprays... DO NOT REVEAL DEEP SECRETS OR EMOTIONS. You will feel quite

    comfortable and will likely want to do so, so be sure to keep control with your head as long as you calculate is

    necessary.
    Note: Any more than 8 sprays/4 hours, in my experience, is likely to cause a headache or next-day

    fatigue. This is particularly true if I spray close to my nose (i.e., below my chin instead of on the back of my

    hair). Think of it in terms of how much you and your target each breathe in.
    D) Cool it. Seriously, keep Liquid

    Trust in the fridge, as much as possible.

    Other combos I like:
    #1) A spray of The Edge over an

    androstenone-based scent (bought elsewhere): I've noticed that going a bit strong on the androstenone drives a

    particular type of men, those "alpha" guys, wild. When I say alpha, I mean their slightly dominant personality,

    enhanced likelihood to be leader of their buddies, etc. Among such guys, a strong sexual hit of interest happens so

    immediately that I've started to call the androstenone, "Pounce"! (Long stripes of androstenone on my arms, behind

    ears, and in cleavage, along with the spray, are applied not more often than every four hours.)

    #2) As

    recommended by a few skilled women on here, I sometimes apply copulins (Essence of Woman, dropper bottle) directly

    to my underarms, after a shower. One drop only goes on each side. I've tried using it on pulse points, where it

    does have an affect on men, of course. However, letting a bit be absorbed through the underarms (before, or without

    deodorant) dilates my eyes noticeably within a few minutes, and gets *me* pretty horny within two hours, without any

    stimulation.. If you’re out in the town, it is kind of like being at a dinner party and not being able to go

    for it… Yet wanting to, even during a platonic event. It's really quite fun, and lasts (for me) nearly two

    hours in affect. (Done once per 12 hrs, as desired).

    #3) Two gel packets of The Edge, along with two packets of

    Scent of Eros. Gets a friendly, sexy reaction. I find that the hits are stronger when I double up... The scent does

    need time to settle though. (Applied not more often than every 5-6 hours).


    Thoughts, opinions, differing

    results?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HeavenlyLei View Post
    Hello,

    all! I believe this is my first post, after two orders (three, soon!) and a lot of reading.


    Overall, by

    creating positive, trusting, sexy combinations... I've noticed I'm leaving quite a few more men strongly allured

    these days.

    Thanks to Bruce for terrific products and an encompassing selection, and to Verolabs for L.T.!





    My results with Liquid Trust:

    I can't say enough about this product. It is fantastic. I've sprayed a bit

    to liven up parties. I've gotten remarks from ex boyfriends, new guys the like along the lines of, "I've never

    felt this comfortable with anyone." It even perks up my own mood quite a bit.

    My Recommendations:
    A) Be covert.

    I spray it on seconds before entering a meeting, or a party. If out on a date, I spray it on without his noticing

    before I get into his car. At a movie, for example, you might walk behind your date into the seating, and spray a

    bit right before you sit down next to them.
    B) Time it. The effects of Liquid Trust can last up to four hours,

    generally. However, from what I've read, the oxytocin denatures quickly when exposed to air. I have DEFINITELY seen

    the best results when, by timing my spray, the person I want to affect is next to me for the first 30 seconds after

    I spray. It seems they must breathe it in a bit near immediately after you spray it, before it breaks down due to

    oxygen exposure. Although some effects are otherwise possible, I haven't really noticed strong results without

    doing this, let alone results that last up to four hours.
    C) Count it. I realize that Verolabs' recommended dosage

    is small (1-2 sprays, as listed on bottle). However, I have used up to 8 sprays in a row with TERRIFIC effects...

    The person I am around becomes very affectionate, trusting, shares intimate secrets. The spray will affect you, too,

    so remember that you are engendering a situation, and need to keep having positive experiences with your companion

    before you should actually act on the level of "trust" you are feeling. I'm very serious- if you are using 8

    sprays... DO NOT REVEAL DEEP SECRETS OR EMOTIONS. You will feel quite comfortable and will likely want to do so, so

    be sure to keep control with your head as long as you calculate is necessary.
    Note: Any more than 8 sprays/4

    hours, in my experience, is likely to cause a headache or next-day fatigue. This is particularly true if I spray

    close to my nose (i.e., below my chin instead of on the back of my hair). Think of it in terms of how much you and

    your target each breathe in.
    D) Cool it. Seriously, keep Liquid Trust in the fridge, as much as possible.

    Other

    combos I like:
    #1) A spray of The Edge over an androstenone-based scent (bought elsewhere): I've noticed that

    going a bit strong on the androstenone drives a particular type of men, those "alpha" guys, wild. When I say alpha,

    I mean their slightly dominant personality, enhanced likelihood to be leader of their buddies, etc. Among such guys,

    a strong sexual hit of interest happens so immediately that I've started to call the androstenone, "Pounce"! (Long

    stripes of androstenone on my arms, behind ears, and in cleavage, along with the spray, are applied not more often

    than every four hours.)

    #2) As recommended by a few skilled women on here, I sometimes apply copulins (Essence

    of Woman, dropper bottle) directly to my underarms, after a shower. One drop only goes on each side. I've tried

    using it on pulse points, where it does have an affect on men, of course. However, letting a bit be absorbed through

    the underarms (before, or without deodorant) dilates my eyes noticeably within a few minutes, and gets *me* pretty

    horny within two hours, without any stimulation.. If you’re out in the town, it is kind of like being at a dinner

    party and not being able to go for it… Yet wanting to, even during a platonic event. It's really quite fun, and

    lasts (for me) nearly two hours in affect. (Done once per 12 hrs, as desired).

    #3) Two gel packets of The Edge,

    along with two packets of Scent of Eros. Gets a friendly, sexy reaction. I find that the hits are stronger when I

    double up... The scent does need time to settle though. (Applied not more often than every 5-6 hours).




    Thoughts, opinions, differing results?
    And a warm welcome to the forum HeavenlyLei, I am pleased

    also that you have received pleasing results from these terrific products from Mr Bruce here at love-scent.
    And

    certainly i look forward with anticipation for more postings from you in the future.
    Have fun and take care. Leisha


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    Im a man when ever i apply a

    copulins, women jump on me. its crazy, but my confident behavior plays a key role. Btw welcome to this

    forum
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    Quote Originally Posted by HeavenlyLei View Post

    #3) Two gel packets of The Edge, along with two packets of Scent of Eros. Gets a

    friendly, sexy reaction. I find that the hits are stronger when I double up... The scent does need time to settle

    though. (Applied not more often than every 5-6 hours).

    Thoughts, opinions, differing results?
    Welcome

    indeed Lei, and thanks for such a great report. I cross-posted your thread to the Womens' Forum, hope you don't

    mind. I think its valuable in both places.

    Your experience with LT seems to line up with a lot of experience

    here. I agree about the self-effects of heavy use, they're immediate and dangerous!

    I'm wondering about your

    TE/SoE dosage, esp 2 full packs of TE. That's a mighty dose. With this mix, and your other -None mix, have you

    ever had any negative reactions, or "ODs"? Of course a woman's chemistry will process everything differently.

    I'm curious about how a man reacts to a -None signature on a woman.

    I'm also wondering how you present

    yourself, do you make any conscious effort to be more attractive or just use your natural charm? This topic is a

    pretty big deal on the male side of the equation, as you know.

    Good going on the -Mone use and the

    report!

    Greg


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    Default Great report

    HeavenlyLei,
    You

    sound one hell of a foxy lady. With all that talk of cleavage, eyes dilating, 'pouncing' & ... underarms

    my head is in a spin & I'm off to calm down. I'm going to be covert myself from now on ...

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    Leisha- It’s a

    pleasure to meet you. That’s very kind of you
    Chicago- Hi, thanks! I keep hearing

    that. It’s very interesting. Where/how much do you normally apply?
    Chas- I'm just naturally scientific!

    How's the weather over there?

    idesign/Greg- Thank you for the welcome, and for the cross-post.



    You’re right about it being a big dose. I’d say it’s more likely that I’ll apply it when

    I’m walking around outside, or going to a bar (although I do avoid causing bar-aches!) … I definitely

    avoid the double-dose if I’m going to be sitting next to my target, or out a date. It would be way too much

    for them to breathe in constantly, versus the draw of attracting from among a crowd.

    ODs- When it comes

    to –None… I’ve not noticed an overdose particularly, except for one time when I kept applying it

    at a
    party… That time, it scared off my target a bit, even though he normally likes the scent quite

    well. Also, wearing –None, I
    have found that shy friends become a bit more quiet, socially.



    I haven’t otherwise OD’d, but that may be because I really try to watch application levels. I’ve

    really seen a positive reaction
    to the –None, a strong sexual draw. However, that may be a particular

    response from subset of men I like, in general (I don’t
    prefer jocks or violent guys, yet I like the

    aggressive type.. although, some of them are quiet).

    My presentation: Good hygiene, nice though not

    extremely expensive fashion. I go for frequent use of “you”/repetition and further inquiry into my

    date’s topics, etc… A throaty laugh seems to work quite well.

    I find mirroring to be useful, but

    it has to be subtle, so that it is picked up, but not actively considered (aka: avoiding the “mime” look

    is key).



    Something I’m curious about, though… My best friend, a female (22), has no notable

    allergies… yet sneezes quite frequently when I wear SoE or AE around her. Any clues to this? Her personality

    is that of a naturally flirty/dominant female, if it might play a role?

    My guess is that it might be a

    natual reaction to a dominant, variation presence of chemicals which she otherwise puts
    out... A chemically

    "alpha" woman sneezing at the competition, and maybe even at the synthesized nature of the 'mones...
    Any

    insight or similar experiences?
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    Curious about the sneezing of

    your friend. I'm not a scientist, but would lean toward a physiological response. Her receptors may be reacting,

    like you said, to a disagreeable synthetic which triggers her system. Especially true if you notice no behavioral

    response.

    I have no experience at all with couplins, but not for long.

    I see a connection between your

    "shy friends become more quiet" and "I don’t prefer jocks or violent guys, yet I like the aggressive type..

    although, some of them are quiet". Your self-described "subset" is accurate in my view. A quiet alpha male is

    someone we had a lot of discussion about in a thread here some months ago. I can easily see why a low-dose of -None

    tempered with SoE or other -Rol could be very attractive to this kind of man. You would present a friendly and

    attractive challenge, not competitive but intriguing, strong, and exciting. A woman to be reckoned with, not

    conquered, but mutually seduced. This is especially true if your demeanor was one of confident and intelligent

    humor, and a "throaty laugh" does wonders I can't describe.

    I'm enjoying your thought provoking posts.


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    Quote Originally Posted by idesign View Post
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    quiet alpha male is someone we had a lot of discussion about in a thread here some months ago.
    This is

    interesting- I'm going to try to find it

    Thanks for your kind reception, idesign.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chicago View Post
    Im a man

    when ever i apply a copulins, women jump on me. its crazy, but my confident behavior plays a key role. Btw welcome

    to this forum
    Chicago:

    I totally agree! any way you can generate "the bandwagon effect" will get you

    the hotties mostest and fastest!

    I've been doing it the "old fashioned way" by generating and developing "high

    social value" ie "club game". By my successfully "working" one set of hotties in a club/social setting and

    demonstrating my high social value by "Alpha Male" behavior; laughing, KINO, butt slapping, kissing, etc... with

    hottie bunch "A" gets you the automatic "chick sexworthy male seal of approval" with hottie bunches "B", "C", "D",

    "E" & "F".

    However, idea of combining "club game" with the right pheromone mix ought to be really

    interesting.

    As a "noob" phero-maniac I'm already getting excellent results with by basic mix of

    NPA+SOE+A1+LT+W.A.G.G.+ PHEROS + lot's of cologne and atomised....

    Are there

    any other Phero-gurus out there that might have an opinion which (LS) copulin product would do the

    trick?

    Bruce?

    I noticed that the much copulin discussions on this forum are several years old (2002-2005) and

    seem to have occured BEFORE alot of the current generation of products emerged. What is the current state of the LS

    line of copulin bearing products?

    pure copulin via EoW
    the cops in PCC
    that copulin +++ cocktail in MPM
    or the

    cops in PI/W
    or are there any cops in NPA/W

    Does Pi/W or NPA/W have enough female copulins to do the trick on

    women?

    Following the logic that I've gathered from the forums I want just enough of a hint of cops to create a

    "hint" or a "morning after aura" or "afterglow" effect of recent but not too recent sex with a woman..... so "LESS"

    is definitely "BEST". which of these products would have the thinnest dilution of of the right cops?

    Too much and

    you get the "Sloppy Seconds" effect....

    Thanks in advance,

    TG
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    TG, im a man but i use PI/W to

    get that bandwagon effect. PI/W creates the best bandwagon effect, because nol makes you so relaxed and the couplins

    are making women think you just had sex. So not only you smell like you had sex with females, but you look like you

    had sex with females. I apply 1 drop to my shirt with no cover scent
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    Quote Originally Posted by chicago View Post
    TG, im a

    man but i use PI/W to get that bandwagon effect. PI/W creates the best bandwagon effect, because nol makes you so

    relaxed and the couplins are making women think you just had sex. So not only you smell like you had sex with

    females, but you look like you had sex with females.
    Chicago:

    How many drops of PI/W do you use per

    application? Say I was using NPA/M I also have PI/M.... I need to get an idea how much cops a guy needs to trigger

    the "bandwagon effect". Obviously less cops than a woman needs to get a man turned on... but how much does the job

    for you?

    Say I'm using the following "mix":

    5 drps NPA+ 5 drps SOE+ V A1+5 drps

    LT
    +5 drps W.A.G.G.+ 20 drps PHEROS + 40 drps "Old Spice" cologne and atomised....

    2 sprays

    per application...

    How would I change it?

    Should I add 1 drp PI/W to such a mix or 5 drps PI/W to the

    mix?

    Thanks in advance...

    TG

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    1 drop on my shirt with no cover

    scent
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    Quote Originally Posted by chicago View Post
    1 drop

    on my shirt with no cover scent
    Cool!

    Thanks

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    Would it be ok for me to to

    post a message in the woman's forum asking if there's any lady out there who'd like to sell me a partially used

    (or even unused) bottle of PI/W?

    Thanks in advance...

    TG

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    You can ask it in Open

    Discussion. The women's forum was created for the women to post questions and discuss things. The only time we are

    allowed to post there is in response to a woman's post. Since it is not discussion of pheromones and results it

    does not really belong in this forum either. In the past we have always required the member to member buying,

    selling and otherwise transferring of product discussed in Open Discussion.
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