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    Default Don't Forget to Vote!

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    done so already, please go vote!
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    Did that as soon as the polls

    opened, 11 hours ago.

    All the rest of you, I hope you have done so as well, please!
    To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.

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    The best part is now all those

    annoying TV ads, phone calls, and door flyers WILL GO AWAY after today...

    Hmmm... an idea. If there was some way

    to tie in "early voting" to having all that go away immediately after you voted... We'd probably have 100% turnout

    the first day early voting was offered...

    But then again I always like to wait till the official day just in

    case I change my mind... if I've managed to make my mind up by then that is. The poll workers get annoyed at me

    with all that coin flipping I do in the voting booth...
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    This year I used a new policy.

    Anybody I got a robo-call from was voted against. And, as always, anything that increased taxes, debt or government

    power got voted against.
    To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.

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    We have 100% mail-in/drop-off

    balloting here in Oregon now. I always wait until the very last second, which is always a hoot as a crowd gathers

    around the drop-off box minutes before the shut it down.

    So, who was it said Obama was "unelectable" anyway?

    :-)
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    Default So, who was it said Obama was "unelectable" anyway?

    Joe the Dog Catcher could have beat McCain, lol
    There is a cure for electile dysfuntion!!!!

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    I'll say this about the Bush

    administration. Our county had a 73.64% voter turnout. I think people were annoyed...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rbt View Post
    I'll say this

    about the Bush administration. Our county had a 73.64% voter turnout. I think people were

    annoyed...
    That is pretty amazing. There were some counties in Oregon bragging better than 80%.

    Nationwide (64%) it was the best turnout since 1908! What is it normally? Around 50%?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce View Post

    So, who

    was it said Obama was "unelectable" anyway? :-)

    <blush>

    But you can't blame a guy for

    having his own brand of "Hope".


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    Quote Originally Posted by idesign View Post
    <blush>



    But you can't blame a guy for having his own brand of "Hope".
    But you have to consider that

    just about every election in this country comes down to a choice between the "lesser of the evils." To you, Obama

    may have seen "unelectable," but when paired against someone even more unelectable... (or, in this case, represents

    a party that faced a very major uphill battle).

    McCain IMO is indeed probably better qualified to be Presidient,

    but at least for me, the philosophy of the Republican party and it's attempts to dismantle the 1st Ammendment

    (especially concerning freedom from/of religion) forced me to go for a Democratic Party Executive branch this time

    around (primary concern is Supreme Court nominations). But I also supported our Republican Senators and

    Representatives as a check and balance.

    We've had good Presidents and disasterous Presidents, but so far we are

    still here...

    I remember comments that the world was about to end when JFK was elected... (We'll be ruled by

    the Pope!)

    Didn't happen.

    Could be worse.


    PS: We had something like 24 cadididates for President

    nationwide, including in some states a "none of the above" option. Not all candidates made it on all the state's

    ballots.

    Pity poor Bradford Lyttle of the US Pacifist Party who got a whopping 98 votes *nationwide.*



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    Quote Originally Posted by Rbt View Post
    But you have

    to consider that just about every election in this country comes down to a choice between the "lesser of the evils."

    To you, Obama may have seen "unelectable," but when paired against someone even more unelectable... (or, in this

    case, represents a party that faced a very major uphill battle).

    McCain IMO is indeed probably better qualified

    to be Presidient, but at least for me, the philosophy of the Republican party and it's attempts to dismantle the

    1st Ammendment (especially concerning freedom from/of religion) forced me to go for a Democratic Party Executive

    branch this time around (primary concern is Supreme Court nominations). But I also supported our Republican Senators

    and Representatives as a check and balance.

    We've had good Presidents and disasterous Presidents, but so far we

    are still here...

    I remember comments that the world was about to end when JFK was elected... (We'll be ruled

    by the Pope!)

    Didn't happen.

    Could be worse.
    Very good points Rbt, and I'll both agree and

    disagree.

    I suppose we can count on America's strength and resiliency to see us through a bad President, maybe

    even a very bad one.

    OTOH Obama is pretty questionable in terms of character, experience and ideology. We'll

    see how "moderate" his self-claims turn out to be. I'm very suspicious. One of my fears is that he'll actually

    DO some of the things he's said he'll do. His tax plan, for example, would be ruinous.




    Quote Originally Posted by Rbt View Post
    Pity poor Bradford Lyttle of the US Pacifist Party who got a whopping 98 votes *nationwide.*

    98 votes?!? Even Belgareth got more than that!


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    Quote Originally Posted by idesign View Post
    OTOH Obama is

    pretty questionable in terms of character, experience and ideology. We'll see how "moderate" his self-claims turn

    out to be. I'm very suspicious. One of my fears is that he'll actually DO some of the things he's said he'll do.

    His tax plan, for example, would be ruinous.
    I can't disagree there. I too feel he's not quite up to

    snuff. Fortunately no one man can do it alone, either in terms of running the country or ruining the country. It

    will be a combination of the rest of the staff in the Executive Branch, as well as getting through the Legislative

    Branch as well. Again, fortunately, there were enough Republican hold-ons and victories to keep a reign on things

    going through Congress. Plus even then programs need to be implimented. It could take years before anything actually

    happens. Witness how well things are going in Louisiana with the Katrina clean up.

    As usual, I just make sure I

    cover my ass as well as I can DESPITE Washington DC. So far so good. Just need to stay adaptable (and have places to

    hide).
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