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    Default interestings News from Lacroy concerning NPA and TE

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    I`ve contact LaCroy concerning the chemistry of NPA and TE and have get a surpriced answer!

    Both NPA and TE contains three secret pheromones each!

    I`ve contact LaCroy with following words:




    Quote Originally Posted by Question for LaCroy
    IŽm using "New pheromones additive for men" (NPA) and "The Edge for men" (TE)

    for about three years with good success!
    However I have the impression that NPA works better than TE and the most

    people in the love-scent-forum do say too that NPA is more effective than TE! But the moderators of love-scent do

    often repeat that NPA and TE contains definitively both androstenone and a secret pheromone which is the same in

    both! Only the concentration is in NPA 5times higher than in TE! And so the question: Do NPA and TE have the exact

    same chemistry?
    I have another question too: The homepage of love-scent says that the ratio between androstenone

    and the secret incredient is 50:50! Is this correct?
    Thank you in advance and sorry for my bad english (IŽm

    from Germany)
    The answer was:

    Quote Originally Posted by answer by Lacroy

    Thanks for your email and a pleasure to

    reply to you.


    You are correct in thinking that these 2 products have the same chemistry. And yes,

    Androstenone does comprise 50% of the formulation, the other 50% comprise 3 other “secret”

    pheromones. The reason we do not disclose this info is that there are just too many copy cats out there that would

    say they use the same formulation as us, and would not – that’s why we would prefer to keep this a

    secret!


    So, the NPA is more popular, as people can create their own strength (concentration) when mixed to

    cologne/ perfume.


    Kind Regards


    Daryn

    laCroy

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    Good info SM. Pendragon, did

    you see this?


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    Thats interesting! It's been

    rumored for awhile that there were secret ingredients in those. I wouldn't have guessed they were 50% of the mix

    though.

    I found a website recently that said IMPI contained a secret ingredient referred to as EST-11. The first

    thing to come to mind with that name was Estratetraenol.
    If I'm the rubber and your the glue..then I'd probably get some, and you'd just be sticky

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    Thank you for letting us know.

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    Pendragon..
    Unfortunately my

    recently ordered bottle or Impi was broken in the envelope
    but damn i liked the smell of it !!
    As i´m doing

    some testin on Est at the moment ..i must say it has nearly the same effect on me like Est mixed with my favourite

    perfume by Serge Lutens...

    Stuttgart-man .... you´re doing great..

    Pago

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    I think that the other 03 secret

    pheromones have something to do with the mood uplifting in women & they make them happy & willing to talk.

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    Daryn is the Man. You're

    getting it from the horses mouth. I met Daryn, and he seemed like a good guy. I'd tend to go with what he says,

    even though it's a little mysterious.

    That really helps explain why some people have been able to add extra

    -none after maxing out on Edge/NPA; and why other -none products work somewhat differently.

    That also makes me

    suspect A1 is probably one of the ingredients, just given all the chatter about it over the years.
    DrSmellThis (creator of P H E R O S)

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    would spend a lot of money

    to know what are the secret ingeredients of NPA and TE!

    A1 is possible! This would explain why the three

    ingredients keep in secret (A1 is patented)! But what could be the two remaining incredients? I believe Nol and Rone

    are unlikely! Both would buffer the heavy sexual effects!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy101 View Post
    I think

    that the other 03 secret pheromones have something to do with the mood uplifting in women & they make them happy &

    willing to talk.
    I'm sure its likely that the secret ingredients are not secret in the sense that

    they're unknown. They're just "secret" because we don't know what they are.
    If I'm the rubber and your the glue..then I'd probably get some, and you'd just be sticky

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    The other remaining confusion

    has to do with women's Edge/NPA, which supposedly has an extra pheromone compared to the men's formulation.

    Is

    that or is that not the case?

    So then, does that mean the men's formula has 4 pheromones total; and the women's

    five??
    DrSmellThis (creator of P H E R O S)

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    I would speculate that the

    womens' version tilted toward more -nol and the mens' toward -rone as secondary ingredients. Other

    "micro-ingredients" are up for grabs, and a more experienced Mone chemist than I could offer ideas.

    I would agree

    with Doc that A1 is probably there, in TE but not NPA. In addition to the dilution of TE there seems to be another,

    effectual difference.

    Which makes me wonder why I can use A7 with impunity (more -none/ml than NPA) and I

    cannot wear even a drop of NPA? The addition of -rone to A7 should theoretically not make that difference, and they

    claim no "secrets".

    Makes life interesting.


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    Quote Originally Posted by idesign View Post
    I

    would speculate that the womens' version tilted toward more -nol and the mens' toward -rone as secondary

    ingredients. Other "micro-ingredients" are up for grabs, and a more experienced Mone chemist than I could offer

    ideas.

    I would agree with Doc that A1 is probably there, in TE but not NPA. In addition to the dilution of TE

    there seems to be another, effectual difference.

    Which makes me wonder why I can use A7 with impunity (more

    -none/ml than NPA) and I cannot wear even a drop of NPA? The addition of -rone to A7 should theoretically not make

    that difference, and they claim no "secrets".

    Makes life interesting.
    I didn't know that you

    could not use NPA Greg !

    I suppose it just goes to show that all Androstenone prods are not

    created equal in their molecular construction ?

    I would not think that all the lab techs


    have the exact same shared universal formula for their aNONE.Therefore there is aNONE and

    aNONE and on it goes.


    I would presume that you also would not be

    using TE as well as NPA.


    Or then again maby Alpha 7 is as stated

    just aNONE with a splash of aRONE,,, ??


    And it just may be a part

    of the 50% secret ingredients in the NPA formulation that is not compatable with you.




    Whatever...
    So glad to see that you can use Alpha 7, So ur not missing out

    on so much heat,te he.
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    Yep, I can wear A7 with no

    problems, but always buffered and covered. To be fair to NPA I should give it another run, since my only trial was

    early on. I ODed so badly on one drop though, that I hate to go back there. I did use SoE/TE quite successfully

    though.

    Now that Pheros is ready I'll be placing an order for that and some LT and WAGG. What do

    you think of an NPA+WAGG+A1 mix? Maybe 1:2:2 or 1:3:1?


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    Quote Originally Posted by idesign View Post
    Yep,

    I can wear A7 with no problems, but always buffered and covered. To be fair to NPA I should give it another run,

    since my only trial was early on. I ODed so badly on one drop though, that I hate to go back there. I did use SoE/TE

    quite successfully though.

    Now that Pheros is ready I'll be placing an order for that and some LT

    and WAGG. What do you think of an NPA+WAGG+A1 mix? Maybe 1:2:2 or 1:3:1?
    Sounds awesome man,

    My first ever WAGG is in the mail at this moment,

    I have used NPA+SOE+IFM with sucess, I can

    remember that the reactions from NPA and SOE used to be amazing, especially at the supermarket with so many starry

    eyed women and girls following me around and crowding me at the magazine stand, ha ha yes NPA can be a real naughty

    boy at times.


    A man can still get into a mess of woman trouble with Alpha 7 and Scent of

    Eros as this one will draw them out of their comfort zones, and give them that familiar itch, Ive had some good

    consistant results with this combo amoungst the Asian girls, but usually the best after a couple of hours when the

    Androstenone drop has faded a little.


    Im really talking to the unconverted here now re

    above, as i know that you also have had your share of A7 + SOE + A1 hits as one of your favourite standard mixes,

    yeah a gentlemans stealth mix for sure.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by terry0400-40 View Post
    Sounds awesome man, My first ever WAGG is in the mail at this

    moment,

    I have used NPA+SOE+IFM with sucess, I can remember that the reactions from NPA and

    SOE used to be amazing, especially at the supermarket with so many starry eyed women and girls following me around

    and crowding me at the magazine stand, ha ha yes NPA can be a real naughty boy at times.


    Terry, what were you actually refering to in your successful mix, SOE/m scented in the roll-on bottle and NPA/m?



    And what has been your best application mix of SOE and NPA/m?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DssMaster View Post
    Terry, what were you actually refering to in your successful mix, SOE/m scented in the

    roll-on bottle and NPA/m?

    And what has been your best application mix of SOE and

    NPA/m?
    The successful mix contained unscented Rollon SOE/m Unscented +

    NPA/m


    My average best application amounts for NPA and SOE is about

    20" or 30" SOE and 1 or 2 drops NPA spread all around my neck.
    I AM. Out of my mind .... .... ....

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    Dank für die Info

    Stuttgart-Mann.
    I like that cover Idesign that might work for me. I also used TE/SOE combo for a bit, i thought

    it worked o.k... but wasn't spicy enough for me.. i'm a big aRone fan.. i think A7 and Soe combo might work well

    for me?

    Question? does any one of you, know the ratios in the WAGG-N... how much aNone.... is in this formula?


    cheers,
    Joe

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