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    Default Estratetraenol ---my first tests

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    Well i received my last order past week and this time i´d ordered a single bottle of EST to find out what it

    can do for me.
    As reported in former posts seems EST to be the conterpart to A1 and should also have effects on

    women... but subtle ones.

    I have the 10mg bottle from the kit supplies and it has no special smell for me.
    To

    start i thought about 1 drop ... not to overdose it .. if it´s possible...... and so i did .
    Went to the gym

    yesterday with a nice social mix of 20cm SOE on the right arm and one drop of EST on the left arm combined with half

    a Chikara gel pack and one drop A7 on my neck..
    Everything covered with a nice bergamotte perfume.

    I´d get

    mass respect from the other guys in the gym and it makes them more talkaktive.
    Women tended to train close to me

    but this has to mean nothing ..... because i´ve trained the belly muscels and the back and they are always

    there.

    So far so good ... when i went out at night for clubbing i applied another drop of EST (damn it smells

    good with perfume) and two drops PI behind my ears ....all spiced up with 3 drops of A1
    ( brings nothing for

    discos ) and 20 inch of SOE .
    My friends seemed more happy to see me than usual to see me .... but this can also be

    because of the SOE .... have to keep my eye on it...
    made out with a ex girlfriend a so was no more testing...



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    Quote Originally Posted by Pagodeiro View Post
    Well i received my last order past week and this time i´d ordered a single bottle of EST to

    find out what it can do for me.
    As reported in former posts seems EST to be the conterpart to A1 and should also

    have effects on women... but subtle ones.

    I have the 10mg bottle from the kit supplies and it has no special

    smell for me.
    To start i thought about 1 drop ... not to overdose it .. if it´s possible...... and so i did .


    Went to the gym yesterday with a nice social mix of 20cm SOE on the right arm and one drop of EST on the left arm

    combined with half a Chikara gel pack and one drop A7 on my neck..
    Everything covered with a nice bergamotte

    perfume.

    I´d get mass respect from the other guys in the gym and it makes them more talkaktive.
    Women tended

    to train close to me but this has to mean nothing ..... because i´ve trained the belly muscels and the back and they

    are always there.

    So far so good ... when i went out at night for clubbing i applied another drop of EST (damn

    it smells good with perfume) and two drops PI behind my ears ....all spiced up with 3 drops of A1
    ( brings nothing

    for discos ) and 20 inch of SOE .
    My friends seemed more happy to see me than usual to see me .... but this can

    also be because of the SOE .... have to keep my eye on it...
    made out with a ex girlfriend a so was no more

    testing...

    Pago
    Hi Pago,

    I´m so sorry, but I believe I can not keep the appointment on sunday

    with you (beer)! Tomorrow I´m invited for a party near Frankfurt and the driver is known to drinking much (I self do

    not know the way)! So I think we will drive back in late sunday when the driver is sober !

    But if you

    tell me your adrress I will send you my half-filled bottle of LT, because I have never seen any results by it! So

    you can report me if you see results and I know if the LT was only of a bad charge or LT generally do not work for

    me!

    Wish you much fun in Stuttgart on sunday!

    S-M

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    No problem Stuttgart-man
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    beer is stored well in the cellar...
    i had good results with LT in very high doses --10 sprays--- and only

    in the reported time window... 30 min..

    i did a test of est on wednesday but i want to figure out if it was

    because of my mix or a result of Est....

    will do so tomorrow at the gym...

    Pago

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    Well Est works great on women

    to attract men..... a female friend went out with me this weekend and i told her about all the peromone stuff ...

    she´s not the type of girl which could be called a men´s target..
    but she received unusual attention from several

    guys in the place we went ..

    Back to the tests on me...
    First .. now i´m sure .. it makes me sniff my forearm

    where i apply it usually and each coverscent i use smells unusually good...
    Est seems to minimize the effects of

    A1 when used together... don´t know how ... but i had the impression that A1 didn´t work the usual way when combined

    with Est.
    Maybe that´s why i thought first that A1 doesnt work for me in discos..
    Little people there in the gym

    yesterday but all men friendly to me .... greetings and so .... (1 drop Est on left arm) 1 gel pack C7
    i hate the

    usual "outalpha" behaviour.....

    Well i try to win over the guys to get the girls.... hehe... like mystery said

    ...sarge guys and you´ll get the girls..

    Pago

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pagodeiro View Post
    Est seems to minimize the effects of A1 when used together... don´t know how ... but i

    had the impression that A1 didn´t work the usual way when combined with Est.

    Pago
    Any month ago, I

    have ordered a scentless mone-product named Aurador! I was a little bit sad, because it has shown nearly no results!

    After I have read you post I believe I know why it has not worked! Aurador contains A1 AND Est!

    But I have had

    the impression that it makes the else for me only averaged working AE a little bit more effective when using

    together!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pagodeiro View Post
    Well Est works great on women to attract men..... a female friend went out with me this

    weekend and i told her about all the peromone stuff ... she´s not the type of girl which could be called a

    men´s target..
    but she received unusual attention from several guys in the place we went ..

    Back to the

    tests on me...
    First .. now i´m sure .. it makes me sniff my forearm where i apply it usually and each

    coverscent i use smells unusually good...
    Est seems to minimize the effects of A1 when used together... don´t

    know how ... but i had the impression that A1 didn´t work the usual way when combined with Est.
    Maybe

    that´s why i thought first that A1 doesnt work for me in discos..
    Little people there in the gym yesterday

    but all men friendly to me .... greetings and so .... (1 drop Est on left arm) 1 gel pack C7
    i hate the usual

    "outalpha" behaviour.....

    Well i try to win over the guys to get the girls.... hehe... like mystery said

    ...sarge guys and you´ll get the girls..

    Pago
    have you ever tried Pheromax/man? I ask because

    this contains A1 too! It has never worked for me as long I wear it with fragrance in clubs! But curiously since I

    use a full spray of my forearm of PM without a cover!!!, many women (not in clubs - women who already know me)

    behave other than else (at most positively for example more eye-contact and a shorter body-distance). Most

    people report that PM stinks awful and should be covered, but with me it works (not great but often good)!

    Do

    you notice the effect of A1 in Pheromax?

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    Have never tryed the

    Pheromax ...
    i thought it would be better to use other products ... because it´s said to have 3mg None and 2mg nol

    in....
    other like Soe or TE or PI ..... hmm
    the none could be the reason for the odor and the eye contact...


    shorter body distance .... sounds very good ....
    is this effect reproduceable with other products or is it

    special for this product... i mean pulls it the girls to you... hehe
    never heard about this "aurador" what is it

    like ?

    Pago

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    Tach Pago,



    Quote Originally Posted by Pagodeiro View Post
    Have never tryed the Pheromax ...
    i thought it would be better to use other products

    ... because it´s said to have 3mg None and 2mg nol in....
    other like Soe or TE or PI .....
    I

    would not buy Pheromax again because the hits are to few in relation to the relatively high price! I´ve bought

    it because it contains A1 and was pry what would be happend! But after the first apllications I was a little bit

    disappointed because the big hits were missing


    Quote Originally Posted by Pagodeiro View Post
    hmm
    the none could be the

    reason for the odor and the eye contact...
    shorter body distance .... sounds very good ....
    is this effect

    reproduceable with other products or is it special for this product... i mean pulls it the girls to you...

    hehe
    yes, for me all products with a high amount of None gives me this effect of a short body distance

    and increased eye-contact by women especially with NPA and TE! But other than with Pheromax (with which I have had

    only good results in daily situations) NPA and TE have gave me these short-distance-effects in clubs (until now, I

    have never applied NPA for social situations)!
    But when applying Pheromax most women (about 60&#37 behave like

    when I do not apply it and so it makes no different with these women!
    About 30% shown the bahave mentioned above

    (short distance, increased eye-contact....) and about 10% behave negative (more distance, shortspoken...)




    Quote Originally Posted by Pagodeiro View Post

    never heard about this "aurador" what is it like ?
    You will find it

    easily on german website, but (at least for me) it is not worth to buy it - it gave me nearly no results besides it

    makes the AE a little bit more effective! Aurador comes in three versions: Aurador male (contains much A1 and less

    Estra), Aurador business (contains A1 and Estra in the same amount) and Aurador women (contains less A1 and much

    Estra)



    Hope I could help you

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    Have forget...



    Quote Originally Posted by Pagodeiro View Post

    it´s said to have 3mg None and 2mg nol in....
    this was the old

    version! The new one contains A1, but do not ask me about the exact formula! The homepage of Pheromax is full with

    inconsistencies about the relation of this formula! When going to the Pheromax-homepage you can decide between the

    german and the english written side! The english sides states other amounts of the single pheromones (None, Nol, A1)

    than the german one!

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    Pheromax.. what should we

    think about it ???
    well... been in the Gym yesterday and did another test drive.
    this time i applied half an gel

    pack Chikara and 1/3 drop Est and two drops TE
    and 10 inches of Soe
    i think i´m going to find the sweet spot in

    using Est ( after serious overdosing by incident on thursday night )
    no reports about this .. i was happy

    when the effects wear off....
    it was little action in the Gym ... however the trainers were very friendly and

    talkactive
    Est seems to minimize the effects of None on stuffers who usually hate the presence of high none

    doses.. ( don´t know why but they seem to be more sensitive to None like normal folks )

    Pago

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