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    Quote Originally Posted by koolking1 View Post
    I think

    Obama made a huge mistake in picking Biden.

    Ron Paul '08
    Just from this pick you have an insight into

    how Obama does not have the capacity to think, and is beholden to his handlers. This is a committee pick, and the

    result is flat, as per usual for his campaign now that Puff the Magic Dragon fades into awful reality.


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    Quote Originally Posted by koolking1 View Post
    McCain's

    pick is brilliant...
    Yep, "The Maveric and the MILF"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtnjim View Post
    Yep, "The

    Maveric and the MILF"
    And she's an outdoors sporting type. I wonder if she has any sisters.....

    ?


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    After last night's speeches

    and the press results I am begining to believe she may have been the best choice to unseat Obama. I think we are

    going to see an interesting campaign with her involved.
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    From what I can gather,

    it's Palin: the small town gal versus the sophisticated city folk.
    There is a cure for electile dysfuntion!!!!

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    That's the way I see it too.

    My guess is their strategy is going to be something like "Hey! I'm just like you and understand where you are

    coming from. Do you want some self serving elitist or would you prefer your neighbor representing you?"
    To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by belgareth View Post
    That's

    the way I see it too. My guess is their strategy is going to be something like "Hey! I'm just like you and

    understand where you are coming from. Do you want some self serving elitist or would you prefer your neighbor

    representing you?"
    That's precisely the angle they're going to play up. And it's a very smart

    move. (Karl Rove wouldn't be behind any of this, now, would he?)
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    Personally, I want to see how she

    does when she isn't "preaching to the choir".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtnjim View Post
    Personally, I want to see how she does when she isn't "preaching to the choir".
    I'm

    sure you'll have your chance, as we all will.

    From the sound of things we are going to get a lot of hyperbole

    about how the GOP vice presidential nomination is more qualified to lead than the Dems presidential nominee.



    Should be an interesting election.
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    Quote Originally Posted by belgareth View Post
    ...Should

    be an interesting election.
    Sure should, and best of all, we get rid of King George.
    Freedom begins when you tell Mrs. Grundy to go fly a kite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtnjim View Post
    Personally,

    I want to see how she does when she isn't "preaching to the choir".
    That's the big question in my

    mind.

    I've followed Palin since reading about her Gov. race, and thought she might rise up in the world.

    Now

    she's gotten over a big hurdle by performing exceptionally well on a huge national stage. That was a real pressure

    speech last night, and she did just great.

    What's left is for her to perform well against those excrescences in

    media.

    Agree with all the above about how the race will be portrayed by the GOP. I also think Obama/Biden will

    not be able to counter this strategy effectively, they just don't have the tools. You can already see that Palin

    is a real threat to the Dems by their reaction to her nomination, and their willingness to make complete asses of

    themselves in the process.

    The race is suddenly interesting again.

    Edit: Holmes, I heard Rove on TV last

    night and he stated that he was surprised by Palin's pick, if that should mean anything.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtnjim View Post
    Sure

    should, and best of all, we get rid of King George.
    That's a very old topic but I still believe he

    was better than the alternatives. Al Gore especially scared the crap out of me but not quite as much as Obama does.

    Once again, we have to remember that under current election law, Bush was voted into office twice.

    It sure

    would be a nice change to have somebody to vote for rather than against. Too bad Ron Paul has never had much of a

    chance. But Palin might be a good choice in another 4-8 years, if she proves herself capable.
    To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by idesign View Post
    Edit:

    Holmes, I heard Rove on TV last night and he stated that he was surprised by Palin's pick, if that should mean

    anything.
    It could mean that he really was surprised by the pick. Or that he's a prodigious

    liar.

    On another note, I really liked Giuliani's speech last night. Thought he hit the nail quite squarely

    on the head as regards Obama. I'll bet the GOP are all dancing the funky chicken. They should be (if they have any

    rhythm whatsoever).
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    Quote Originally Posted by belgareth View Post
    That's

    a very old topic but I still believe he was better than the alternatives. Al Gore especially scared the crap out of

    me but not quite as much as Obama does. Once again, we have to remember that under current election law, Bush was

    voted into office twice.
    Yes, all correct in my view. But even as an initial Bush supporter I'll be

    glad to move past this administration. I think Bush has been both great and bad for the country. I do look forward

    to a change, not only in certain policies, but in general feeling among those who disagree.

    To be quite honest

    though, I think the onus is upon Dems to get over their hatred for Bush and move on should McCain be elected. I

    don't think I can stand another 4 (or more) years of moronic bumper stickers.


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    Quote Originally Posted by idesign View Post
    To be

    quite honest though, I think the onus is upon Dems to get over their hatred for Bush and move on should McCain be

    elected. I don't think I can stand another 4 (or more) years of moronic bumper stickers.
    Ah, but its good

    for comic relief. Here in Texas only the very young have those bumper stickers and they can't vote yet anyway.



    Blind hatred is always such a waste. I'm no Bush fan but can see both good and bad in his tenure, just like I did

    with Clinton.
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    "It could mean that he

    really was surprised by the pick. Or that he's a prodigious liar."

    It's the latter Holmes, it's the

    latter.
    There is a cure for electile dysfuntion!!!!

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    Gee, somebody in politics lied?

    Whoda thunk that? Name one that doesn't.
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    After listening to all of the

    speeches, I think the Republicans are going to be conducting an "E tan e epi tas" campaign. (Come home bearing your

    shield or on it.) It seems almost as if they want to turn the US into the United States of Sparta. Either that or

    they are going for the "pitty vote" i.e. Poor John got tortured, so he deserves to be President. I heard lots about

    war and "security" but very little about economics and jobs or the environment, except "drill, drill, drill".
    Freedom begins when you tell Mrs. Grundy to go fly a kite.
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    all I can say

    is:

    Paul/Ventura '08
    There is a cure for electile dysfuntion!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by koolking1 View Post
    Paul/Ventura '08

    Sounds reasonable to me.
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    don't be surprised!
    There is a cure for electile dysfuntion!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by koolking1 View Post
    don't be

    surprised!
    If it involves politics, very little supprises me.

    But then again, I'm an "old school"

    liberal. "Old school" liberals have been renamed to "Libertarian".
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    With all of the 9-11

    specials on this past week end, I started thinking. When will we have our election year terrorist alert? I'm

    thinking October 20 or so. Close enough to the election to remind people we "need a war hero as leader" and early

    enough to not be "connected" to the election.


    Standard operating procedure

    FUD.
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    Jim, I'm thinking it

    might not happen this year, one can only cry wolf just so many times, might backfire this time around unless

    something real does happen. I think the shift is being made from the War on Terror back again to the Russian

    menace, a bit harder this time since they are no longer "Godless Communists" but a Christian and nationalist

    society.
    There is a cure for electile dysfuntion!!!!

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    Ron Paul is scheduled on

    Wed at the Nat Press Club in DC to make what he's calling a major announcement. I'm both perplexed at what it

    could be and also excited about what could amount to "nothing much there".
    There is a cure for electile dysfuntion!!!!

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    Intersting, not much substance

    though.

    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.p...w&pageId=73214
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    I know the papers were

    served on the 4th to both Obama and the DNC, haven't heard much else since then.
    There is a cure for electile dysfuntion!!!!

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    It has some interesting

    ramifications. Were any one fo those charges proven true he would be out of the race forever. That would most likely

    put Hillary back in the race and she'd start off sucking hind tit with a lot of people. Of course her suppoerters

    would be estatic.
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    Obama is beginiing to seem a

    little worried...

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080909/...pr/obama_palin
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    Somehow I think if there was any

    real validity to Obama's ineligible status it would have played out fully by now. The FEC has certainly "vetted"

    his status, along with probably dozens of election attorneys on both sides.

    As for Palin, I think its very

    obvious that she's stirred up the Left into a dither not unlike a teenage tantrum. Calling names, making mountains

    of molehills, downright untruths floated willingly by a sold-out press. We can dismiss most of the bloggers out of

    hand; nobody could be more useless to a serious debate.

    "...petulant frenzy, petulant frenzy, petulant frenzy.

    I'm petulant, and I'm having a frenzy." -Frank Zappa

    If Obama et al have anything of any substance to say

    about Palin and her positions they're sure not saying it, rather, they're attacking the person. It's all pretty

    tacky.


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