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    Quote Originally Posted by belgareth View Post
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    than a daily vitamin I rarely take supplements. Have tried a few here and there, the only one I felt was worthwhile

    is a product called restore. It has an estrogen antagonist and a testosterone booster, both natural. The issue I

    have with DHEA is that it boosts your testosterone which can convert to estrogen, especially in us older guys. I

    already have enough trouble, and always have, with a stomach that wants to grow. Increased estrogen would make

    matters worse. Only a lot of exercise keeps that in check as it is.
    I found a great natural product that

    keeps estrogen in check (literally helps metabolize already existing estrogen). It's changed names over the years,

    but used to be called "indolplex." I think it might be called "ripped mass" now, or some such bodybuilding name.

    With these terms I am just speaking of the best brand (best quality and concentration for the best price) from my

    research.

    I searched for years for a natural product that would do this, and finally found this one.



    The chemical is indole-3-carbinol, also known as "DIM" in complex form.

    It's derived from broccoli. Only

    problem is it's not cheap.

    Even enhances natural pheromones, in my experience.

    Doesn't prevent E from

    forming, only helps metabolize any excess. So it doesn't mess with your hormones much, unlike most other

    approaches. But even one dose can help E-related symptoms (retaining water, breast tissue, etc, etc).
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    Interesting, Doc. Thanks, I'll

    give it a look.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrSmellThis View Post
    I found a

    great natural product that keeps estrogen in check (literally helps metabolize already existing estrogen). It's

    changed names over the years, but used to be called "indolplex." I think it might be called "ripped mass" now, or

    some such bodybuilding name. With these terms I am just speaking of the best brand (best quality and concentration

    for the best price) from my research.
    Would this be the product , Dr

    ?
    http://tinyurl.com/3ykzc9
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    http://tinyurl.com/3x5x2l

    early 40's white male or or

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    No. different product. Just

    google my hints to find it.
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    There's a good article about

    it here. I don't know how complete the information is but it is

    interesting.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indole-3-carbinol
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    Thanks for helping.
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    Your expertise appreciated Doc.

    Does this look safe?

    http://www.medwing.com/product/763948153367.html#

    Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MOBLEYC57 View Post
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    expertise appreciated Doc. Does this look safe?

    http://www.medwing.com/product/763948153367.html#



    Thanks!
    That is one brand of the stuff. I'm not familiar specifically with it. It looks like the good

    stuff at first glance, and I'm pretty sure it would work.. You have to look closely to figure bang for the buck,

    because DIM is figured differently from the raw indole-3 carbinol, or something like that. I'm forgetting. DIM or

    indolplex is the superior form, I think. A little reading would clarify it more precisely, but that's the idea..



    If you look up "ripped mass" that is the version I liked for quality and value, back when I understood it. The

    company is very high quality, and I think that was the original superior DIM version..
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